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#1 Posted by glitch2424 (897 posts) -

Hitman for sure, since I never enjoyed the AC games (they're boring).

Absolution, while a solid stealth game, is not for everyone. While I'm only on the 4rth mission right now (out of 20 missions?), the game almost forces you to play a specific way. It's more lenient in terms of getting spotted compared to previous hitman games, but at the same time forces you to do specific activities (that are not told to you) to get highscores, so you'll spend about i'd say 50% of your time walking/running around to find out the best possible way to beat a mission. Of course you can beat the mission any way you want, but finding the best possible way to get the highscore takes a while. So far I'd rate it 7.5/8 out of 10.

I'd recommend other games instead, such as dishonored (recently released) or mark of ninja (if you have a decent pc), b/c those are stealth games you might like more. Deus Ex (ps3/pc/360) or Splinter cell conviction (pc/360), are great stealth games as well. These 4 games listed are all fantastic stealth games, so take you pick.

#2 Posted by glitch2424 (897 posts) -

Thanks for the replies everyone. I will go with hitman or dishonored first, and then maybe pick up this game, since this game is not quite "stealth". The game in itself looks fantastic though, going to pick it up in the near future

#3 Posted by glitch2424 (897 posts) -

Hi, I was wondering if this game has stealth mechanics, and if most of the game can be stealthed? I've seen some gameplay vids, and it seems like you can use silencers and sneak behind enemies.

Also, if you can compare it other stealth games (eg, dishonored, deus ex, hitman), who does it compare stealthwise and gamewise?

#4 Posted by glitch2424 (897 posts) -

Most stealth games are actually puzzle games in-disguise. Sure you can play a level naturally and let whatever happens happen, but the fun and/or challenge is finding your way through a level un-noticed and clean. There is absolutely nothing shameful or wrong with replaying a level until you get thru "cleanly."

As for Hitman, I enjoyed the "puzzle aspect," of each level, some more than others. I enjoyed Deus Ex more however for the RPG elements. Each games was enjoyable and I recommend them both.

porkchopxp

That's true. It's unfortunate some stealth games "force" you into firefights to explore the shooting aspects of their games. But you are right, the rooms of these stealth games are in fact puzzles. Hitman is a bit more ambigious in terms of stealth, b/c a lot of your stealth tools (eg, disguises and environmental traps) are not obvious and are far apart from each other.

#5 Posted by glitch2424 (897 posts) -

It's also worth noting gamespot also gave Infamous 2 a 7.5, when should it should've been at least an 8.5 or an 8 (the guy who rated that game is such a terrible reviewer, his reviews are almost never accurate - I'm not gonna say names, but try to avoid his reviews, he is not at all a good writer or reviewer. )

#6 Posted by glitch2424 (897 posts) -

I'm not a fighting game fan, but I played it at a friends house today, and we did 1v1, and I must say it's pretty fun. I think it balances out how you can "out" characters/opponents. People are just WAY too used to brawl, which is reflective of how baised most reviewers are (eg, gametrailers). If some reviewers reviewed the game properly (with an open mind), they'd find it pretty fun. It didn't get that repetitive either, but mind you we only played it for an hour and a half with 4 different characters.

I think the game's weakness is actually the lack of features, both in hidden characters (there are none) and content. I didn't buy the game myself, but I would be mad too if I bought a game that had few (or completely absent) unlockables.

#7 Posted by glitch2424 (897 posts) -

Yupe, it's my favorite playstyle haha. Patience and mind games are really my type. I've been playing Hitman on purist so I'm not blitzing through it, but so far it's looking fantastic. Deus Ex: Human Revolution was amazing, and Dishonored is great.

finalserenade75

+1.

I'm the same, and i think this OCD (i think that's what you were referring to?) came when I challenged myself to get platinums to certain games.

Before my OCD came on, I use to play stealth games by pretty much by tranquilizing/killing everybody silently ("just in case"), but now I try to avoid enemies entirely whenever possible - so they're always patrolling. This OCD works great in stealth games, and yes, stealth games right now are by far my favourite genre of gaming (next to 3d mario games, which I classify as a genre by themselves b/c they're MUCH better than ALL other platformers). However, this OCD is the WORST in other games. Rayman Origins is supposed to be a fantastic came, but becomes infinitely frustrating when trying to collect most of those flying things. Oh well. But yes, I know where you're coming from. :) stealth all the way, man

#8 Posted by glitch2424 (897 posts) -

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But I HAVE given them highscores! But if anyone is being honest with themselves, they'd realize a game has to be absolutely PERFECT to be a 10. I deducted a bit from GTA4 b/c it does get repetitive and boring (good story, but same old mission structure - Cover mechanics and shooting felt good), and I deducted a bit from SMG2 b/c it simply lacked world cohesion and lacked exploration (which is weird, b/c all 3d mario games before the galaxy series had you explore the worlds, not go thru a linear level design, which the former could've made the game more fun).

