[QUOTE="Rotondi"][QUOTE="B0Knows"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="B0Knows"]well when your in a position of leadership, you deserve more money for making the parts of a whole come together.Funkdaddy13

You do realize that the average CEO wage in relation to it's workers has skyrocketed right?

Back in the middle of the 1900's(don't remember when exactly), CEO's made 40x their average worker. Now-a-days? it's 400x as much as the average worker. This has gotten way out of hand. It's stuff like this that makes people go on strike, like the whole NWA thing.

if the workers wanted, they could start their own biz. They could get loans (as a group or alone) and try to get a new biz going. theres many ways to find venture capital.one of the degrees i hold is an entreprenuerial certificate from the university of iowa. (the other is finance)

see there you go again, talking abotu degrees from some university, you know how many people can't even get a chance to get a degree????, my brother has been trying to take out a loan for 2 years now to try to start a company, but they wont give it to him, no degree, and he doesn't own land...but im glad its all workin out great for you.....everyone look out for yourself, thats the way to live eh

work for the military? huh, are u a recruiter or somethin, he could also work for mcdonalds, doesn't change the fact that he can't get a loan to start a business. and a student loan?, wheres he gonna go to school, community college

[QUOTE="Rotondi"]dude, you don't need to get rid of money, i'm talking about communism, where you get paid the same. money still goes through the system, you can still buy a bmw, you can still buy the gaming computer that you always wantedFunkdaddy13

[QUOTE="Rotondi"]

dude, you don't need to get rid of money, i'm talking about communism, where you get paid the same. money still goes through the system, you can still buy a bmw, you can still buy the gaming computer that you always wanted

Total-KO

If you get paid the same, then goods will be of low quality because employees will have no incentive to better themselves or better their workrate, because no matter what they do they'll still get paid the same wage.

see you still can get fired if your not workin hard, or makin a crappy product. i mean even if your making shampoo or something like that, you don't put in the effort your done. and if people knew that money is not what makes u different from the next guy, then that wouldnt be an issue now would it

[QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="B0Knows"]well when your in a position of leadership, you deserve more money for making the parts of a whole come together.B0Knows

You do realize that the average CEO wage in relation to it's workers has skyrocketed right?

Back in the middle of the 1900's(don't remember when exactly), CEO's made 40x their average worker. Now-a-days? it's 400x as much as the average worker. This has gotten way out of hand. It's stuff like this that makes people go on strike, like the whole NWA thing.

if the workers wanted, they could start their own biz. They could get loans (as a group or alone) and try to get a new biz going. theres many ways to find venture capital.one of the degrees i hold is an entreprenuerial certificate from the university of iowa. (the other is finance)

see there you go again, talking abotu degrees from some university, you know how many people can't even get a chance to get a degree????, my brother has been trying to take out a loan for 2 years now to try to start a company, but they wont give it to him, no degree, and he doesn't own land...but im glad its all workin out great for you.....everyone look out for yourself, thats the way to live eh

see again here you go, you say money is waht makes you different fromt he next guy. HELLO PEOPLE you don't need to make more money then your neighbor to be better then him

You're wrong. We need currency to determine worth. If we don't then society cannot function efficiently and fairly. If that wasn't the case, then I guess I could just barter a chicken's egg for the New England Patriots.

dude, you don't need to get rid of money, i'm talking about communism, where you get paid the same. money still goes through the system, you can still buy a bmw, you can still buy the gaming computer that you always wanted

[QUOTE="Rotondi"][QUOTE="Funkdaddy13"][QUOTE="Rotondi"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Rotondi"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"]

My opinion:

Soicalism sucks, Communism sucks, even Capitalism sucks, it just sucks less

Funkdaddy13

my opinion:

Your opinion sucks

Your opinion on my opinion sucks....

theres only one thing i would die for, and thats communism

ya b/c all you brainwashed capitolists, who make the rich richer and the poor poorer, have ended any other idea of a different type of government

see again here you go, you say money is waht makes you different fromt he next guy. HELLO PEOPLE you don't need to make more money then your neighbor to be better then him

[QUOTE="Rotondi"][QUOTE="B0Knows"]

[QUOTE="artichoke"]If american's where known for generosity and they always took care of the poor then we wouldn't have the problem of poverty and wouldn't have to tax the heck out of everyone to take care of them. Seriusly it's because of people that have tons of money that they don't even use while there's ton's of people that don't have enough money to even feed themselves that the goverment starts doing stuff like that.B0Knows

you must be living under a rock or the most ignorant person in the world if you truly believe that.

