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#1  Edited By Pipesmasher
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This doesnt deserve praise. They never shouldve been behind the xbox live paywall fees to BEGIN WITH.

Only an idiot would praise Microsoft for FINALLY offering its apps for free when all the competitors have been offering those same apps for free for years

Even adding this news along side with the kinect free xbone price drop, the xbone still amounts to NOTHING more then a much weaker PS4...but with none of the share features, worse first parties, and a worse online service.

Never getting an xbone. There is NO need to. PS4 does everything better, has the superior multi-plats, the better first party studios so I.e will get the better exclusives too, and PSN+ still offers far more value then xbox live.

Thers no point for the xbone to even exist. PS4 has it all covered, does it all much better, and keeps the focus on gaming to boot , unlike the xbone.

Off topic, remember during the PS3 days, when people would parrot the BS that all Sony does is copy Microsoft (even though the Dreamcast, and even the PS2 did online console gaming wayy before the xbox ever even existed)

YET its been Microsoft copying Sony again and again this gen. Microsoft keeps trying to turn the xbone into the PS4...but the xbone will always be nothing more then a bootleg weaker PS4. Can you get any more pathetic!

All Microsoft does is copy Sony. It figures. Microsoft is clueless and never had a clue about gaming. With out Sony leading the way, Microsoft WOULD be lost with its thumb up its own ass.

Nothing Microsoft does can stop the PS4 freight trane. PS4 is a cultural phenomenon and keeps breaking sales records

The best years in gaming have all come when the Playstation was dominating.

**** Microsoft and the garbage anti-consumer xbox brand. The xbox brand is a dying brand and only ever had semi-relevance in America (and that was just due to the PS3 stumbling in America. PS4 has retaken back America. Xbox is done. Thank god)

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@kalipekona said:

@selfreflect said:

Watch Dogs is not a graphically impressive game

Infamous Second Son literally looks a generation better. Vertacality, tops of buildings are rendered, greater draw distances from every direction, much more particle effects, much better lighting, super power effects, destructable environments, higher detailed and higher poly cars, a much higher poly main character model....Infamous puts Watch Dogs to shame and yet Infamous is still at 1080p

The PS4 could EASILY handle Watch Dogs at 1080p....so this news doesnt make sense ..

Ubisoft is gimping the PS4 version....likely to enforce parity as much as they can

We as gamers need to call Ubisoft out on this BS

The PS4 is also the market leader so Ubisoft is messing up even more

If thats not the case then Ubisoft is an incompetent developer

Either way, they are CLEARLY not taking advantage of the PS4's significant power advantage and greater ease of use/development

Im NOT buying this game.

And I WILL never buy any other multiplat that has forced parity with xbone. We all need to stand up collectively and send this message loud and clear

What delusion. Almost everything you said is completely false. Infamous Second Son has pretty mediocre draw distance compared to Watch Dogs. ISS has very agressive LOD changes and quite a bit of pop-in. Things are much clearer and more detailed in the distance in Watch Dogs.

The lighting, too, is easily better in Watch Dogs. At night in Infamous Second Son very few light sources cast shadows. There are a lot more dynamic shadows in Watch Dogs than in Infamous SS.

The cars also look better in Watch Dogs both from a geometry and texture/shader perspective. The character models in both games look about on par, no clear victor there.

All in all both games look fairly comparable in many areas, but Watch Dogs is more dynamic in its simulations.

How ironic. If anyone is delusional ITS YOU. Youre delusional if you cant see how much better Infamous looks.....or youre just blind.

Infamous has MUCH greater draw distances because it has to be rendered from ROOF TOPS and much higher places etc. Its a whole other level of vertacilty that Watch Dogs DOES NOT RENDER.

Infamous also has a MUCH HIGHER level of detail in EVERYTHING from up close and from afar.

Oh and the lighting isnt even a contest. Not only does Infamous have some of the most impressive lighting in a video game ever, the lighting in Watch Dogs on its own merit is nothing impressive lol. Its flat, and so static looking

I agree with most. Infamous looks a generation beyond Watch Dogs...oh and Infamous is at 1080p too, cough unlike Watch Dogs.

Infamous further proves that Ubisoft is incompetent

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@melonfarmerz said:

@selfreflect: "PS4 has been able to run most PC games on meduim to high end seetings too...thats pretty impressive...."PS4 is a low end PC" my ass"

If the PS4 runs most PC games at medium, 30fps, 900p, then yes, it is most definitely a low end PC. If you believe the value of consoles over time is better than PC's, I think you need to step into 2014. Even the most hardcore console fanboys know PC is a lot cheaper over 5 years.