I totally agree with your opinion though, that games given more effort should PROBABLY be given higher scores. But that's not always the case. The reason why COD series is so popular (especially with me, who only likes the infiinity ward games - not the treyarch games) is b/c they're FUN! And isn't that why we play games? I rate everything b/c of fun. I personally think it's good for players to realize what KIND of fun they're having, since you can have temporary cinematic fun (ie, uncharted), or real geniune fun, which usually occurs in multiplayer games that can create a riot with a group of people. There's also good single player fun, such as the elderscroll series, paper mario, or even some puzzle games.

H_M_1

Ahaha that's true friend, I will agree that a game does need to be perfect for a ten, but I guess it's one of those things where we say 'hang on, how do I know what's perfect?' We all have different takes on 'perfect'. GTA, MGS, Mario, Uncharted etc are games which most gamers enjoy, so maybe they're perfect? But then the gamer next door thinks these games suck, so what is perfect for him/her? Anyway, MGS4 was for me anyway 'perfect' I'm a fan of the mgs series as it is. I need to pick up the hd collection sometime.

Ahh, I see where you're coming from. I keep forgetting it's also in the eyes of the beholder, really.

I'd recommend the collection 100% - a good friend of mine actually bought it for my birthday. Judging from reviews from other collections, it's probably the best collection out there. It is somewhat incomplete though, b/c it totally lacks MGS1. Still, MGS1 can be obtained thru...*ahem*, other means.

#9 Posted by glitch2424 (897 posts) -

But I HAVE given them highscores! But if anyone is being honest with themselves, they'd realize a game has to be absolutely PERFECT to be a 10. I deducted a bit from GTA4 b/c it does get repetitive and boring (good story, but same old mission structure - Cover mechanics and shooting felt good), and I deducted a bit from SMG2 b/c it simply lacked world cohesion and lacked exploration (which is weird, b/c all 3d mario games before the galaxy series had you explore the worlds, not go thru a linear level design, which the former could've made the game more fun).

I totally agree with your opinion though, that games given more effort should PROBABLY be given higher scores. But that's not always the case. The reason why COD series is so popular (especially with me, who only likes the infiinity ward games - not the treyarch games) is b/c they're FUN! And isn't that why we play games? I rate everything b/c of fun. I personally think it's good for players to realize what KIND of fun they're having, since you can have temporary cinematic fun (ie, uncharted), or real geniune fun, which usually occurs in multiplayer games that can create a riot with a group of people. There's also good single player fun, such as the elderscroll series, paper mario, or even some puzzle games.

#10 Posted by glitch2424 (897 posts) -

Here is an honest review of the 'game', it shows how it stood up in 2008 and stands up in 2012.

http://au.gamespot.com/metal-gear-solid-4-guns-of-the-patriots/user-reviews/790668/platform/ps3/

RageQuitter69

I agree to a degree. In general, if you're thinking of stealth games and shooting games (OR hybrids!), MGS4 is not great at ANYTHING. In fact:

in terms of stealth: mark of ninja>splintercell conviction = splintercell chaos theory> MGS4
in terms of 3rd person shooting: every 3rd person shooter>MGS4

in terms of hybrid action: deus ex>dishonored>MGS4.

Recall, most of those games achieved (and deserved) their 8.5+ scores. MGS4 is simply below them, and out of general gameplay and FUN, i would rate MGS4 ~8.0.

MGS2 is simply the best playing of the series, and MGS3 the best story (alongside MGS1).

Now, if you're gonna play them in order, I would actually play the series in order of release: MGS1 (or get twin snakes for Gamecube if you can, which is an upgraded version of MGS1), MGS2, MGS3, MGS4.

And, to answer your question, I would say MGS4, GTA4, and to a slight degree, MarioGalaxy 2, are all overrated (no game really deserves a perfect score, especially those games, which, upon release, had a lot of hype that OBVIOUSLY influenced reviewers' opinions of the game). On that side note, I would rate GTA4 about a 8.5 or 9, and mario galaxy 9 or 9.5. And, like i said before, MGS4 is about an 8.