We spend more money on other countries than any other nation. We actually GIVE OUR TROOPS to countries to fight terrorism. We give billions EACH and EVERY year to countries like sudan, iraq (we are paying a LOT for the reconstruction, it will be BETTER than it was before....), we give millions to countries to fight Aids in Africa, We pay for the drug war in Columbia.

We are hated for our genorosity.

they dont enough money to feed themselves because they dont organize. They dont capitalize. They dont work near as hard as americans. Americans work the most out of all nations in the world, short of china and japan. We take about 3 weeks off each year whereas Europeans take off an average of 7 weeks off. They are content with their standard of living. Americans CAME TO AMERICA for a better life. Its an innate trait that every American possesses.

did anyone ever think that maybe people in Africa are HAPPY WITH THEIR CURRENT STANDARD OF LIVING? I mean heck, they choose to keep it where it is at. the ones that don't can CHOOSE to make it better.

i wouldn;t say we are hated for are genoristy, and ur rigth the us does to a lot, and it probably does the most then any other country, as for helping third world countries. As for fighting terrosim, thats another issue, which i dont really agree with. and the last thing you said is completeley false as well, third world countries do not choose to keep there standard of living where its at, they are forced to and in many cases its getting worse. The rich countries keep getting richer and the poor keep getting poorer

We forced Indians to adapt to our standards of living, we forced them from their lifestyle of hunting and fishing every day. Thats not a bad life.

We are now forcing people from farms in Afica to "Improve their lives by working in factories"

Again, Anyone can get rich.The people who take the initiative, work for the education, take risks and get those risks to payoff are the ones who become rich.

Anyone who says the rich get richer and the poor get poorer dont realize that people who are rich realize being rich kicks butt and they want to stay that way and are less likely to SETTLE with being poor. people who are poor have a tendancy to just accept the status quo. The ones that don't end up rich or at least better off than before.

but the rich get richer argument makes me sick. its too played out. Gates wasnt rich when he started. he made himself.

[QUOTE="Rotondi"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="Rotondi"]money doesnt equal happiness buddy. why do you need more money to be better then the next guy, why do you care if some of your money goes to help someone that had no chance at an education or to ever recieve healthcare....does that really bother you? thats kind of sick manB0Knows

I have a problem with this, a few times this year I have struggled to pay rent on time, pay my credit card bill, even eat. I'm sick of supporting other people when I can barely support myself.

i hate to break ur little rant, but most of your money, isn't even going to welfare, its goin to the military, i would speak about lowering the amount of money going to war, before complaining about people on the street

sorry but almost half (47%) goes to the combined Medicare/Medicaid and social security, all forms of welfare.

huh, where do u get that from, fox news?, the highest percentage gos to military and its over 25%, which is absolutley rediculous, and another 20% goes to our debt, where about 3% goes to education. health care does get the third amount but that has nothing to do with welfare

[QUOTE="Rotondi"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"][QUOTE="Rotondi"][QUOTE="Def_Jef88"]

My opinion:

Soicalism sucks, Communism sucks, even Capitalism sucks, it just sucks less

Funkdaddy13

my opinion:

Your opinion sucks

Your opinion on my opinion sucks....

theres only one thing i would die for, and thats communism

ya b/c all you brainwashed capitolists, who make the rich richer and the poor poorer, have ended any other idea of a different type of government

[QUOTE="Rotondi"][QUOTE="DragonfireXZ95"]

[QUOTE="Rotondi"]money doesnt equal happiness buddy. why do you need more money to be better then the next guy, why do you care if some of your money goes to help someone that had no chance at an education or to ever recieve healthcare....does that really bother you? thats kind of sick manDragonfireXZ95

I have a problem with this, a few times this year I have struggled to pay rent on time, pay my credit card bill, even eat. I'm sick of supporting other people when I can barely support myself.

i hate to break ur little rant, but most of your money, isn't even going to welfare, its goin to the military, i would speak about lowering the amount of money going to war, before complaining about people on the street

It doesn't matter, some of it is still going to welfare. And the military in its state right now is just as bad, I don't want to pay for this bull****, we should pull out already or we're going to make Iraq pregnant with a bastard child.

Also, see this. CEO's make more money in one day then the average worker does in a year

i agree with ya man, taxes are rediculous, i mean thats why im a supporter of communism, and socialism. Ya you might be paying taxes for giving back to the government, but atleast everybody doesn't need to worry about missing this months rent, or how there going to pay for there surgery, or how to pay for food.