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#1 Ratsneve
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One of my favorite lines Ellie says I think at the last pallet...  Joel say, "Ellie...", and Ellie interrupts saying, "...I know...I know...get on the f--king pallet!"

I get so sick and tired of TV bleeping everything.  Can you imagine playing TLoU with all the 'bad' language bleeped?  I gather that the European version, along with no gore, leaves out the 'four-letter' words some of us love so much.  Must leave Europeans wondering how we can be such a polite people here in the U.S.A.?  ;)

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This is too much speculation for my taste. I believe he killed her because they had blood on them and he didn't trust them not to be infected. The simplest answer is usually the correct one.Odinyte
Agree.  But I don't think blood was even a factor.  They were using deadly force to contain an infected zone.  Recall the newspaper headlines Sarah sees in their bathroom (?)--so they did know what was going on even if not the full extent of it yet.  The soldier questioned his superior because of the child and it was clear then there were to be no exceptions and Joel and Sarah were in the wrong place at the wrong time.  He fired intending to kill both Joel and Sarah but in that burst where Joel swings around and falls trying to protect Sarah only Sarah ends up getting a fatal hit.  Simple.

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I posted it in another forum that it's just a creative liberty that we have to swallow.  It's a hard line to draw between gameplay and realism.  Obviously they wanted to enforce consideration of action dependant on your supplies, but saw that if every enemy was lootable that would be impossible. 

So they had to find a compromise.....some enemies can be looted for rounds, just not all.  I just delude myself into believing that those without any rounds, I killed at the moment they ran out.  Yea, yea, a little too much of a conincidence but the fiction works for me.  Besides, I wouldn't want hundreds of rounds, that would kind of defeat the purpose.  What would be cool is if Joel could loot ammo casings, primer, and rounds (in addition to all the other items) to create each different type of ammo.  The you'd have to decide which type to make before a fight.

What would've been neat also is if each enemy had anywhere from 5-20 shots themselves and could run out, and then melee combat (considering how good it is) would take over the slack.  Then firefights would be very brief and many engagements would end hand to hand.  Then they could've built a bit more upon the melee engine.  I'd be cool with that also.

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^^ That... and I am glad any party with Joel or Ellie was not a worry.  I sometimes early on moved my stealth position if I noticed Ellie out in the open.  Then I realized this was of no concern when an enemy would bump into her.  I felt grateful even on Easy.

[TLoU ND forum has been down most of the day and night for maintenance.  I say something bad happened.]

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You didn't play 3/4 thru or you would have  been introduced to a "good" black character ... Harold and his brother.slfite
Not Harold but Henry and his brother Sam.


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Unfortunately neither ended up fairing well but there were lessons learned for all on survival.  And at this same time in the adventure two other new characters were touched on...  Ish and Susan.  Maybe they will be of different races then white?  I for one hope to meet them and their story in a future episode or DLC.

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Online should be on a separate disk for a separate price and not attached to the SP game at all.

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Oh for Pete sake...  Both of you go replay and rethink the whole game.

First of all the soldier talking to his commander doesn't mention any blood but does mention the girl.  Secondly the soldiers are already playing up their superior attitude and control and are killing everything that moves outside of a quarantine zone or line they are apparently trying to establish.

However there might be a develish plan the military is up to if they are trying to reduce the overpopulated world as much as possible and accidentally or on purpose released the infection--maybe in preparation for an alien invasion from Mars?

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Nothing as good like it.  GameSpot should revise their review score 'up' because they are way off base imo.

Reviews don't seem to be able to properly handle games that mix it up between SP and MP like TLoU does.  This is a problem.  It was easy for me to give the game a SP rating of 10, but I paid no attention and had no interest in MP and I am pretty sure that MP is where a lot of the gripes stem from.  I'm also not interested in achievements or replay value.  Since the game is so linear and plays out the same each time; and except for the differences you can make in the battles there is really nothing to replay if you have taken your time and done a thorough job of it except for a couple trophies that aren't possible to complete in one game.  I needed a second game up to the university.  You can make your second game shorter if you fully upgrade the last weapons first.

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You aren't vaccinating (I thought it was 60%?) those infected to cure them...  you would want to vaccinate the 20 to 40% remaining who aren't infected yet to protect them.  Or, you keep them isolated from the spores so they don't become infected either in quarantine zones or by skill and luck if you're locked out of a quarantine zone.  I really doubt the effectiveness of gas masks the way they are used and re-used around spores.  I have to assume the spores die as soon as their concentration drops off?

One of the things that seems impossible though is food and water.  _Twenty years_ later and there is still enough food laying around in cans and bars and _drinking water_ isn't even mentioned?  I don't think so.  We don't yet know much detail at all about what the rest of the world beyond the path taken by Joel and Ellie.

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I tend to agree that more diversity would be nice but it doesn't make a great game just good because the authors didn't develop the story this way.  The real world struggles with this every day.  Maybe Naughty Dog's next episode will be more diverse?

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#10 Ratsneve
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There will always be those that just "dont get it"... its ok.  We forgive you. ;)Infinite_Access
Playing as Joel and Ellie now...near the end of TLoU, "We don't forgive these short sighted gamers."