Companies like Microsoft don't panic, this is simply a case of "Okay this route doesn't seem to be working and people are not liking it, let's try something else." Calling it panic is a gross dramatization to amplify the seriousness of the situation Microsoft is facing and making it look considerably worse.

Lol what? I gave you a quote from a famous author and that makes me mad? Come back when you can troll better than throwing out random "you mad?" statements.

Not really the point I was making, but anyway. So, what you are saying in your statement is you can get a Brand New Xbone with with two games, a year of live, and 3 downloadable games where you live for $200? Half the price of a $400 PS4 with TLoU.

I call BULLSHIT !!! Link it, and prove me wrong.

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Critics who treat 'adult' as a term of approval, instead of as a merely descriptive term, cannot be adult themselves. To be concerned about being grown up, to admire the grown up because it is grown up, to blush at the suspicion of being childish; these things are the marks of childhood and adolescence. And in childhood and adolescence they are, in moderation, healthy symptoms. Young things ought to want to grow. But to carry on into middle life or even into early manhood this concern about being adult is a mark of really arrested development. When I was ten, I read fairy tales in secret and would have been ashamed if I had been found doing so. Now that I am fifty I read them openly. When I became a man I put away childish things, including the fear of childishness and the desire to be very grown up"

-C.S. Lewis

Not really interested in buying anything refurbished. Especially not with a crappy 90 day warranty.

Still funny to watch people try to act like MS is having a fire sale with the Xbone, while the PS4 isn't getting discounts and bundles all over the place also...fanboys. They really only see what they want to see don't they?

I wouldn't buy that pile of shit for $1. I'm rough on ps4, but xbone is even worse some how.

Ehh ps4 and xbone should be okay. Neither have anything worth playing so they probably didn't get much use the first time around.

@highking_kallor: then tell me why console version has better gameplay. If anything is equal to PC, but PC as the added bonus of having 1st person.

In that case PC has better gameplay solely because it has the 1st person view point.

If you don't like M/KB ytou can hook up a controller to the PC (Like I do).

PS4, needs more POWAAA