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I honestly think America lets its own self patriotism and thought that everything it does is right and just get in the way of it's common sense.
I live in Northern Ireland I've seen the affects of (mostly American funded might I add) terrorism in the form of the Irish Republican army or I.R.A. Learn from the mistakes the British army made here, attempting to control the people and killing the families of the terrorists causes more people to become alienated an disalousioned with the System trying to control them. In the end you have more terrorists.
May I also point out, in what way is an American civilians life more important than an Afgans civilian life? Yes 9/11 was an atroucious thing to happen and I won't attempt to condone it. But your war (Which in my opinion is no more just than another form of terroism and the UN declared illegal) has resulted in more deaths than 9/11. Look at yourselves as not a single nation but a nation of the world and you might find out why your foreign policy is so hipocritical (Especially when the Republicans are in power, in the eyes of the rest of the world those guys are consirvative fools).
If anything I would say America is increasing the likelhood of terrorism because in the countries they haveinvaded people see it as an attack on them and other nations see it as an attack on them. I just hope the Uk stops following America into these wars.
fidosim
You aren't really trying to blame centuries of conflict between Britons and Irish on the United States, are you?
A few things:
1. To say that America's waging of the War on Terror is a lack of common sense indicates...well, a lack of common sense. Common sense dictates that after being attacked, and after having soldiers and civilians killed by an enemy, that enemy needs to be destroyed. Unfortunately, it wasn't until the 4th time (4th!) that the United States was attacked that we finally had a president who was interested in being a leader instead of a celebrity.
2. The American experience in the Middle East is different from British Imperialism for a number of reasons, but the primary reason the comparison doesn't work is because the United States has created Democratic, indigenously-controlled governments in Iraq and Afghanistan, rather than imposing the American government over the local one. The governments in Iraq and Afghanistan by-and-large have the confidence of the people, because they personally have a stake in them. The Taliban and Al Qaeda are not the Afghan people, rather they are beseiging Afghanistan largely from the outside, in the hopes that their authority will be accepted over confidence in the American Mission.
3. The reason that an American's life is more important than an Afghan life is because WE are Americans. We're not the subjects of an international body like the UN, and we're certainly not "citizens of the world", despite what the buffoon in the White House might think. The very idea is ludicrous, it's absurd, and it's dangerous. That being said, the U.S. is making an effort to protect innocent civilians, although civilian deaths are inevitable.
4. If being a "Conservative fool" means that I'm not keen on living in a country that cannot defend itself unless it pleases the corrupt, malicious, ignorant leaders of an organization that meets on the security of our soil to tell us what we can and cannot do, then I'm guilty as charged.
Nowhere in my post did I say the Irish conflict was Americas fault (it resulted mostly from underlying tensions and bad british foreign policy during the famine) I said historically the Majority of the Ira's funding came from those who saw themselves as 'Irish American' (Or from the Lybian goverment, but thats unrelated to my post).
As for a democracy in Afghanistan, what a farce did you follow the recent election there was only one candidate due to bribery and corruption.
"The reason that an American's life is more important than an Afghan life is because WE are Americans." That sentance made me cringe, I'm going to generalize and say your a southern American Christian, so all Ihave to say is thisLuke 6:31 "Do unto others as you would have them do unto you". If you think you can go into countrys and kill people's familys, friends and communities they will seek to do the same to you and it becomes and endless cycle.
America is is basically doing all the recruitment for the terrorist organisations and is proverbialy the oxygen of it's own fire. The British army experience the same things here during the 60's and 70's.
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