And no. The PS4 is future proof because it will have no competition for 7 years. That's the only reason. It's a weak peace of hardware. There's no secret sauce, just like the Xbox. The way it runs games now is how it will run games in 7 years.

Your beloved PS4 is more powerful than the Xbox. Congrats. But being the best console is like being the best of the worst.

Go eduacte youreself on hUMA and GPU+GPU, future solutions, both of which the PS4 is capable of, and in the instance of GPU+GPU, the PS4 was built for it. Its no secret sauce like xbone ESDRM, or like xbone DX12, or like the power of the cloud lies and non sense from Microsoft. The PS4 just has the much better specs, plain and simple, and it was much better designed, and built with the future much more in mind...

This isnt about PC. Its about consoles and PS4>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>xbone

Even then, even IF i adress your stupid deflection type comments about PC....There is NO $400 PC in existence that can offer the graphics the PS4 does for its 400$ price point. Power per dollar, nothing comes close to the PS4. Best value ever

Lets ALSO BE REAL, there is only a small percentage of PC gamers who have high end PCs that are much more powerful then a PS4

The majority of PC gamers have low-mid PCs...PS4's specs are certainly on par if NOT better then MOST mid PCs...except PS4 only costs 400$...

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#4  Edited By Pipesmasher
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@xhawk27 said:

You can't compare the two games Infamous and Watch Dogs. Watch Dogs is a bigger world for one thing and it's doing a lot more inside of it too. Also it has multiplayer something that Infamous does not.

Ubisoft open world games have awful shitty gameplay. Watch Dogs will be no different. Mean while Infamous Second Son had amazing gameplay/traversal...so I guess youre right, you cant compare them;)

Graphically though....In any one frame there is much more going on in Infamous Second Son. Dont kid yourself. Whether its the millions of partical effects at one time, coupled with the far greater draw distances from roof tops - all bathed in the much better lighting, with realistic reflections and uber rain/puddle effects etc. The environments themselfes offer much more destructability and interactivity (ability to climb ANY thing etc) Infamous is just doing so many more impressive things under the hood of the PS4. The IQ is spotless too. Where as Watch Dogs has shit IQ.

More examples: there are FAR MORE polygons on screen at one time in any given frame in Infamous too. For instance, the cars and character models in Infamous contain much higher polygon counts. MUCH HIGHER. Infamous also has much more complex geomotry going on

I dont know how this whole "Watch Dogs is doing a lot more" or "its much bigger" damage control bullshit came about. Its completely FALSE.

We have to keep it real. Infamous OUT CLASSES Watch Dogs plain and simple. Infamous looks sooooo much better and is still able to hit native 1080p. So Infamous is only being brough up in response to the trolls/haters saying that the PS4 cant handle high detailed graphics at 1080p. As has been proven, Infamous KILLS that argument and BURRIES it 300 feet deep into the crater of the earth

To word it differently so you understand it better. Watch Dogs LOOKS much worse and CANT hit 1080p so the blame should go on Ubisoft for being incompetent, because again, Infamous PROVES that the PS4 can factually do much much more and IS capable of much much much more. Infamous looks a ton better and is 108Op. The PS4 hardware has proven itself. Its Watch Dogs and Ubisoft that fail miserably (the xbone is always a miserable failure. Its not even had 1 impressive game at 1080p LMAO)

On an unrelated note. I agree with others. IF multi-platform developers dont want their games to be thrashed then THEY better forget the xbone versions and focus on the PS4

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#5  Edited By Pipesmasher
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-PS4 share features (share factory, streaming, Infamous photo mode etc)

-Playroom streaming, live from playstation etc

Funny, for all the talk of PS4 being more of the same, it ended up delivering the most innovation (while still offering the most powerful graphics at the best price)

The best part, the innovations the PS4 brought were all about gaming, features centered purely around gaming....unlike the xbones TV gimicks/kinect gimick/or the Wii U's gamepad gimick.

PS4 FTW -truly is the gamers chosen console....

Sony did a hell of a job with the PS4. Hit all the right notes. For the gamer by the gamer. PS4 is breaking all time sales records for GOOD reason!

PS4 saved this generation. So happy with it