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#3  Edited By SomeShinobi
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Who are your choices for the worst presidents of the United states and why?

As with my previous list, this is going to be a VERY controversial list. This will be from the perspective of an lolbertarian. Meaning it'll contain many of the most beloved and popular presidents of U.S. history. I'll get a lot of flak for sharing my top 10 least favorite presidents. Here goes nothing.

1. Woodrow Wilson:

  • Created the Federal Reserve.
  • Entered World War I and brutally occupied numerous countries.
  • Racially segregated the military and endorsed the KKK.
  • Incarcerated protesters with the "Espionage Act of 1917".
  • Instituted prohibition.
  • Supported eugenics.
  • Instituted the federal income tax.
  • Nationalized the economy.
  • Imposed draft conscription.
  • Authorized "Palmer Raids".

2. Abraham Lincoln:

  • Intentionally provoked the Civil War.
  • Unconstitutionally suspended habeas corpus.
  • Ordered mass execution against the Sioux Indians.
  • Signed the "National Bank Act".
  • Censored the press and imprisoned political protesters without trial.
  • Introduced the "Greenback" currency.
  • Introduced the U.S.'s first income tax.
  • Instituted a military draft.
  • Ordered martial law and restricted firearms via "Proclamation 113".
  • Deported freed black slaves to Liberia and Haiti.

3. Franklin D. Roosevelt:

  • Allowed the Pearl Harbor attack to drag the U.S. into World War II.
  • Authorized the firebombing of Dresden, Hamburg, and Tokyo.
  • Forcefully moved Japanese, Italian, and German citizens into internment camps.
  • Served four terms.
  • Imposed gun control via "National Firearms Act of 1934".
  • Signed the "National Industrial Recovery Act".
  • Enacted laws without the approval of the Supreme Court.
  • Suspended the "Gold Standard" and seized gold from citizens.
  • Authorized the "Manhattan Project".
  • Raised numerous taxes.

4. Lyndon B. Johnson:

  • Lied about the "Gulf of Tonkin Incident" to justify an undeclared war against Vietnam.
  • Covered up Israel's deliberate attack on the USS Liberty.
  • Caused massive deficits with the "Great Society" program.
  • Passed the "Gun Control Act of 1968".
  • Signed the egalitarian "Civil Rights Act of 1964".

5. George W. Bush:

  • Began the illegal Iraq war.
  • Signed the "Patriot Act".
  • Enacted "No Child Left Behind".
  • Signed the 2008 bailout.
  • Created the Guantanamo Bay detention camp.

6. Barrack Obama:

  • Killed four U.S. citizens without due process.
  • Expanded Bush's drone strike program.
  • Invaded Libya without Congressional approval.
  • Passed the "NDAA".
  • Expanded domestic government surveillance via "PRISM".

7. Harry S. Truman:

  • Lead an unnecessary war in Korea without congressional approval.
  • Authorized the atomic bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
  • Nationalized the steel industry to fund war efforts.
  • Took control of railroads by threatening to draft railroad workers.
  • Created the CIA and NATO.

8. Ronald Reagan:

  • Responsible for the "Iran-Contra Affair".
  • Invaded Grenada and funded the Mujaheddin.
  • Tripled the national debt.
  • Expanded the "War on Drugs".
  • Raised taxes to increase Social Security.

9. William McKinley:

  • Started the contrived "Spanish-American War".
  • Annexed Hawaii.
  • Raised taxes to fund imperialist policies.
  • Signed the "Dingley Act".
  • Intervened in the "Boxer Rebellion".

10. Richard Nixon:

  • Permanently ended the "Gold Standard".
  • Created the EPA.
  • Created the DEA.
  • Authorized the bombing of Cambodia and Laos.
  • Prolonged the "Vietnam War".

Dishonorable Mentions

- Dwight D. Eisenhower:

  • Authorized the "1953 Iranian coup d'etat".
  • Authorized the "Guatemelan Coup of 1954".
  • Laid the groundwork for the "Vietnam War".
  • Deported 80,000 Mexicans.
  • Authorized the CIA's assassination attempt at Fidel Castro.

- William J. Clinton:

  • Bombed a pharmaceutical factory in Sudan.
  • Passed the pro-gun control "Brady Bill".
  • Authorized NATO intervention in Bosnia and Kosovo.
  • Authorized the Waco siege.
  • Authorized Iraqi sanctions that killed half a million Kurdish children.

- Theodore Roosevelt:

  • Expanded the power of the Executive Branch.
  • Imperialistic foreign-policy.
  • Advocated eugenics.
  • Planted the seeds for the FDA.
  • Used the army to stop the "Coal Strike of 1902".

- George H.W. Bush:

  • Started the "Gulf War".
  • Broke campaign promise by raising taxes
  • Increased military spending and welfare.
  • Authorized "Operation Restore Hope" in Somalia.
  • Invaded Panama.

- John Adams:

  • Initiated the "Quasi-War".
  • Signed the "Alien and Sedition Acts".
  • Raised taxes.
  • Appointed John Marshall to the Supreme Court.
  • Passed the "Midnight Judges Act".

