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#1 Posted by zezezemolskee9 (68 posts) -
Yeah i'd like another resi game like the past, i had a lot of respect for what code veronica did on the ps2. What people don't understand even if they could make a game like cvx, they can't. You can say "5 never happened in the resi series" as much as you want, but it did happen, and sadly capcom put themselves in a bad position. Horror and Action, 2 completly different genres, that Capcom has earned the attention of. You favor one side in gaming, the other will feel betrayed like we were in 5. And technology wise, they can't descend in technological advancements. Imo, until game developers understand how to use the technology they're given, we're not going to see horror anymore. However, i think resi 6 made a legit chance at going back to horror, it didn't reach that design, but it felt closer than 4 or 5 ever did. Maybe the resi series will come back, maybe the resi series will finish up it's cycle, with one final game. Imo that would be best. Finish up with one final bad guy. The only potential villian that hasn't been killed in the resi series yet, or I guess technically he was lol, and i don't mean wesker, he got **** up by rockets, lava, and dicks.
#2 Posted by Mr8ball (27 posts) -

dude they can make old school good. im playing the re2 remake in my head right now and it's freaking awesome

#3 Posted by zezezemolskee9 (68 posts) -
I'm trying to imagine how to mess up a re 2 remake, and it would be pretty challanging, but that might incourage them to mess it up. If they do destroy the remake, that'll most likely be made in the future, then pitchfork time?
#4 Posted by Seifer-fx (204 posts) -

Yeah i'd like another resi game like the past, i had a lot of respect for what code veronica did on the ps2. What people don't understand even if they could make a game like cvx, they can't. You can say "5 never happened in the resi series" as much as you want, but it did happen, and sadly capcom put themselves in a bad position. Horror and Action, 2 completly different genres, that Capcom has earned the attention of. You favor one side in gaming, the other will feel betrayed like we were in 5. And technology wise, they can't descend in technological advancements. Imo, until game developers understand how to use the technology they're given, we're not going to see horror anymore. However, i think resi 6 made a legit chance at going back to horror, it didn't reach that design, but it felt closer than 4 or 5 ever did. Maybe the resi series will come back, maybe the resi series will finish up it's cycle, with one final game. Imo that would be best. Finish up with one final bad guy. The only potential villian that hasn't been killed in the resi series yet, or I guess technically he was lol, and i don't mean wesker, he got **** up by rockets, lava, and dicks.zezezemolskee9

 

What a mess,

Where do I start? You say you can't mix action and horror? ehhhh ever hear of Aliens?, the critically acclaimed legendary movie which was great action, suspence and horror all rolled into one...or do you remember RE 4? Action + Horror. Of course it can be done, Resident 6 just does it very badly, resulting in unfortunitly the worst RE i've experienced.

The issue long time fans have about RE 5/6 is that they lack substance, tactics, survival elements and most importantly, fear. In my experience RE 5/6 are just action games. RE5 was actually a good action game which i enjoyed but not RE and RE6 is just a bad action game.

And that nonsense on developers not understanding how to use technology, where do you gleem that from? If you know anything about technical hardware you should know that this generation of consoles are woefully underpowered to todays standards, in technology terms they are ancient, my Galaxy S3 is almost as powerful as an original Xbox 360 and double the ram.

Developers get a huge amount out of the current generation of consoles, MGS4 pushed the PS3 to its absolute limit in terms of graphics, they have well and truly mastered developing software for these machines . And just to close off this point, better technology does not equal good games, if i were to name my top 10 games, i'd say at least 6 would be 2D. You can go back as far as Metroid for the NES in 1986 to see a perfect example of Horror and Action.

So yeah...your "arguments" don't make any sense but i do hope they go back to their roots for a final game and get Action and Horror together again for an epic swansong. I just want to see RE go away now, its a shadow of its former self.

#5 Posted by Crossel777 (5593 posts) -

Bullcrap nobody felt betrayed when they made RE revelations for the 3DS and now they're hinting at a RE2 remake if there is more fan support. 

#6 Posted by tjseda (10 posts) -

 

What a mess,

Where do I start? You say you can't mix action and horror? ehhhh ever hear of Aliens?, the critically acclaimed legendary movie which was great action, suspence and horror all rolled into one...or do you remember RE 4? Action + Horror. Of course it can be done, Resident 6 just does it very badly, resulting in unfortunitly the worst RE i've experienced.

The issue long time fans have about RE 5/6 is that they lack substance, tactics, survival elements and most importantly, fear. In my experience RE 5/6 are just action games. RE5 was actually a good action game which i enjoyed but not RE and RE6 is just a bad action game.

 

Seifer-fx

I couldn't agree more.

 

#7 Posted by Leejjohno (14082 posts) -

He is right. I can't even believe how much they dropped the ball with this one. Resident evil 4 was a flawless game; every design choice worked and the game constantly evolved. People may have disliked how RE4 wasn't as scary but not one aspect of RE6 works even half the time.

Only enemy worth talking about is basically a regenrator 2.0.

