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#1 muscleserge
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#2 muscleserge
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@vfibsux: @deeliman: @vfibsux: @vfibsux:

@vfibsux said:

@-Sun_Tzu- said:

@vfibsux said:

@muscleserge said:

@vfibsux: @vfibsux:

The said minister is a member of the parliament, look him up if you wish, all of the others are also confirmed nationalist.

Oh no, Russia was right, bu bu Russia bad, can't be. Just stop your BS, its obvious from your other posts that when proven wrong you act like a child. Didn't you say you don't give a S*&T in the other thread.

They filmed it to showcase it, the vid and the letter or resignation was posted to facebook by the Svoboda Party's press secretary. There are countless videos from the opposition, they think they will win people's favor with these stunts. Remember they are nationalists, hence their followers are too, who would support them even more. Votes, thats the reason. But they only alienate them selves further from the average Ukrainian.

So then you are saying this party that only held 30 something seats out of nearly 500 from past elections is going to magically get majority votes because they are posting this? Cool story bro.

The true fact is this party has no pull at all and its existence in the Ukraine government has been widely exaggerated.

Again....what are their names since these are all "confirmed" members. You surely must have names to confirm who they are. Where does this confirmation come from?

Svoboda has no pull at all? Bullshit, they have numerous ministry positions within the new government, including but not limited to deputy prime minister as well as the minister of defense and the attorney general of Ukraine.

You mean the INTERIM government. Stop talking as this this is some new permanent regime, it is intellectually dishonest. There will be elections in May, and I predict Svoboda will not have any more power than they did before. If they miraculously go from having 30 something seats out of 500 to even 1/5 of the seats I would be surprised. The point is until that happens this is all bullshit. If the new government is being run by these people it is then an issue. I also stated I don't think any aid should be given until the election results are in.

Again, exaggeration to excuse Lord Putin's actions, that is all this shit is.

So you mean to tell me that after the new elections, say they don't score any votes, they will what, just go away? These people came to power using violence, and who's to say they won't do it again. Who's to say Maidan 2 won't happen, only this time the authorities a greatly weakened, and it will be much more bloody. Fascist don't give up power, a history lesson I find myself repeating a lot recently.

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#3  Edited By muscleserge
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@vfibsux: @deeliman: @vfibsux: @vfibsux:

The said minister is a member of the parliament, look him up if you wish, all of the others are also confirmed nationalist.

Oh no, Russia was right, bu bu Russia bad, can't be. Just stop your BS, its obvious from your other posts that when proven wrong you act like a child. Didn't you say you don't give a S*&T in the other thread.

They filmed it to showcase it, the vid and the letter or resignation was posted to facebook by the Svoboda Party's press secretary. There are countless videos from the opposition, they think they will win people's favor with these stunts. Remember they are nationalists, hence their followers are too, who would support them even more. Votes, thats the reason. But they only alienate them selves further from the average Ukrainian.

Its not. The moment something that seems pro-Russian is posted it is automatically assumed rigged or false without any attempt to research or prove it. He also assumed which side I am on without proof. My response was perfectly justified, its tiring arguing with people who don't even bother to check up on facts before spewing nonsense from an assumed moral high horse.

Enough pull to have a minister of defense and to have a deputy of a committee of free speech, as well as other key positions. See if you would have researched the issue, you would have known this. The burden of proof is on you, I have backed up my facts, time to back up yours, since I have proven time and again that you spew garbage.

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Where did I advocate the annexation of Crimea in any of my posts?

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#4 muscleserge
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@vfibsux: @deeliman: @vfibsux: @vfibsux:

The said minister is a member of the parliament, look him up if you wish, all of the others are also confirmed nationalist.

Oh no, Russia was right, bu bu Russia bad, can't be. Just stop your BS, its obvious from your other posts that when proven wrong you act like a child. Didn't you say you don't give a S*&T in the other thread.

They filmed it to showcase it, the vid and the letter or resignation was posted to facebook by the Svoboda Party's press secretary. There are countless videos from the opposition, they think they will win people's favor with these stunts. Remember they are nationalists, hence their followers are too, who would support them even more. Votes, thats the reason. But they only alienate them selves further from the average Ukrainian.

Its not. The moment something that seems pro-Russian is posted it is automatically assumed rigged or false without any attempt to research or prove it. He also assumed which side I am on without proof. My response was perfectly justified, its tiring arguing with people who don't even bother to check up on facts before spewing nonsense from an assumed moral high horse.

Enough pull to have a minister of defense and to have a deputy of a committee of free speech, as well as other key positions. See if you would have researched the issue, you would have known this. The burden of proof is on you, I have backed up my facts, time to back up yours, since I have proven time and again that you spew garbage.

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#5  Edited By muscleserge
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@deeliman: @vfibsux: @vfibsux:

The said minister is a member of the parliament, look him up if you wish, all of the others are also confirmed nationalist.

