exactly why the big publishers don't like used games

R3FURBISHED

Sony won't do this because they have said. They know it is a stupid move but I have a question. The publishers miss money on used sales. This matters why? Every other industry can put up with it. Why are these guys any different? They already have WAY MORE control then they should have.

IF I can play PS3 games on it then IT IS backwards compatible. You don't get to make up your own definition of what is and isn't backwards compatibility.heeweesRus

It isn't about what you can do mate. It is about what everyone can do. If there are people who can't access Gaikai it isn't backwards compatible. Simple. It isn't a "definition" I am making up. It is a definition Sony admitted to when they removed backwards compatibility from PS3s. That was from Sony's own mouth.

GaikaiheeweesRus

That is flawed because not only is that unlikely to be there for launch, it isn't true compatibility. Its a streaming service meaning the user base that can access it is limited to those with an internet connection. True backwards compatible PS4 is not.

They seem to be doing a better job then they were with Vita as yet but they have made one mistake. They are releasing their only real system seller (a game that makes the masses rush out and buy the system) on PS3 around the same time they are launching the new one. Definitely better then MS though. But there are still all sorts of ways this can go wrong. Price, game pricing (EA said they would charge more for PS4 games), used game restrictions of their own. Plus it also has no backwards compatibility.

PS4 has no restrictions. And Bayonetta 2 is not a 3rd party game. Nintendo is funding it and has complete control over the game.

NathanDrakeSwag

You are absolutely certain of that? Read the Eurogamer article again. It says "it will play used games. How is that?" The keyword here being play. Not that there might be something like features getting lost, online passes or anything else that could happen when buying used. It definitely sounds like MS has the worst move in place but I wouldn't put it past Sony to try something.

For third party support if you are talking in general, engines won't matter anymore. EA in particular will be back-pedaling on Wii U the second they see the thing they invested so heavily in sink. Which gets the better support will depend on which gets the most acceptance.

PS4 doesn't require internet, plays used games and is the most powerful console with full 3rd party support :|

NathanDrakeSwag

He said restrictions. Restrictions are not limited to blocking. Also, no console has full third party support. One third party game PS4 won't be getting already. Bayonetta 2.

Look at all you haters now. Trolling Wii U the whole time about power and now look what price that power comes at. Your own self respect and rights as a consumer. Anyone who buys Xbox One is the biggest tool ever. If Microsoft told you that paying them fees to play single player was best for them and the developers would you believe them? If you believe companies are "deserving" or "entitled" to the money of used games you are either blind and brainwashed or you work for these companies and are on their pay roll.

Nintendo should continue to make their own hardware so we are not forced to put up with this corporate self entitled greed. Every other industry on the planet can get by with used sales. Why not games? What makes these companies so special and entitled? Stop giving them power for crying out loud. Tell them to stick it. The more you bend over the more they push this. Xbox One is not the next gen console you want and anyone who says they wanted to pay fees for used games is just outright lying. Make this thing flop hard and either send MS packing or make them re-release it. YOU deserve better then this! Have some darn respect for yourself and QUIT bending over!

Why are people so bothered about Wii U's power? The lack of power didn't stop Mario Galaxy 2 being the best platformer this generation. It didn't stop Xenoblade being the best JRPG this generation. It hasn't at all effected the quality of Nintendo's output.

And if anyone brings up "third party support" as a factor they must also believe the world is flat. Or the issue with a lack of support for PSP was piracy amirite?

Well, that decision is out of Sony's hands. If the publisher wants to use DRM on their games, what exactly do you want Sony to do about that? If Sony made it so that the machine didn't work with it at all, they risk losing support.Shewgenja

I don't blame Sony or Microsoft for whatever they may do with their systems. They are under the "guidance" of bigger publishers trying to make a quick buck. I do wish consumers would wise up to some of them and make them realize that they don't have the power they think they do. In every other industry things have stayed as they are but in games its their way or the high way.

In regards to the companies pushing it (again assuming Sony or MS don't want to enforce this) companies like EA chose their path to make games. They should face the consequences of being in this industry. Eventually these guys are going to push one too many buttons.

But.. in all seriousness, they said it will play used gams.  They have said that it will play games offline.  What is it exactly you want?  It's the same thing we have with the PS3 as far as anyone can tell.  So, I mean, not sure what you really want.

Shewgenja

Well playing used games doesn't mean they aren't going to prevent them. CVG kind of squeezed out of them that "you know we'll do the right thing so consumers get what they want bro.... and publishers". I'm pointing out while its obvious by now a forced online connection was at least considered for the Xbox (its unlikely they will actually do it) not all the facts are known about PS4 either. It wasn't just CVG as well. I've noticed a few interviews where Sony have implied publishers (if not Sony themselves) will make attempts to get you to buy new. Which is still going down ground against a consumer's right.