im not really sure what everyones problem is with Win8.... if you want something, you just type the name. you dont even have to search for it with the mouse.
want your control panel? type control panel.
want battlefield 4? type battlefield 4
want display settings? type display settings
its just that easy.... what is the problem?
The problem is that people hate change. It's a normal human attribute.
Something can come along that is ten times better than what a person has, but that person will generally still choose the old item because they are used to it.
If Windows 8 had the normal menu, everybody would be using it and praising it (you can still get it like that with Start8). But they do a new menu and everybody goes crazy.
1. In any other case, I might agree with you. The biggest problems with 8 having nothing to do with the start menu. I also don't think start up speed is THAT much of a plus. Changing any setting, especially a BIOS setting, it harder than it needs to be. I don't know about 8.1, but with 8, it was impossible to reach the BIOS from start up on some systems with 8 pre-installed. 8 is hard to troubleshoot as it is, but not being able to access the BIOS right off is a serious problem.
no idea what you are even saying here.... windows has absolutely no bearing at all on your ability to access the BIOS. it does not stop you in any way.
2.DAMN IT SECUREBOOT
3. Windows 8's big advertised selling point was its ease of use. Anyone, including a computer illiterate, could use it. The commercials and advertising campaign try to point out things that ANY device can do as its advantages. It's like trying to sell a chair based on the fact that you can sit on it. The funny thing is that for any non-techie, Windows 8 is very difficult to use, let alone some techies, which also can have a hard time using it.
so basically you are complaining that they tried to make it more simple?
4. One of the biggest changes was copied from Linux, and done terribly. The way some things need to be opened in an entirely different kind of screen or interface is stupid. It doesn't add anything. It feels more like a gimmick than a feature.
you literally never have to use any of the windows apps that do this.... literally never.
5.Gesture Controls - D:<
gesture controls..... that work perfectly when used with a touch screen.... like they were meant to be used with?
6. The start menu. I know I just said I don't care about it. It's still inferior. It doesn't bug me, but it's still a flaw. The only thing it has going for it is synch between PC and mobile devices, which is what is was designed for. But even people that use it for that reason explicitly drop it almost immediately.
again, if you want something... just type the name. you dont have to navigate the start menu at all
7. The menu maze. If I ever want to change a setting, I need to navigate a labyrinth of menus that seem to explain nothing to a person that doesn't already know what they mean. These menus are only useful if you already know what all the information explains and where every link goes. Learning them wouldn't be a problem, if they didn't seem to lead you in a circle, helped you learn anything, or assisted you in any way before needing to search for HOW TO FIND whatever you were trying to find on the internet.
Really? Didn't deem this part necessary of your normally unnecessary instructions or tutorials Microsoft?
AGAIN.... if you want something... just type the name. you dont have to navigate a single menu
8. I need to send on online request to my Microsoft account.
9. The absence of a log out button. Oh sure, you can sign in to another account, but no accounts can actually sign out.
i can log out of my account right now.... im am literally staring at the logout button.... and yes, it does log me out when i use it.
10. It belongs to Microsoft. Yes, That's bad. I used to be a big Microsoft supporter, but man.... they've done a lot of "corporate bastard" style stuff in recent years and I only see it getting worse in the future. How are we ever supposed to trust this company ever again? Logical fallacy or personal preference, take your pick why I'm wrong and that isn't relevant. But you know it applies.
honestly no idea what you are going on about here...
11. Glitches and failures are rampant. I find a new reason to hate Windows 8 almost every week. I think I've found over 50 problems in the past the I KNEW where specifically 8's fault.
i have been on windows 8 for a year now.... i have not had a single crash. not even one. sounds like you need to learn how to not fuck up your computer.
12. IT WAS A BETA. MICROSOFT MADE YOU PAY FOR AN UNTESTED, UNFINISHED REHASH OF 7. Microsoft has officially stated that it was a beta.
no, they havent.... but keep on doing your thing mad guy.
I apoligize for one thing. I forgot to state I'm talking exclusively about PC's. Not mobile devices.
3. No. It doesn't bug me that they tried to make it more simple. It isn't really that much simpler anyway. I just thought it was funny that it's big thing in the advertising campaign was it's ease of use and simplicity, but how difficult of a time some people, including techies, that have had a hard time with it.
Example: "All those games you love? There right here in games." Because up until now, they never have been. And it's never been possible to make folder called Games before. It's never been possible to have a device with both word processors and games on it before. Those are all the amazing new advantages that Windows 8 offers.
4. You don't have too. I don't hate it as a feature, but again, it's sold as one of it's advantages, but it isn't.
5. I'm sure they're neat with a touch screen. But PC's were pre-installed with it, and if you don't have a mouse, the gesture controls are irritating. They aren't random. They actually always work, but when the gesture control just moving the mouse left or right ( an incredibly common occurrence) it happens when you don't want it to.
6. Just pointing out that the old start menu was better. I don't dislike it. I know you can type to search. There just isn't a reason why the option couldn't have been provided to switch to a normal start menu, if they were going to invest so much in the new start menu.
7. What if I don't where know where to find what I'm looking for? If I knew the gist of what I wanted to find, but didn't know exactly where it could be found? Maybe, you don't even know the keywords, but you'll know it when you see it. Normally, you find things by looking around. This is massively more difficult with Windows 8.
As far as the start menu's actual searching ability is concerned, 8 seemed to work much better than 8.1 8.1 seems to find only a select few objects from what you typed in. After hitting enter, a tab pops in a background window separate from the desktop. Not that big of a deal, but needing to close your search results is a step backwards.
8. Windows 8 requires that you send a request to your Microsoft account to change your password. You can change it Local mode, but it's makes the local user an entirely separate account from the online one. If you learn this after you've already invested plenty of time on it ( pretty likely), you either have to start fresh or transfer all your things and change all the setting again.
9. Ok, you got me on this one. There is indeed a log out button. But it's in a weird spot. It's in the top right corner of the start menu, separate from it's friends, the Shutdown, Restart, and Switch User. Why? It doesn't even say logout. It's just your profile pic and your name. I went a massive amount of time without knowing this, letting the other account bog me down when I didn't feel like shutting down. Other people had the same problem. Google it.
10. Too complicated. Not getting into it. Microsoft has made some....questionable decisions concerning how their customers. The Xbox One and Windows 8 being a beta are the most recent things. Yes. They did officially state it was a beta.
11. I think you missed the main point of the message. 11. I think I've found over 50 problems in the past the I KNEW where specifically 8's fault.
Admitted, some of glitches could have been coincidence, but a majority of them were not. It was glitchy. Because it was a beta.