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#1 scatteh316
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@Pedro said:
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Looks like they improved the ray tracing too with objects that were previously missing in reflections now being reflected.

So, they weren't using ray tracing in the first showing but people were WOWED by its ray tracing? 😂

Of course it was using RT in the first showing.........it was just missing geometry in the BVH 🤦‍♂️

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Looks like they improved the ray tracing too with objects that were previously missing in reflections now being reflected.

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@i_p_daily said:
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Can you link me the release dates for all those games so i can check if they're all coming in the first year.Also only a foolish fanbase would call Nintendo's games kiddy and turn around and buy a kids game in R & C, SM is dlc, you know, i know it and Sony knows it.

HZD 2 is not coming out in the first 12 months lol.

And you think that GT7 will be a fully fleshed out game when they last game took 4yrs and was a bre bones racer.

Only an idiot would argue against those facts.

All games have been confirmed by developers to be coming within the first 12 months of PS5's release, links have been provided to you on the first page I believe.

No where have I mentioned or even talked about Nintendo's games so that point is irrelevant and retarded.

GT on PS5 is looking like a simple port of a PS4 game with some enhancements, nothing that requires years and years of work.

Phil Spencer has been saying the games are coming now for the last 4 years, you can make a AAA game in 4 years so we should be seeing them by now but instead there's nothing but tumbleweed coming from Microsoft's 1st party studio's.

And no where have you provided facts, only the retarded opinion of a butt hurt fan boy who can not cope with the FACT that once again Microsoft have been made to be Sony's bitch.

No release dates have been confirmed other than this year hurr durr PR speak.

I have provided facts, not my fault you have trouble acknowledging them.

Cows live off of alternative facts, i guess you can't help the ignorant.

Once again you have provided your opinion and are trying to pass it off as a fact.

You have not provided any evidence, at all, that these games will not be released within the 1st year to combat the evidence that says they will.

If you like I can provided you with the Xbox customer services email so you can direct your anger of having no games to them?

Not one of the games has a release date, just a release window, and we know games get delayed, read the links, not a single release date figure just vague PR speak.

Would you like me to get you an invite to Sony HQ (me and Dana Carvey are tight) so you can see the triangles in person?

You're still passing off your opinion and straw grasping as fact.

Unless you have hard evidence to suggest they'll get delayed or not release in the 1st year then you have no point or argument.

Poor little lemming, can't catch a break.

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#4  Edited By scatteh316
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@i_p_daily said:
@scatteh316 said:
@i_p_daily said:
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Only an idiot would try to argue that a Gran Turismo, Spiderman, Ratchet & Clank, Demon Souls and a new Horizon game all within the first 12 months is bad.

Can you link me the release dates for all those games so i can check if they're all coming in the first year.Also only a foolish fanbase would call Nintendo's games kiddy and turn around and buy a kids game in R & C, SM is dlc, you know, i know it and Sony knows it.

HZD 2 is not coming out in the first 12 months lol.

And you think that GT7 will be a fully fleshed out game when they last game took 4yrs and was a bre bones racer.

Only an idiot would argue against those facts.

All games have been confirmed by developers to be coming within the first 12 months of PS5's release, links have been provided to you on the first page I believe.

No where have I mentioned or even talked about Nintendo's games so that point is irrelevant and retarded.

GT on PS5 is looking like a simple port of a PS4 game with some enhancements, nothing that requires years and years of work.

Phil Spencer has been saying the games are coming now for the last 4 years, you can make a AAA game in 4 years so we should be seeing them by now but instead there's nothing but tumbleweed coming from Microsoft's 1st party studio's.

And no where have you provided facts, only the retarded opinion of a butt hurt fan boy who can not cope with the FACT that once again Microsoft have been made to be Sony's bitch.

No release dates have been confirmed other than this year hurr durr PR speak.

I have provided facts, not my fault you have trouble acknowledging them.

Cows live off of alternative facts, i guess you can't help the ignorant.

Once again you have provided your opinion and are trying to pass it off as a fact.

You have not provided any evidence, at all, that these games will not be released within the 1st year to combat the evidence that says they will.

If you like I can provide you with the Xbox customer services email so you can direct your anger of having no games to them?

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@i_p_daily said:
@scatteh316 said:

Only an idiot would try to argue that a Gran Turismo, Spiderman, Ratchet & Clank, Demon Souls and a new Horizon game all within the first 12 months is bad.

