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#1 maynardburger
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

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Sure and those that lose their jobs will start a new studio, they will start small and grow big..... Tearing down this backwards thinking is not gona come without a price....... But in the end everybody but Microsoft and Sony wins.

Also don't get it twisted, this industry maybe working fine just now but its far from good... We've merely grown used to doing something so wrong that nobody remembers whats right anymore.... Thats not a reason to keep doing it..... I say shut it down and start over, except this time... Do it right.

Starting a new studio costs money. Starting a large, new studio costs a *lot* of money. Again, I don't know where you think the money is going to come from.

The industry may not be perfect, but we gamers are still enjoying tons of fantastic games that cover an unprecedented breadth of variety. You say that 'nobody remembers whats right anymore', but what was 'right'? When in the past did your pipe dream exist that we've forgotten about? How old are you, even?

We do not win with your idea. The game industry would be ruined. You are living in lala land Lulu.

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#2 maynardburger
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There's games I haven't liked as much as most people.

Wouldn't say that makes a game 'overrated', as if my opinion is the only one that counts or something.

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#3 maynardburger
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"Anyways, the point of exclusives is to build incentive to buy a specific console."

Obviously.... But thats a win for the Manufacturers... Not you.

"If everything was available on every platform, competition would dry up and there'd be little financial motivation to build a console."

Too bad...... For console Manufacturers..... Not you.

"And all these 1st party game studios wouldn't just suddenly become independent, they'd collapse. They are supported financially by these big corporations and cant survive on their own." Thats absolute worst case scenario...... Actually even the smallest studios can survive just fine on their own...... They might even do better if they were able to go on multiple platforms.... And if they don't it will shine a light on people who buy something for no reason other than exclusisivity. Sounds like dumb logic to me.....

"Then again, there would be no way to enforce this. Exclusives are simply inevitable."

No.... Stupidity is inevitable..... Its only video games that do this. This level of backwards thinking doesn't exist in music and movies & television.

Yes, it is a win for the manufacturers, but you know, making games isn't a charity. They aren't doing this out of the love of their hearts and gaming. Its a business. It needs to recoup R&D costs, make money and please shareholders. If that doesn't happen, they stop making consoles. And they stop making games.

No, a 1st party studio of 200+ people isn't going to survive after the paychecks from the megacorporation that used to own them stops coming in. It will collapse. It may survive in name with a small group of people still around, but that's still hundreds of jobs gone(for just this one studio) and their ability to build a top flight console game is gone. They would be a little indie studio at best.

And have you been paying attention to how many game studios closed up over the past 5-7 years? Being independent is not a safe, stable environment. That's why the most secure studios are under 1st party contracts or are under one of a few major publishers like Activision, Ubisoft, Rockstar and EA(not that these places are 100% safe, either). And there's only so much room in these places. The dropping out of dozens of large, 1st party studios would be disasterous for the industry and would mean far less games overall.

I'm sorry, but you seem to have very little grasp of how the industry works and you think that the money to make these games just grows in their backyard or something. Worst case scenario is the entire collapse of console gaming. Best case scenario, it would just be a very diminished and poor state compared to what it is now. There is no way this ends up being good for gamers at all.

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#4  Edited By maynardburger
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Why not hear me out before calling it 'dumb logic'?

Anyways, the point of exclusives is to build incentive to buy a specific console. If everything was available on every platform, competition would dry up and there'd be little financial motivation to build a console. The only way to differentiate yourself would be on services and aesthetics basically, which isn't really enough on their own.

But the main thing is that its just not practical. Sony isn't going to spend money to build a game that will come out on a competitor's platform. Ditto with Microsoft. Ditto Nintendo. And all these 1st party game studios wouldn't just suddenly become independent, they'd collapse. They are supported financially by these big corporations and cant survive on their own. From this factor alone, it would mean far less games for everybody. Looking at the bigger picture, it would probably mean the end of console gaming as we know it(it might still survive on a much smaller scale, but nothing like it is now).

Then again, there would be no way to enforce this. Exclusives are simply inevitable. Always will be so long as gaming is dominated by giant corporations like Sony, MS and Nintendo.

So its both not viable and not realistic.

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#5 maynardburger
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We need both. It would be ridiculous if games were all split up into separate platforms. It would also be ridiculous if every game was available on every platform.

And Lulu, I see your disdain for FROM and the Souls games has not abated. There was nothing 'lazy' about Dark Souls 2, anyways. PC version was incredibly well optimized. I can run it at 1440p/locked 60fps, with HBAO+ on top no sweat on my mid-range PC. I should really try and up the resolution further honestly, not that it doesn't look great as it is.

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#6 maynardburger
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GTAV on PC *finally*. I have it on PS3, but couldn't play more than 15 minutes due to the bad framerate. Really looking forward to playing it in its full glory.

No Man's Sky also looks like it has a ton of potential, agree with you there OP. I love games that inspire a sense of wonder. I hope they get VR support in there, cuz it would be killer.

I'm really excited about Bloodborne, but disappointed we saw no gameplay.

The Halo Collection is going to be the best 'package' game deal since The Orange Box. Should be fantastic.

Far Cry 4 looked amazing and ditto to The Witcher 3. Between these and GTAV, I think my open-world itch will be firmly scratched.

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#7 maynardburger
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We already knew about everything, basically. Its all been somewhat disappointing.

Bout equal between Sony and MS, I guess. Will depend on which games appeal to you more.

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#8 maynardburger
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@Lulu_Lulu said:

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Indeed. Its even affected the gaming Mascots. People are more likely to Recognise Nathan Drake and MasterChief than Sonic and Sackboy ! :(

Master Chief has been around well before Sackboy.

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#9  Edited By maynardburger
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If anybody wants any advice on building a gaming PC, just hop over to the subforum and ask.

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#10 maynardburger
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@SovietsUnited said:

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obviously higher scores mean better games, but by linearity, I mean true, 1:1 linearity. Is there a true distinction between a game that gets a 3 and one that gets a 4? A game that gets a 1 and a game that gets a 3? In the lower reaches, the 'scale' breaks down a bit.

The way I see it 4 is sub-par: the bad outweighs the good, the said good mechanics are shallow and not well realized, but work nonetheless some people will enjoy or cope with it. A 3 should be flat-out bad, with little to no positives, not recommended to anyone. But it could have been worse; we have 2 for those

A 1 is what it is, a game which is insultingly, laughably terrible and absolute rock-bottom; the new boundary of awful for other games to break.

Well you're basically arguing by what you think reviews 'should be' rather than what they actually are.