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Manhunt 2 banned in UK

[UPDATE] Rockstar's upcoming game denied classification by the BBFC board due to its 'unremitting bleakness' and 'casual sadism;' Irish film board follows suit.
By Emma Boyes, GameSpot UK
Posted Jun 19, 2007 5:23 am PT

Rockstar Games' Manhunt 2 has achieved the dubious honour of being only one of two games to be banned in the UK. The highly anticipated upcoming title, which casts gamers in the role of doctor Daniel Lam--who offers himself as a guinea pig for a neurological weapons project--was due to go on sale in the country on the Wii, PlayStation Portable, and PlayStation 2 on July 13. However, both the PS2 and Wii versions have been refused a rating by the British Board of Film Classification, meaning they cannot be legally sold in the UK. The PSP version has not yet been submitted to the BBFC for a rating.

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The reasoning behind the decision is that, according to BBFC director David Cooke, "Manhunt 2 is distinguishable from recent high-end video games by its unremitting bleakness and callousness of tone in an overall game context which constantly encourages visceral killing with exceptionally little alleviation or distancing. There is sustained and cumulative casual sadism in the way in which these killings are committed, and encouraged, in the game."

Cooke says that the decision is not one that the board has taken lightly, and that where possible, it considers cuts or modifications to the game to remove offensive material. However, in the case of Manhunt 2 "this has not been possible."

The first game in the series, Manhunt, was given an 18 rating by the BBFC when it was released back in 2003. However, Cooke stated that, "Although the difference should not be exaggerated, the fact of the game's unrelenting focus on stalking and brutal slaying and the sheer lack of alternative pleasures on offer to the gamer, together with the different overall narrative context, contribute towards differentiating this submission from the original Manhunt game." He added that the first title was already "at the very top end" of what it considered acceptable for an 18 certificate, and that it came before the results of recent BBFC research were released.

The game has been refused a certificate on both the Wii and PlayStation 2 platforms, as to release it would "involve a range of unjustifiable harm risks, to both adults and minors." The board adds that even if the game was confined to an adult release, it would "still be unacceptable to the public."

The game is the first to be refused a classification since Carmageddon in 1997. The car combat game developed by SCi and published by Interplay allowed racers to destroy opponents and murder pedestrians. However, the decision to refuse classification of Carmageddon was overturned on appeal by the Video Appeals Committee.

UK games industry body ELSPA released a statement from director Paul Jackson, which said, "A decision from the BBFC such as this demonstrates that we have a games ratings system in the UK that is effective. It shows it works and works well. Any decision the BBFC takes, it takes on the basis of its remit to rate onscreen entertainment."

The BBFC statement concluded that the game's distributors would also have the right to appeal the decision. Rockstar Games had not returned calls to comment as of press time.

[UPDATE] The Irish Film Censor's Office has also announced that the game has been banned in the Republic of Ireland. In a statement, the board gave its reasoning as follows, "IFCO recognizes that in certain films, DVDs and video games, strong graphic violence may be a justifiable element within the overall context of the work. However, in the case of Manhunt 2, IFCO believes that there is no such context, and the level of gross, unrelenting and gratuitous violence is unacceptable."

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KOoI

this stuff happens in the real world every day, by trying to cover it up and hide it the big board of ratings people are trying to misinform the public, thats completely wrong. Once the kids who are playing this grow up it will be a hard step into reality for them because of this censorship.

arguable it messes with the player's psyche, but having played the 1st one i must same i'm the same after as before. Neither myself nor anyone whom i know to have played the game changed at all.

Posted Dec 17, 2007 3:05 pm PT
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JackBurton

As an avid life-long (adult) gamer, I could understand if this were banned from release for the Wii console, because (IMHO) Nintendo Consoles (and their exclusive properties/titles) from the NES to Wii are primarily aimed at younger audiences than the other platforms available in any given era. I found the first Manhunt to be an enjoyable, guilty pleasure, which i still occasional play from time to time. Would I let my children play it? Most likely not; and that's what the RSRB Ratings are for in the first place. Or so I thought.

Posted Aug 28, 2007 6:44 pm PT
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shanemaguire

My God!! Why would you ban the game just for that? Who cares if it is gorey. If it is that violent just put a warning on the game and for anyone who finds it offensive don't buy it.
It is probaly someones ma taking a psycho..... Man this is bulls**t

Posted Aug 2, 2007 9:55 am PT
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DoctorFu

So true Bloodhawk_DX. So true..

Posted Jul 2, 2007 3:49 pm PT
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davidl3631

This is absolute rubbish, the UK always moan about stupid things if its such a big issue about age ratings then why do the shops never ask for ID many times iv seen kids get games they shouldnt but the shops dont care as they get there money!
so because of this people who really want this game like myself purley for entainment have to miss out,
AND HERE WE ARE THINKING WE LIVE IN A FREE WORLD WHAT A LOAD OF S**T!

Posted Jun 28, 2007 3:22 am PT
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Bloodhawk_DX

...and here I was thinking my own country, the US, was a bunch of hypocrites. The rest of the world isn't far behind us.

Posted Jun 25, 2007 6:36 pm PT
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games100

wondo691 is a very clever man

Posted Jun 24, 2007 8:37 am PT
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mumblesh

I'm making the same point I made before (slightly rephrased) and which was pulled from the board. Which I think is perfectly valid and neither 'rascist' nor 'offensive', but obviously the auto censor kicked in.

If you wish to be subjected to gore and horror, and become a trained killer, who kills without question - join the army! I used the term 'potentially rascist' (stress the potentially) last time and this is simply due to the fact that there have been examples of abuse during war-time. And many offensive terms for nations e.g. G**k ', Japs' or 'Kraut' have been used in a rascist way. I in no way encourage or support rascist activity in any way, nor the killing of innocent people for that matter.