Oh no, Russia was right, bu bu Russia bad, can't be. Just stop your BS, its obvious from your other posts that when proven wrong you act like a child. Didn't you say you don't give a S*&T in the other thread.

They filmed it to showcase it, the vid and the letter or resignation was posted to facebook by the Svoboda Party's press secretary. There are countless videos from the opposition, they think they will win people's favor with these stunts. Remember they are nationalists, hence their followers are too, who would support them even more. Votes, thats the reason. But they only alienate them selves further from the average Ukrainian.

Its not. The moment something that seems pro-Russian is posted it is automatically assumed rigged or false without any attempt to research or prove it. He also assumed which side I am on without proof. My response was perfectly justified, its tiring arguing with people who don't even bother to check up on facts before spewing nonsense from an assumed moral high horse.

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#6  Edited By muscleserge
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@vfibsux: @vfibsux:

The said minister is a member of the parliament, look him up if you wish, all of the others are also confirmed nationalist.

Oh no, Russia was right, bu bu Russia bad, can't be. Just stop your BS, its obvious from your other posts that when proven wrong you act like a child. Didn't you say you don't give a S*&T in the other thread.

They filmed it to showcase it, the vid and the letter or resignation was posted to facebook by the Svoboda Party's press secretary. There are countless videos from the opposition, they think they will win people's favor with these stunts. Remember they are nationalists, hence their followers are too, who would support them even more. Votes, thats the reason. But they only alienate them selves further from the average Ukrainian.

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#7  Edited By muscleserge
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@vfibsux:

The said minister is a member of the parliament, look him up if you wish, all of the others are also confirmed nationalist.

Oh no, Russia was right, bu bu Russia bad, can't be. Just stop your BS, its obvious from your other posts that when proven wrong you act like a child. Didn't you say you don't give a S*&T in the other thread.

http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/ukraine-crisis/far-right-ukrainian-lawmaker-assaults-state-tv-boss-n56786

Here is an article from NBC in regard to the incident. Again you just showed your extreme bias. Your opinion is yet again worthless. You can stop further embarrassing yourself.

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"It is astonishing that a member of the parliamentary committee on freedom of speech was involved in this attack," said a statement by Heather McGill, Ukraine researcher at rights group Amnesty International. "The acting authorities must send a signal that this sort of behavior will not be tolerated in Ukraine."

"Miroshnichenko is a member of parliament for the far-right Svoboda (Freedom) Party - which has been described by some analysts as "neo-fascist." He is the deputy head on Ukraine's freedom of speech committee. He was accompanied by at least five other people."

Amnesty International is just a bunch of Russian actors according to @vfibsux, must be, they don't agree with his opinion.

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#8  Edited By muscleserge
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I'll just leave this here.

Clifs since its in Ukranian:

-A Minister from the Svoboda(Freedom) party came to see the head of one of the TV stations in Ukraine

-His TV station broadcasted Putin's address

-The minister just happens to be on the committee of the freedom of speech in Ukraine

-The minister tells the head to write a resignation letter

-When refused, he gets violent along with his posse, beating and forcing to write the letter

-Argument of the minister: The head uses public funds for the station, the minister calls him a Moscal(derogotory remark, meaning Russian or Russian lover) because of the broadcast

-Argument of head: Ukrainians have a right to hear Putin's address, freedom of speech, won't write the letter

A prime example of the Ukrainian democracy at work, further proof of the fascists in power. LoLing at the irony that the person responsible for overseeing freedom of speech in Ukraine is using violence to suppress it cause he deems it unacceptable. No due process of even an attempt.

Lets remember that fascists all through out history never easily let go of power.

Edit:

If anyone doesn't know, the Svoboda party is a far-right nationalist party, with confirmed ties to other such parties all through out Europe. After the "revolution" such parties gained a lot of power and have a lot of seats in the new parliament.

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#9 muscleserge
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Well if you don't give a s&*t, why participate or hand out your now useless opinions. You just invalidated your every opinion or response on the matter.

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#10 muscleserge
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Clifs are as follows:

73% out of the 75% of required votes in the parliament were obtained to oust Yanukovich, aka not enough, aka he is still the president if they are to follow the constitution.

He lists the new heads of state who are known fascists with ties to other fascist/nazi partied in Europe, like the minister of defense, the vice prime minister, MP of transportation, agriculture, enviornment, etc. And makes a point that fascist don't easily give up power.

Makes a point that the new government was also put in place under the barrel of a gun, however only Crimea's referendum is mentioned so.

Watch the whole thing, he isn't pro-Putin by a long shot and blames Russia quite alot too. Don't draw conclusions by the first 3 minutes. Your credibility suffers quite a bit. Buah, Buha, the vid mentions Russia good, must be whole video, bu but Russia baddy, buah, buah. You sound like a child. @vfibsux