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#1  Edited By UpInFlames
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@The_Last_Ride said:

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@sukraj said:

I'll be playing this for the single player.

same here, i hope the story is good

Well, it's Bungie, so that's not likely. :)

i have never really been that into Halo, and never really played those games. So i haven't experience the singleplayer

Ah, I see. Well, to put it as diplomatically as possible, storytelling is not Bungie's forte. And seeing as how they exhibited zero progression from Halo: Combat Evolved to Halo: Reach, I have no reason to believe Destiny will be any different.

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@The_Last_Ride said:

@sukraj said:

I'll be playing this for the single player.

same here, i hope the story is good

Well, it's Bungie, so that's not likely. :)

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It will be possible, sure, but it will also most likely be lame because just like any other MMO it is being built from the ground up for multiple people. Loads of MMO's tried to have their cake and eat it, but they all failed in having a compelling single player element.

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@guynamedbilly said:

No one would say that HL2 wasn't an important or foundational game. Just because something did it first doesn't mean the ones that copied them didn't do it better. The title of the list is ambiguous to drive this kind of traffic, but I think most people would think they meant "best" games not "most important" games.

Agreed, but in this case, nobody did it better to this day.

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@ReddestSkies said:

People downplaying FTL for being "simple" don't understand gaming. I haven't played it yet (I know, I should), but would you complain if Pac-Man or Tetris made a "top whatever" list, because they're "simple"? Is Checkers a bad board game because it's "simple"?

The list sucks, but then again all lists suck. I give it a thumbs up for putting Homeworld 2 and XCOM on there, and many many thumbs down for naming 15+ RPG while disregarding Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines. And what's the deal with all these RPG and variants anyway?

The lack of STALKER also makes me sad. And the last good multiplayer FPS, Unreal Tournament 2004, is nowhere to be seen either. And seriously, there are way too many RPG on that list. How about naming at least one racer? And at least one adventure game? Syberia 2 came out in 2004 and nobody would disagree with that choice, if you're scared to go with something more obscure.

And the thing is, they're talking out of their asses because Faster Than Light is anything but simple. It's a classic example of easy to learn, but difficult to master. You have so many tactical options at your disposal, so many different strategies to use. Every single time you lose, you lose because you did something wrong. I haven't played a game in which you really have to think about so many things at the same time for years. It is just an amazing achievement in game design balanced to perfection.

I agree with S.T.A.L.K.E.R.: Shadow of Chernobyl.

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@Jacanuk said:

I know FTL struck a cord with a lot of gamers but on a more serious note, it does not deserve to be on that list.

And why exactly is that?

Faster Than Light is an extraordinary game with absolutely impeccable design.

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I agree with some things and disagree with others. I have no idea what people expect, they're never going to see a list that exactly mirrors their own.

Surprised to see Homeworld 2 at no.15, fantastic game. Team Fortress 2 is way too low on no.12. Awesome pick for Faster Than Light at no.9, it's an absolutely brilliant game and one of my all-time favorites. Civilization IV was fantastic, but Civilization V definitely surpassed it in my book. Company of Heroes and Skyrim are way too high.

Half-Life 2 at no.1, well can't go wrong with that one. A classic that has barely aged and feels more modern than 99% of first-person shooters that came out after it.

*vomits at BioShock at no.2*

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@lamprey263: Yeah, but that's an older trailer that I already posted here when it came out.

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@CarnageHeart said:

Not a surprise. A few weeks ago after she got straight As I asked my youngest what game she wanted and she said 'Minecraft'. I asked her how she knew about it and she told me all her friends were playing it and she had played it on a friend's Ipad mini. Right now she has a good sized farm going on.

I think the popularity of play/create/share among kids (and adults) is really awesome. My daughters didn't participate due to prior obligations, but our local library recently ran a competition in which kids learned about game design and then make a game using Kodu (a game creation program on the X360 and PC), with the winner(s?) being given some sort of prize.

And it's not just play/share/create games either. Yesterday I read a fascinating article about Early Access games (unfinished alpha or beta games that can be purchased) and how a new generation of gamers is very interested in being part of development and the growing pains of building a game. It was an Eurogamer article about Maia.

"What I've realised now, especially considering the Steam forums and some of the responses I get, is that there's a very young audience that have grown up, or been introduced to games as alpha games, with things like Minecraft. They're really interested in getting involved in the development. There's a kid on the forums who sends me an email every day of concept art he's drawn in Paint! And he's having a great time. It is a different way to do game development."

Personally, I never bought an Early Access game and I don't intend to, but it's fascinating to observe just how the gaming landscape is changing thanks to Kickstarter and Steam Greenlight. More and more people are prepared to fund/purchase unfinished games and choose to be involved in the development process. I think it's incredibly exciting as we are seeing a new breed of not only gamers, but potential game developers.

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@mordant221 said:

That would be impressive if the game was full price, but it costs as much as most iOS games. I paid $2 for it on PC

Um, it costs $20 on PC and 360. And it's an impressive number regardless of price.