ah well. thanks
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Hi. I only have full use of my right eye (glaucoma in my left eye), and I'm a bit confused about the technology of Oculus VR. For comparison, I usually don't go to 3D movies, because my lack of depth perception doesn't allow me to see the 3D effect. Will I have this same problem with virtual reality? Or can this device be used with just one of the binoculars? Thanks.
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@Mario2007: Can you provide any legitimate evidence of people choosing to change their sexual preference?
If by "legitimate evidence", you mean scientific findings, then no. I am by no means an expert. However, I look at the viewpoints and experiences from people like Cynthia Nixon and think that for some people, it is a choice. My old teacher was married for many years before changing his preferences after he divorced. I'm just willing to look at different views and say to myself, "Who am I to say that they didn't make a choice?" Or the other way around. I totally understand if you disagree with me, that's just the way I look at it.
Do you have any evidence that Cynthia Nixon or your teacher made a decision to change their sexuality?
" I'm just willing to look at different views and say to myself, "Who am I to say that they didn't make a choice?""
I'm willing to look at different views as well. That doesn't mean, however, that I'm willing to make decisions about the choices people have made with no evidence that their sexuality is a result of a choice.
Are you saying that they were gay the whole time and just "discovered their true sexuality" as some people would phrase it?
I'm not making any claims. I'm (again) simply asking you if you have any evidence that Cynthia Nixon or your teacher made a decision to change their sexuality?
Anyway, here's what Nixon has said about her relationship with a woman after being married to a man (emphasis mine): "I don't really feel I've changed. I'd been with men all my life, and I'd never fallen in love with a woman. But when I did, it didn't seem so strange. I'm just a woman in love with another woman."
No I don't have any evidence, it's their experience and not mine. But I also don't have any evidence to deny their claims, so how can I reject their view?
"I don't have any evidence"
Then why do you feel comfortable claiming that they made a choice to change their sexuality?
If you have noting to support your opinion that they made a choice about their sexuality other than you opinion then you really should realize that what you're saying makes no sense.
I haven't found any evidence to suggest it can't be a choice, so your logic would hold true if I felt oppositely. Because of this, it's really no big deal to me if someone says they are born one way or if someone says they made a choice. It doesn't matter. And I don't have evidence to support or deny either position. I'm not going to tell someone that they didn't make a choice, and that they were "born this way", because I have no experience or evidence to deny that claim.
"I haven't found any evidence to suggest it can't be a choice, so your logic would hold true if I felt oppositely. "
I haven't found any evidence that you have not raped numerous underage orphans to death. Does that mean that it's reasonable to believe that you have?
See, that's how evidence works. Simply because there is no evidence that you HAVE NOT done something doesn't mean that it's reasonable to believe that you HAVE done something.
I never made a claim to rape underage orphans, however. Obviously, some people claim to make a choice of sexual preference. If my friend tells me that he played chess yesterday, great. I have no evidence to believe that he did or didn't play chess yesterday, and he has no reason to lie. So why shouldn't I believe him?
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@Mario2007: Can you provide any legitimate evidence of people choosing to change their sexual preference?
If by "legitimate evidence", you mean scientific findings, then no. I am by no means an expert. However, I look at the viewpoints and experiences from people like Cynthia Nixon and think that for some people, it is a choice. My old teacher was married for many years before changing his preferences after he divorced. I'm just willing to look at different views and say to myself, "Who am I to say that they didn't make a choice?" Or the other way around. I totally understand if you disagree with me, that's just the way I look at it.
Do you have any evidence that Cynthia Nixon or your teacher made a decision to change their sexuality?
" I'm just willing to look at different views and say to myself, "Who am I to say that they didn't make a choice?""
I'm willing to look at different views as well. That doesn't mean, however, that I'm willing to make decisions about the choices people have made with no evidence that their sexuality is a result of a choice.
Are you saying that they were gay the whole time and just "discovered their true sexuality" as some people would phrase it?
I'm not making any claims. I'm (again) simply asking you if you have any evidence that Cynthia Nixon or your teacher made a decision to change their sexuality?
Anyway, here's what Nixon has said about her relationship with a woman after being married to a man (emphasis mine): "I don't really feel I've changed. I'd been with men all my life, and I'd never fallen in love with a woman. But when I did, it didn't seem so strange. I'm just a woman in love with another woman."
No I don't have any evidence, it's their experience and not mine. But I also don't have any evidence to deny their claims, so how can I reject their view?
"I don't have any evidence"
Then why do you feel comfortable claiming that they made a choice to change their sexuality?
If you have noting to support your opinion that they made a choice about their sexuality other than you opinion then you really should realize that what you're saying makes no sense.