Can you link me the release dates for all those games so i can check if they're all coming in the first year.Also only a foolish fanbase would call Nintendo's games kiddy and turn around and buy a kids game in R & C, SM is dlc, you know, i know it and Sony knows it.

HZD 2 is not coming out in the first 12 months lol.

And you think that GT7 will be a fully fleshed out game when they last game took 4yrs and was a bre bones racer.

Only an idiot would argue against those facts.

All games have been confirmed by developers to be coming within the first 12 months of PS5's release, links have been provided to you on the first page I believe.

No where have I mentioned or even talked about Nintendo's games so that point is irrelevant and retarded.

GT on PS5 is looking like a simple port of a PS4 game with some enhancements, nothing that requires years and years of work.

Phil Spencer has been saying the games are coming now for the last 4 years, you can make a AAA game in 4 years so we should be seeing them by now but instead there's nothing but tumbleweed coming from Microsoft's 1st party studio's.

And no where have you provided facts, only the retarded opinion of a butt hurt fan boy who can not cope with the FACT that once again Microsoft have been made to be Sony's bitch.

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#6  Edited By scatteh316
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Only an idiot would try to argue that a Gran Turismo, Spiderman, Ratchet & Clank, Demon Souls and a new Horizon game all within the first 12 months is bad.

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Seeing as you asked:

No GPU scales 100% perfectly, so the 18% advantage Series-X has theoretically will be lucky to get to 10% in the real world.

The CPU is only 100mhz faster with SMT enabled and 300mhz faster with it disabled, but with SMT adding 30% (using PC test results) developers would be stupid to not use it

We still don't know how much memory and CPU performance PS5's OS uses, Series-X looses a whole CPU core to the OS so if the rumours of PS5 being able to dump it's whole OS in to the stupid fast SSD when switching to a game are true then PS5 will have an extra core for gaming over Series-X.

The back end, Mark Cerny is absolutely correct when he said it's easier to keep a smaller amount of CU's busy with work then it is a load of them. CU's are always never 100% utilized which is why a-sync compute came around to use up them when the game wasn't.

Also relating the back end, fill rate, texel rate, texturing, geometry set-up is all likely to be faster on PS5 due to the higher clock speed .

The SSD can pull data in quick enough to enable a whole new method of culling, saving a huge chuck of objects being drawn outside of the players frustrum and freeing up a lot of resources. Series-X's SSD is NO WHERE CLOSE TO PS5's.....

Having to damage control because BASE PS5 isn't far off the ENHANCED next-gen Xbox is laughable as there IS a Series-S and people are going to look very silly when it releases at it's rumored 6tflops......only for Sony to release a 20tflop PS5 Pro a few years from now.

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Only idiots thought it wouldn't work with all games as Mark Cerny never said it was just 100 games....

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@BlackShirt20 said:

@PSP107: it will be seconds. XSX SSD is 50% performance of the SSD that PS5 is aiming for. State of Decay 2 would have loaded in 3-4 seconds on PS5 in theory. But I can wait an extra 3-5 seconds here and there.

If designed for PS5 it would not load in 3-4 seconds but instantly.

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@Pedro said:
@tormentos said:
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The difference between the Cell and the 360 debacle is that these consoles are using the same tech and the same manufacturer. So, its not remotely the same situation.

That should be even easier to calculate.

In fact i posted an example of the 5700XT and 5700 which have 1.8TF difference in power and the gap was pretty small.

I think the xbox series X will always always be ahead more power on the same architecture means the one with more power will always win.

But the dude in the video has a point so does Cerny,AMD has problem with GPU with a great number of CU,and is clear when you Over clock Vega 56 which can beat Vega 64.

Vega 64 is 64 CU 12,65TF

Vega 56 is 56 CU 10.54TF

Not saying this will be the case here,but there is more than 2TF gap between this 2 GPU.

But i firmly believe the xbox should come on top always fallowing the same like of the PS4 and Pro examples.

AMD RDNA uses WGP which is not the same as the traditional CU. So, using the older architecture to leverage understanding of the newer is not accurate. People need to stop damage controlling the reality between the two systems and move on. All of this dancing around and speculation to make up for the blatant differences in performance is just silly.

As I have stated many times before and now, the difference is most likely going to be negligible. I could be wrong (I didn't think the Series X would be 12 TFLOPS ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ ). We will all see at the end of the year.

Who damage controlling? And CU has nothing to do with it, the example was to show that having extra shaders doesn't translate to better performance if you don't have the back end throughput to support it.