Posted Jun 24, 2007 5:36 am PT
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point_zero_xbl

...all of this happening as Hostel II releases worldwide. Yay for unfair censorship and condemnation against video games.

Posted Jun 23, 2007 2:21 pm PT
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cybolt

http://www.gopetition.co.uk/petitions/stop-the-bbfc-ban-on-manhunt-2.html

Random petition that appears to be picking up pace for all you fellow brits!

Posted Jun 22, 2007 11:36 am PT
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tintin05

My Daily Mail sense is tingling..

Posted Jun 22, 2007 11:25 am PT
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mjslfc

pc brigade win again easy to blame video games and movies for violence mankind has been a violent race since we first evolved any normal sane person will distinguish between real life and fantasy playing this game will not make you go out and kill people unless you are mentally unstable we had serial killers and murders well before video games and movies existed and its parents responabilty to stop their children from playing and seeing what they can and can not politicians use these games as scapegoats to pursue their own agendas

Posted Jun 22, 2007 8:16 am PT
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Mkherkzen

I don't get it. I thought that films are more realistic than games. You know - even GoW doesn't look THAT real. Even more, the graphics of the game are far from realistic due to the consoles' limited processing power (it's not on the X360 or PS3).
Why are such movies like 'Saw' and 'Hostel' available? They show REAL people KILLING or being KILLED in them. Sadism of the last 'Saw' made me feel sick. So, why didn't those guys denied classification of 'Saw'? Why don't they ban themselves instead of blocking titles that can be easily blocked by the parental control function? I just don't get it

Posted Jun 21, 2007 11:13 pm PT
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AlekzW

So what are the ratings for? If they rate a game too violent that's OK, but to ban it from sale? That's ridiculous, then just ban all violent games and destroy all rating systems.

Posted Jun 21, 2007 9:20 pm PT
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ChaosSpaceTroop

Seriously, this sucks. I really wanted to play Manhunt 2. It looked fun. Not that I'd get it for the Wii (particularly an easy choice, given my lack of Wii-ness), I could understand the banning of the Wii version. That I can understand, but on the PSP or PS2? If Manhunt was such a brutal game why didn't they slap that with an AO or a ban? Hell, the story of that one is more controversial than Manhunt 2. Let's compare them, shall we? Manhunt: guy who has to brutally murder people for the enjoyent of perverted and twisted individuals. Versus Manhunt 2, which just has a doctor turned mental patient whose trying to recover his identity. Jeez, people these days are too damn sensitive.

Posted Jun 21, 2007 6:43 pm PT
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Proman84

How about we ban WAR instead? And ban weapons while we are at it too?

A game is just a game.

Posted Jun 21, 2007 2:06 pm PT
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wondo691

Ok, how to put this bluntly without pissing people off about what to stand for and what not to stand for?

Ok Manhunt in fact is a game, in that your role as the character is to stealth, and "murder" NPC's (non playable characters) for those of you who dont know. Now everyone is on the fritz about how this game can make kids kill and people kill and yada yada yada.

Let me ask you a question "you think they should have taken the rogue out of World of Warcraft? i mean his sole role in that game is to stealth and poision. hmmm kinda "lethal" way of disposing of an npc. Or how bout the animal right orginization comming to sue blizzard because they kill bears and tigers, that will teach our kids its ok to beat the family dog with a stick.

We as people need to start to realize (in America anyway, im not sure how things are run in the UK) that they are games. movies/stories u play. This game is in no way shape or form( at least the way i see it) different from FEAR, or HALO, or HALF LIFE 2. If u want to live in a life with no violence, rape, crime, etc....go to the moon. start a new planet, because in reality your not going to stop people from buying this game just like your not gonna stop someone from shooting up a bank.

I grew up with doom and RE games....these came out when i was a teen, i didnt go around killin people that had skin disorders! Or grab the shotgun, and destroy the universe, because i knew from my parents telling me when i was a kid THAT ITS A GAME....A BUNCH OF SPRITES ON A SCREEN THAT DO WHAT I TELL THEM TO.

now in all seriousness....would i let my 4 year old play it...no....because if he/she sees that. At that age they are impressionable, so i agree, but if little kids are gonna play this then the parents should be punished....not the gamers (who are of age that can legaly buy it) and the creators. Now if someone who is 18+ plays this and decides to go on a mass murder frenzy. Go ahead. Blame ROCKSTAR...that u in fact were a dumass and cant pick out reality from fantasy. Its people like that (who cant take the ass whipping when they need one and have to blame "media entertainment") who will in fact be the down fall of American society. not because that the mass population needs the censorship, but because ONE person screws up and blames someone or something else and doesnt have the BA#%& to accept the fact that he screwed up

now i understand alot of people probably didnt read all of this or there flippin their wigs because it pissed them of (HOW CAN HE STAND UP FOR THOSE **** AT ROCKSTAR) im not standing up for them per-say.....im just trying to elaborate on a very stingy subject....and all i hoped to accomplish from this comment / blog is to show u "both sides of the story.

Posted Jun 21, 2007 11:36 am PT
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dmdavenport

Rockstar asked for this and I hope the scumbags get the message. Making a game (that they know will be played by kids) that is nothing but an excuse to act out violent fantasies will cost you. Seriously, are they trying to make Jack Thompson a national hero?

Posted Jun 21, 2007 11:05 am PT
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bonafidetk

For anyone that is intrested. NO ONE will be playing Manhunt 2 , not just Brits. Sony, Nintendo and MS do not allow AO games on their consoles (AO is the rating this game gets). It is effectively banned on all consoles. The only platform that Manhunt 2 could come out on in its current state is PC.

Posted Jun 21, 2007 9:23 am PT
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