- Herbert Hoover:

  • Started "Mexican Repatriation".
  • Controlled prices.
  • Created the Dept. of Education.
  • Signed the "Smoot-Hawley Tariff Act".
  • Signed the "Norris La Guardia Act".
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#4  Edited By SomeShinobi
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@bforrester420 said:

@someshinobi: Are you going to answer my question or just post videos of other people's thoughts that are irrelevant?

a. Do you have a college education; notably in economics, finance, accounting, or similar field where exposure to macroeconomics is required?

b. Do you understand simple economic principles like the multiplier effect, equilibrium price, the difference between fiscal and monetary policy, etc?

I'm not going to waste my time arguing with a zealot that reads a couple of books about topics on which they have no foundational understanding.

Yes, how dare I read books and think for myself. Because reading is un-Murican.

And yes, I've studied Keynisian economics during my Liberal days. And no, I never intended colleges nor do I ever intend to. Various successful entrepreneurs, business men, artists, innovators, and overall high-minded individuals succeeded in life without college degrees. Even Stanley Kubrick, Mark Twain, and Frank Zappa both opposed compulsory education and believed they stifled creativity.

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@bforrester420 said:

@someshinobi said:

@bforrester420 said:

@drekula2 said:

OP's list is obviously informed by a Libertarian perspective ; not to say anyone's choices are free of bias either though.

You either agree with laizess-faire and dismantling a national bank or you don't, I guess.

The only people that want a return to lassiez faire economics are people who are ignorant of history or idiots that want a return of the robber barons...

Oh, boy. People are still believing in the "Robber Barons" myth. [MARXISM INTENSIFIES]

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Am I correct in assuming since you consider universities "Marxist Indoctrination facilities", you don't posses a college education? Good golly gosh! Some dude wrote a book about it, so it must be true!

1/10 See Penn Jillette after class.

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#6 SomeShinobi
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@bforrester420 said:

@drekula2 said:

OP's list is obviously informed by a Libertarian perspective ; not to say anyone's choices are free of bias either though.

You either agree with laizess-faire and dismantling a national bank or you don't, I guess.

The only people that want a return to lassiez faire economics are people who are ignorant of history or idiots that want a return of the robber barons...

Oh, boy. People are still believing in the "Robber Barons" myth. [MARXISM INTENSIFIES]

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@lensflare15 said:

Hell if I know, I'm not very knowledgeable on the various presidents' accomplishments and policy failures (at least not enough to happily champion the merits of a particular president). However, despite some of the criticisms of Ulyssus S Grant's presidency (I've heard him referred to as one of the worst U.S. presidents of all time and that his cabinet was rampant with corruption), he seemed to have a lot of good intentions and ideas (I know that doesn't count for shit performance wise) as well as a very similar personality to myself, so I like the guy.

Grant and Harding receive more flak than they deserve. They were ran under corrupt administrations and were friends with some nasty federal employees. But they weren't corrupt themselves, as they had little to no affiliation with the scandals that were occurring under their desks. Ulysses S. Grant was total softy, he was the badass with a heart of gold. Grant was squeamish around blood, he provided amnesty for those he fought against, was a happy drunk, sobbed profusely during his daughter's wedding, and he was very loving family man.

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#8  Edited By SomeShinobi
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@-Sun_Tzu- said:

@someshinobi said:

@-Sun_Tzu- said:

@someshinobi said:

Like I said, til' next time. ;)

For not, let me just celebrate "muh free-market", "muh Ron Paul", and smoking weed everyday.

Well I can at least agree with one of those things.

The only good libertarian is a stoned libertarian.

>implying being stoned is a bad thing

lolwut

I would never imply such a thing

@Master_Live said:

@wiipants said:

Martin Van Buren. I used to run with the Van Buren boys and I'm a VB boy 4 life.

If that's true show us the sign.

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#9  Edited By SomeShinobi
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@-Sun_Tzu- said:

@someshinobi said:

Like I said, til' next time. ;)

For not, let me just celebrate "muh free-market", "muh Ron Paul", and smoking weed everyday.

Well I can at least agree with one of those things.

The only good libertarian is a stoned libertarian.

>implying being stoned is a bad thing

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#10  Edited By SomeShinobi
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@-Sun_Tzu- said:

@someshinobi said:

You still seem to ignore the fact that Lincoln caused a false flag to provoke the war.

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Besides, we should continue this argument later when I create the "Who are your least favorite U.S. Presidents" list. I foolishly went off topic by sharing my views on Lincoln, when I should have saved it for my next thread. We should stay on topic about our favorite presidents. Just share your list of favorite U.S. presidents. And no, I won't argue against your for having Lincoln as one of them.

Well then, where's the fun in that?

And you can't honestly describe fort sumter as a false flag. To put it bluntly the CSA started the war. Did Lincoln egg on the initial attack in some respect? Perhaps, but shame on the CSA for falling for it. Lincoln didn't force Jefferson Davis to give the order to attack, don't blame Abe for the tactical ineptitude of his Southern counterparts.

Like I said, til' next time. ;)

For not, let me just celebrate "muh free-market", "muh Ron Paul", and smoking weed everyday.

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