#8 Posted by wiredonnos (4 posts) -
I agree as well. In my opinion, as a resident evil lover I do not play these games for stellar controls and perfect movement and never have. Thus, I would have been able to overlook any mechanical issues the game set forth had they changed but one major part of the game. The C Virus. This was one of the biggest mistakes the series has ever made. I have been excited to see the return of the T-virus or a mix of any of the past viruses in a next gen Title format. The J'avo are the single worst enemies ever placed forth in a RE game. I don't play these games for a shootout... These poorly thought out enemies just make me sad about how poorly the producer of this game has captured the essence and dream of the original RE producer. It's like the ending of Mass effect 3 only the whole Game! It make me sad to see all of my favorite long time standing titles getting new producers who try and change the original dream into their own... I want my hunters and Tyrants back.
#9 Posted by inuyashagalo (63 posts) -

[QUOTE="zezezemolskee9"]Yeah i'd like another resi game like the past, i had a lot of respect for what code veronica did on the ps2. What people don't understand even if they could make a game like cvx, they can't. You can say "5 never happened in the resi series" as much as you want, but it did happen, and sadly capcom put themselves in a bad position. Horror and Action, 2 completly different genres, that Capcom has earned the attention of. You favor one side in gaming, the other will feel betrayed like we were in 5. And technology wise, they can't descend in technological advancements. Imo, until game developers understand how to use the technology they're given, we're not going to see horror anymore. However, i think resi 6 made a legit chance at going back to horror, it didn't reach that design, but it felt closer than 4 or 5 ever did. Maybe the resi series will come back, maybe the resi series will finish up it's cycle, with one final game. Imo that would be best. Finish up with one final bad guy. The only potential villian that hasn't been killed in the resi series yet, or I guess technically he was lol, and i don't mean wesker, he got **** up by rockets, lava, and dicks.Seifer-fx

 

What a mess,

Where do I start? You say you can't mix action and horror? ehhhh ever hear of Aliens?, the critically acclaimed legendary movie which was great action, suspence and horror all rolled into one...or do you remember RE 4? Action + Horror. Of course it can be done, Resident 6 just does it very badly, resulting in unfortunitly the worst RE i've experienced.

The issue long time fans have about RE 5/6 is that they lack substance, tactics, survival elements and most importantly, fear. In my experience RE 5/6 are just action games. RE5 was actually a good action game which i enjoyed but not RE and RE6 is just a bad action game.

And that nonsense on developers not understanding how to use technology, where do you gleem that from? If you know anything about technical hardware you should know that this generation of consoles are woefully underpowered to todays standards, in technology terms they are ancient, my Galaxy S3 is almost as powerful as an original Xbox 360 and double the ram.

Developers get a huge amount out of the current generation of consoles, MGS4 pushed the PS3 to its absolute limit in terms of graphics, they have well and truly mastered developing software for these machines . And just to close off this point, better technology does not equal good games, if i were to name my top 10 games, i'd say at least 6 would be 2D. You can go back as far as Metroid for the NES in 1986 to see a perfect example of Horror and Action.

So yeah...your "arguments" don't make any sense but i do hope they go back to their roots for a final game and get Action and Horror together again for an epic swansong. I just want to see RE go away now, its a shadow of its former self.

I guess what he wanted to say is that technology had great influence back then, and now it's hard or no practical to use it to make horror games, like those clunky controls and isometric camera. Doing a game with this nowadays would suck. However, this should not be an excuse. Many other elements of horror still could be used it. But, knowing that Capcom did this game to new players as well, they did bring back some elements of horror (but no survival...) I kinda agree with zezezemolskee9. People easily say that past formulas would work these days, but I think that's a difficult task. There are almost no games that are pure adventure or horror these days, but their elements can be found in other genres.
#10 Posted by RSM-HQ (783 posts) -

See it this way.. Critics bashed REmake for living in the past, and overall the sales for that game wasn't anything to brag about.

Capcom felt the series needed a change, and took it with Resident Evil 4! I love 4, but will admit it did change.. What you have today is actually what peole would rather do in a game and that's action, action, action. Still about overpowered mutants so I'm still happy, and frankly not as god awful as many claim (personally speaking)

#11 Posted by sweetSWA99ER (58 posts) -

See it this way.. Critics bashed REmake for living in the past, and overall the sales for that game wasn't anything to brag about.

Capcom felt the series needed a change, and took it with Resident Evil 4! I love 4, but will admit it did change.. What you have today is actually what peole would rather do in a game and that's action, action, action. Still about overpowered mutants so I'm still happy, and frankly not as god awful as many claim (personally speaking)

RSM-HQ

Well let's see it another way. Capcom have put themselves in a position concerning the RE series, that in my opinion; if they were to remake RE2 (or an original title) that was the best survival horror experience to date (perfectly modernized) without any reliance on action, or catering to anyone's power fantasies, then that game would sell just to make a point. Even survival horror fans who don't like it would line up to support the crap out of the game, and it would rain perfect review scores. I believe that if Capcom actually took a chance with a %100 survival horror experience that put great emphasis on player-strategy, exploration, and atmosphere that messed with our heads, it would sell big-time just to send a message to the rest of the industry that this genre is far from dead. But until Project Zwei gets here, we'll just have to get our survival horror fix from the PC... and I don't play PC. It's tragic