Posted May 18, 2007 3:58 am PT

illisium you are stuck! Even a cheap $500 hdtv will give you so much more. If you are playing a 360 on a standard tv you are waisting your time. Most people who are critical of the 360's graphics are playing on a standard tv. The difference is like night and day. I am sick of waiting for people to go HD. Mabey if you guys would get with the times, we could find some decent hd dvd's.

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Posted Mar 17, 2007 2:04 pm PT

I guess I'm stuck in the last generation, because I don't have an HDTV.

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Posted Mar 15, 2007 4:07 am PT

come on !! allready!!

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Posted Mar 10, 2007 10:11 am PT

Sony, 360 does native 1080p, and you forgot to mention that. Errr, let me rephrase that: You PURPOSELY didn't mention that.

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Posted Feb 9, 2007 2:20 pm PT

3D is dynamic, it can be rendered at any resolution. Scaling, happens after the image is rendered, so if a game renders at 720p, then scaled to 1080p. It's like finding an image on your computer and zooming it, nothing more. Though, rendering a game at 1080p, despite the texture resolutions and polygon detai, is a 1080p image. So if a game has the option to render at 1080p, then it is in fact 1080p, no more no less. While 360 can upscale any game to 1080p, that's totally different thing, all content on a 1080p tv has to be upscaled otherwise it would be smaller in the middle of the tv.

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Posted Feb 8, 2007 2:51 pm PT

@ theKSMM I hate Sony's emphasis on the idea of "full HD." It makes it sound as if you ain't really got high-definition unless you spent more than $3,000 on your television. So 720p is what...half HD?
Anywho, I know Sony really, really wants to sell us high-end Bravia televisions with 1080p support (real wide margins on those), but they need to let this topic go with respect to their consoles. **
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i got me a really nice westy for $1,200 on sale last october, and now you can get it for less than a grand. 1080p on multiple inputs and loving it. You dont need to overpay for 1080p tvs(cough*sony*cough*)

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Posted Feb 8, 2007 9:38 am PT

nazraq & ElvenArcher,
All XBOX 360 games are technically 1080p due to the scaler used in the 360 that can upconvert everything to 1080p. that doesn't make a game, such as Lost Planet 1080p. The reason this is important is that this will be the first 360 game designed from the ground up in a 1080p environment. that's what a true 1080p game is. The 360 can upconvert original XBOX games to 1080p but would you consider those games to truely be 1080p!?

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Posted Feb 8, 2007 7:38 am PT

Even the craptastic Sonic The Hedgehog 360 game has 1080p, who really cares?

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Posted Feb 8, 2007 7:09 am PT

Am I the only one that bought lost planet collectors edition? it says HDTV 720p/1080i/1080p i can't speak for the regular version, but I say that capcom has released the first 1080p 360 game. anybody wanna add to that?

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Posted Feb 8, 2007 4:56 am PT

cool~

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Posted Feb 7, 2007 10:37 pm PT

I hate Sony's emphasis on the idea of "full HD." It makes it sound as if you ain't really got high-definition unless you spent more than $3,000 on your television. So 720p is what...half HD?

Marketing ploy aside, Sony is in no position to talk about who has 1080p support and who doesn't. I'm not sure how many of their games (if any) support 1080p resolutions, but it's not enough for them to be claiming the high ground. They just got the PS2 games to stop looking like PSOne games, and I'm still mad that they don't include the stupid HD cable in the box.

Anywho, I know Sony really, really wants to sell us high-end Bravia televisions with 1080p support (real wide margins on those), but they need to let this topic go with respect to their consoles.

