Pretty much the only argument people seem to have for why they adore Steam but shit on Xbox One is "teh deals." And that's a very flimsy argument. ShoulderOfOrionExactly. It is like people can easily leave their principles behind if the price is right. It is like that banker who is very vocal about ethics in the workplace yet he would accept a 10m dollar bribe because 'thatz alot of moni'. Stick to your principles people or simply abandon them.
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yeah but that is countered by competitively (cheap) priced games due to competition between multiple DD retailers
lostrib
So I guess people are okay with intrusive DRM if the prices are low?
[QUOTE="kingfire11"][QUOTE="campzor"]why would you want to game share when you get can like a x4 bundle for the price of 1 xboned game and then give 3 codes to friends.PonchoTacoSo guess DRM and all that shit does not matter as long as the prices are good? You basically accept to have your rights taken away just because you are saving a few bucks? You can't sell what you have. Hell, even the EU courts are not happy about that. PC games are so cheap that you don't need to sell them. DRM is fine with PC. PCs aren't meant for you to lug around and play. PCs are stationary gaming/entertainment systems. DVD movies are cheap too yet the used market still exists and shit will blow out if movie studios try to kill it. Gaming is changing. Many people are gaming on touch screens and laptops nowadays so the ability to sell your games is important. Also, consoles by nature are stationary devices too!
THat's far better than lending Xbox One will offer. What you outlined as "lending" is actually illegal under Steam's EULA since you are not supposed to share your account with anybody, so here goes your argument. Although Xbone's lending system is horrible, it at least will exist, unlike Valve's Steam.[QUOTE="kingfire11"]
By "lend account" you mean giving your password to somebody so that person uses it for some time then I can only lol at this.
AdrianWerner
why would you want to game share when you get can like a x4 bundle for the price of 1 xboned game and then give 3 codes to friends.campzorSo guess DRM and all that shit does not matter as long as the prices are good? You basically accept to have your rights taken away just because you are saving a few bucks? You can't sell what you have. Hell, even the EU courts are not happy about that.
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No...because:
You can play offline whenever you want.
You can lend your account to all your friends without first needing get permission.
AdrianWerner
You can't lend games on Steam as far as I know. Please correct me if I am wrong.
You can lend account. Plus a lot of Steam games have no DRM.By "lend account" you mean giving your password to somebody so that person uses it for some time then I can only lol at this.
No. People still buy and support games that are Steam-exclusive. You remember the whole "no steam=no sale" thingy?not all games are forced steam support there goes your argument.
pcgamingowns
No...because:
You can play offline whenever you want.
You can lend your account to all your friends without first needing get permission.
AdrianWerner
You can't lend games on Steam as far as I know. Please correct me if I am wrong.
On Steam:
1) You have to be connected to the internet to activate any new games, even the ones you bought from retail.
2) Constantly gets greeted by annoying pop-up when you launch the client.
3) NO USED GAMES AT ALL! You can't legally sell your games under their EULA.
4) No game sharing beside giving your account to somebody else.
5) Offline mode is really spotty and can get very buggy at some times.
6) You can't get unbanned from VAC if your account was hacked and the hacker used cheats on VAC servers. You have to re-buy all these games.
7) System was forced on the consumers on 2004 specially with the release of HL2. Many copies of that game required Steam to function when Steam was really buggy and crappy. This is the definition of anti-consumer right there.
On Xbone:
1) Connect at least once every 24, which sucks.
2) Used games will still exist, but the market will be more controlled.
3) Sharing will be available (up to 10 family members).
4) Loaning the games or giving away to friends will be avalible (not on launch).
So why does Gamespot posters defend the POS that is STEAM in arms? If people are really agains the POS that is DRM and the Xbone then perhaps they need to stick to their principles and fight big Gabe Newell too since his policies are even worse regarding used games. No wonder his ass is getting kicked by EU courts where this crap can't pass there.
I get that people enjoy the savings, but would those people support the xbone if prices were cheaper? Are people really okay with crappy DRM if they are saving a few bucks even if the DRM is anti-consumer? Are gamers simply addicted and can't stop gaming no matter how bad the treatment they get is?
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