@ariabed said:@Riverwolf007 said: @battlefront23 said: @Chrypt22: @Riverwolf007:
I think we need to look to the past though to understand the present. On a systemic whole, these communities, eerily overnight in a lot of cases, had major influential figures disappear. In that vacuum of a lack of leadership and direction, the crime element dominated.
I will never excuse criminal activity. That is not what my post was meant to convey. All I intended to convey was that having such harsh comments about an ENTIRE community based on the actions of a few of the members who got press coverage is hardly fair. Cynically denouncing the actions of a few and casting blame on the whole is conducive to nothing but a continued alienation and separation from the marginalized group. We may disagree on the level of marginalization, but at the end of the day, a lot of what you said yourself was culture HIGHLY influenced by a then (and still) primarily white government.
lol. what a shocker. the standard answer of black mob violence and crime is white peoples fault.
i'm sorry but that is the line i bought for a very long time and it no longer makes any sense.
look man i'm done. there is nothing left in the tank. i'm not having a moment of silence for an asshole like mike brown who was such a great citizen that his final act in life was to strangle a 100 pound immigrant then pick a fight with a cop.
blm is a joke because it asks me to give a shit about a few people while ignoring thousands of others that have no political benefit to the movement.
dillian harris was the baby run over during the drive by on capo a few weeks ago.
where was his candlelight vigil? where was the community outrage? what did black leaders have to say about it? why didn't the cvs get burned down for this kid?
the collective answer to that is nothing. blm organizers had dick to say about it because that particular black life has zero value to them. just like the thousands of other black lives that do not forward their cause.
dillian harris was a black life that for once you could actually say he didn't do anything and was a good boy and it be the truth and not one person said it.
his mother initially declined to be interviewed by the news because she feared retaliation from the community if she said anything about his murder. lets think about that for a second.
a mother... would not talk... about her slain child.... out of fear of retaliation from the community.
i'm sorry that the bleeding heart liberal that i used to be is gone but make no mistake about it, he is gone and all that is left is the realist that can no longer be silent for fear of the names he will be called or the people he might offend.
at the point we find ourselves not speaking about the massive hypocrisy of blm is the most harmful and racist thing i can think of.
Ok you have a good point, still no reason to label a whole community because of some bad apples, and also the mother in question was scared of community back lash can you blame her, who would help her after she tells her story, the criminal element is far reaching which goes back to battlefront23s' point, you cannot just dismiss that like past actions do not affect the future, theres is a phrase for that its called "white denial". the failure to consider and empathize with another races struggle.
all i have ever had up until a very short while ago is empathy and sympathy.
it has gotten none of us anywhere.
what did 50 years to civil rights advocacy get bernie sanders? being torpedoed at his presidential run.
what did wal-mart refusing to carry the confederarte flag in their stores get them? mob attacks a couple of days later.
it seems like almost every time someone goes out of their way they get fucked over for the effort.
as shitty as it is to say the time for empathy and sympathy is just about over.
it's time for some unflinching honesty and tough love.
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