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Posted Feb 7, 2007 9:23 pm PT

The 360 uses a hardware scalar chip ("Ana" which is supposedly being replaced by "Hana" in the HDMI version) to handle resolution output which is why no matter what the native resolution of a game it can resample the image vertically and horizontally to fit the output signal. The PS3 does not have a hardware scalar. It can downsample to a lower resolution, but until recent software updates, it cannot upsample at least in hardware (I know there's rumor that the PS3 has a hardware scalar but Sony has "turned off" the functionality, which to me would make no sense.) I know from personal experience that the PS3 changes resolutions on the fly based on the game or the type of media (Blu-ray, DVD, game etc). I can pop in a DVD and it changes the resolution of the TV not just downsampling the image. I can pop in Resistance and it changes the resolution to 720p. If I pop in a Blu-ray movie it keeps the resolution at the default 1080p. The 360 keeps the output steady by using the hardware scalar. In EVERY case it's not whether the PS3 or 360 can do a certain resolution. Technically they both can whether over component, VGA or HDMI. The limitation in EVERY case is software whether it's through copyright provisions, software scalars (which in turn have to create memory buffers and use up a portion of system RAM) or by design (some games might choose a lower resolution to get a better frame rate). Given time Sony should be able to improve the software scalar to handle on the fly resampling without having to switch resolutions. They've already improved PS2 game output. While the 360 can technically handle analog 1080p output at this time it cannot do digital signal output. Of course that'll be moot once the HDMI/Hana version of the 360 is out. Bottom line? With the scalar technology very VERY few people will be able to tell the difference between the native resolution and the resampled resolution as to which is which. That is until UHD is standarized. Then we get to do it all over again.

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Posted Feb 7, 2007 9:12 pm PT

blaster710,
SDTV is sweeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeet!!! You don't have to deal with all of this other B.S.

Let's all give a shout out to SDTV!!!!The format that lasted 60 years and counting!

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Posted Feb 7, 2007 9:09 pm PT

HD seems over hyped to me and I've checked it out. At the moment I'm using my 1988 RF connection TV so when I can get a new console, then a game that's full HD, this news will effect me in no way.

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Posted Feb 7, 2007 8:46 pm PT

chamber303,
Not hardly. Sony has been flinging mud from the start. M$ has hardly flung as much as Sony has. I didn't like it in Nov. and I don't like it now. Sony is not doing well. They are failing at the moment. Who knows though. Maybe after they ACTUALLY start making good games things will turn around. Sony created all this misinformation by telling everybody that their system was the be all and end all of HD gaming when it wasn't true...OOOOH, OOOOH we're the only ones who've got 1080p and 1080p is the only true HD format. Look at us! Tell that to ABC and FOX and, for that matter all of the other HD TV channels. Well we finally start getting games and what is this! most have native 720p texture mapping! and on top of that the PS3 can't even upscale those games, unlike another game console that can upscale everything to 1080p! All this b.s. about how HDMI is the only true HD connection! They sure like to shove stuff down our throats don't they. It's all lies and people like you fall for it. Before the system was released all we saw were FMV footage that Sony tried to pass off as real gameplay. We see the games and they're nowhere close! Sony was way too ambitious. Since they couldn't truely deliver what they promised they made up for it by starting a smear campaign. We don't need this b.s. Sony. Tell us about the games instead. I don't want Sony to fail. I just want them to cut the bull. I'm tired of having to correct misinformation because of false rhetoric!

You say, "composite, s-video, component, vga, dvi, HDMI.
witch of these cables support a 1080p feed?"

Uhhhhhh... component,vga,dvi,HDMI. Take your pick. Why do you still insist that HDMI is the only cable that can do 1080p. It's not true and you just add to the rhetoric!

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Posted Feb 7, 2007 8:42 pm PT

componrnt, dvi, hdmi do. I am not sure for vga...

we sure need 50 gigs of space for 1080p, Sony!

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Posted Feb 7, 2007 8:14 pm PT

composite, s-video, component, vga, dvi, HDMI.
witch of these cables support a 1080p feed?

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Posted Feb 7, 2007 8:11 pm PT

cspiffo
go back to Nov 17 when there were problems of availability and that only 100000 units came to US and CAN.
How many people,magazines,talk shows,internet,newpapers were bashing SONY? and about the system not producing better quality than the 360?
but now that more and more people are relizing that the ps3 and SONY are once again coming up in a VERY good pace, you don't seem to like it.

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