I haven't found any evidence to suggest it can't be a choice, so your logic would hold true if I felt oppositely. Because of this, it's really no big deal to me if someone says they are born one way or if someone says they made a choice. It doesn't matter. And I don't have evidence to support or deny either position. I'm not going to tell someone that they didn't make a choice, and that they were "born this way", because I have no experience or evidence to deny that claim.
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@Mario2007: Can you provide any legitimate evidence of people choosing to change their sexual preference?
If by "legitimate evidence", you mean scientific findings, then no. I am by no means an expert. However, I look at the viewpoints and experiences from people like Cynthia Nixon and think that for some people, it is a choice. My old teacher was married for many years before changing his preferences after he divorced. I'm just willing to look at different views and say to myself, "Who am I to say that they didn't make a choice?" Or the other way around. I totally understand if you disagree with me, that's just the way I look at it.
Do you have any evidence that Cynthia Nixon or your teacher made a decision to change their sexuality?
" I'm just willing to look at different views and say to myself, "Who am I to say that they didn't make a choice?""
I'm willing to look at different views as well. That doesn't mean, however, that I'm willing to make decisions about the choices people have made with no evidence that their sexuality is a result of a choice.
Are you saying that they were gay the whole time and just "discovered their true sexuality" as some people would phrase it?
I'm not making any claims. I'm (again) simply asking you if you have any evidence that Cynthia Nixon or your teacher made a decision to change their sexuality?
Anyway, here's what Nixon has said about her relationship with a woman after being married to a man (emphasis mine): "I don't really feel I've changed. I'd been with men all my life, and I'd never fallen in love with a woman. But when I did, it didn't seem so strange. I'm just a woman in love with another woman."
No I don't have any evidence, it's their experience and not mine. But I also don't have any evidence to deny their claims, so how can I reject their view?
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@Mario2007: Can you provide any legitimate evidence of people choosing to change their sexual preference?
If by "legitimate evidence", you mean scientific findings, then no. I am by no means an expert. However, I look at the viewpoints and experiences from people like Cynthia Nixon and think that for some people, it is a choice. My old teacher was married for many years before changing his preferences after he divorced. I'm just willing to look at different views and say to myself, "Who am I to say that they didn't make a choice?" Or the other way around. I totally understand if you disagree with me, that's just the way I look at it.
Do you have any evidence that Cynthia Nixon or your teacher made a decision to change their sexuality?
" I'm just willing to look at different views and say to myself, "Who am I to say that they didn't make a choice?""
I'm willing to look at different views as well. That doesn't mean, however, that I'm willing to make decisions about the choices people have made with no evidence that their sexuality is a result of a choice.
Are you saying that they were gay the whole time and just "discovered their true sexuality" as some people would phrase it?
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@Mario2007: Can you provide any legitimate evidence of people choosing to change their sexual preference?
If by "legitimate evidence", you mean scientific findings, then no. I am by no means an expert. However, I look at the viewpoints and experiences from people like Cynthia Nixon and think that for some people, it is a choice. My old teacher was married for many years before changing his preferences after he divorced. I'm just willing to look at different views and say to myself, "Who am I to say that they didn't make a choice?" Or the other way around. I totally understand if you disagree with me, that's just the way I look at it.
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@Mario2007: You honestly feel that you could make yourself be attracted to men if you wanted?
Honestly I do, it's an idea I've struggled with for some time.
If you can make the decision about what you're attracted to then why struggle? Just make up your mind.
I probably wouldn't "change". I guess what I'm saying, for example, is if I ever experienced a bad end to a relationship and it really scarred me... I could make a choice to experiment with the same sex. There are many stories of people who change sexual preference due to a traumatic experience. I'm not saying I could easily flip a switch or anything.
"I could make a choice to experiment with the same sex."
That's not what we're talking about. Choosing to partake in a sexual act is not the same as choosing to change ones sexual orientation.
Fair enough, that's why I stated I struggle with the idea because I'm not sure what true "change" is, simply because I have always been straight. I believe we are initially born one way or the other. However, I'm willing to respect the testimonies of people who claim to have changed sexual preference midway through their life. There is a matter of choice involved for some people.
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@Mario2007: You honestly feel that you could make yourself be attracted to men if you wanted?
Honestly I do, it's an idea I've struggled with for some time.
If you can make the decision about what you're attracted to then why struggle? Just make up your mind.
I probably wouldn't "change". I guess what I'm saying, for example, is if I ever experienced a bad end to a relationship and it really scarred me... I could make a choice to experiment with the same sex. There are many stories of people who change sexual preference due to a traumatic experience. I'm not saying I could easily flip a switch or anything.
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@Mario2007: You honestly feel that you could make yourself be attracted to men if you wanted?
Honestly I do, it's an idea I've struggled with for some time.
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