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#2 Jacanuk
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@LJS9502_basic said:
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@Jacanuk: How much are you paid to defend everything trump does?

Funny, how much are you paid to be you?

Hey I should be paid but you are like a bot here. Ignoring facts and defending every single thing he does. Plus I know you aren't American from your posts but you pretend to be.

I don´t ignore facts, what I do ignore are red herrings and anecdotal evidence and hyperboles and the normal TDS

And you keep claiming this, the novelty factor of that claim is kinda wearing thin.

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Why do assume such things? They are not correlations dude.

It´s a confirmed tactic by numerous sources

Stealing an election legally via ‘ballot harvesting’

By Pamela Prichard
Sunday, December 30th, 2018 at 12:02am

California Democrats “stole” the midterm election using a new method that is illegal elsewhere, but completely legal in the Golden State: a practice called “ballot harvesting,” which allows third parties to submit mail-in ballots for voters.

It sounds “bizarre,” as outgoing Speaker of the House Paul Ryan (R-WI) described it to the Washington Post – but it is absolutely true: Democratic operatives handed in pile after pile of other people’s ballots.

And Democrats are proud of it, mocking Republicans for failing to take advantage of a new law signed by Governor Jerry Brown in 2016, over GOP objections, that allows “ballot harvesting,” and which some Republicans are now blaming for their defeat … .

“Ballot harvesting” by Democratic Party operatives – a surprise tactic they likely saved for the general election – appears to have made the difference. The San Francisco Chronicle reported that Democrats ran a disciplined, door-to-door campaign offering to deliver voters’ ballots to the polls:

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@LJS9502_basic said:

@Jacanuk: One...…...that page doesn't load properly. Two...…..show me what he did because as I recall he just went to rallies and said it would be over by April, it was just a flu, etc.

Hmm, strange loads fine here.

But

Cuomo: New York Quarantine Would Be ‘Federal Declaration Of War’

Updated: 8:30 p.m. EST, March 28, 2020)

Topline: Following reports that President Trump was considering an “enforceable quarantine” of the tri-state area, New York Governor Andrew Cuomo said in an interview with CNN on Saturday night that such a tactic was of questionable legality and would amount to no less than a “federal declaration of war.”

  • "It would be chaos and mayhem," Cuomo told CNN’s Ana Cabrera, when first asked about Trump’s proposed quarantine. "It's totally opposite everything he's been saying. I don't think it is plausible. I don't think it is legal."
  • “A lockdown is what they did in Wuhan, China,” Cuomo said. “We’re not in China, and we’re not in Wuhan… I believe it would be illegal.”
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@LJS9502_basic said:

@Jacanuk: How much are you paid to defend everything trump does?

Funny, how much are you paid to be you?

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@Jacanuk: Yes you're absolutely right. We're talking about projected hundreds of thousands (minimum) deaths if nothing was done but you are spot on. I can see how much you must be unhappy with trump for caving to the left. He's so weak right?

Yes, Trump is weak like the democrats are.

As I have said countless times, this courtesy lockdown is not what should have been done ages ago.

Sure, I will grant that it does seem to have worked partially, but if Trump at the beginning of March or even sooner, had done like in Europe, and closed down the country and imposed martial law, we could have been at a point like some European countries, where we slowly could begin to open up after easter.

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@Vaasman said:
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At it's current rate, Covid-19 will be surpassing the deaths of the 2009 H1N1 outbreak in America, by the end of today.

Still

CDC estimates that influenza was associated with more than 35.5 million illnesses, more than 16.5 million medical visits, 490,600 hospitalizations, and 34,200 deaths during the 2018–2019 influenza season.

We'll be past that point in another month, don't worry.

Let´s hope not.

I sure as ..... hope we will stay way below that number.

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@zaryia said:
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Following legal precedent is a GOP scam!!

In an unprecedented situation...

Why do you want those voters to risk their lives?

Why do you want to allow for ballot harvesting? and cheating?

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@Jacanuk: I love how you go from "It's not a conflict of interest", to "a small conflict of interest isn't a big deal".

You flip like a phone book. Kinda like Trump.

if there isn’t a lot of science behind it, because it is, at this point, the best, most available option for use.”

In the conservative "science is bad" fantasy land this might be an endorsement, but in reality it's not. Drugs undergo rigorous scrutiny and testing before hitting the market. The end. If you were informed on the topic (or science and general), you'd understand this.

And for the record, I really hope HCQ is a viable treatment. But it doesn't seem to be.

Until than, I'm sure someone will do some investigative reporting on Trump's medical interests abroad. I'll stay tuned. Of course he could just disclose his finances, submit himself to audit and release his tax returns...but he won't. Funny how conservatives keep glossing over that he obviously has many things to hide.

@horgen

Oh, is he actually a right wing troll? I honestly thought he was serious.

Point to where I acknowledge there is any kind of conflict? until you provided that link, the debate was about you providing the actual credible evidence.

Also, I didn´t say there was a small anything, or even acknowledged there being any kind of conflict, since there isn't one.

So flip where?

It's comical how conservatives who absolutely have blasted the scientific community for decades on climate change, toxicology, and healthcare are so suddenly clamoring to be experts or have any say in the process whatsoever. It was all fake news a couple months ago, wasn't it?

I don't care how many anecdotes you find (or misconsture), until there is a peer reviewed pilot study that passes into clinical testing, and is finally approved, this drug isn't a treatment, it's a hail Mary.

Link to where I have ever "blasted the scientific community" for anything? considering you are "new" here, i will grant you some leeway with the google searching.

Also, no one claims that it´s the all or nothing cure, the doctors are saying it has an effect, Trump is relaying that in his press-briefings like today with the story about the democratic politician who decided to try it out and got well.

So shouldn´t the doctors tell about something that can have an effect? because I sure as hell think they should if there is even the smallest chance it can save a life, it should, however, be controlled 100% by medical professionals.

Until than, I'm sure someone will do some investigative reporting on Trump's medical interests abroad. I'll stay tuned. Of course he could just disclose his finances, submit himself to audit and release his tax returns...but he won't. Funny how conservatives keep glossing over that he obviously has many things to hide.

Let´s hope so if Trump has a significant stake in a french company, he should, of course, be impeached for that and shipped to the Gulag or have a haircut by the guillotine.

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Yes, the majority laid out a very technocratic answer for why we should follow the precedent they made up in previous rulings that came up after they unilaterally eliminated some provisions of the Voting Rights Act. My whole point is that there is no legal precedent for the situation. We shut down most of the country over a global pandemic. Are the minority expected to cite a precedent for something that hasn't happened before? And if the shelter in place order is not a good enough reason to extend an election deadline, what is? None of this is defined because this isn't a law.

The court keeps falling back on this it's too close to the election to interfere with it, but it's rare that wouldn't be the case. The judicial system moves slowly, and by the time these cases reach the Supreme Court it's usually going to be close to the election in question. Seem to be saying states that if they change voting laws at the right time, they are guaranteed to get away with it.

If you call laying out a text-book legal argument "technocratic" answer sure,

And yes the minority should cite legal backing for their judgment, if there isn't any precedent to back it up, then this is not for the courts but for the lawmakers in Wisconsin or the US Congress to legislate on.

That is why we have a separation of power, which I know democrats have a very very hard time acknowledging.

Also as to the judgment itself, the majority is of course right, there should not be anyone for voting after the 7th, it´s like the democratic trick, ballot harvesting, which is a well know democratic trick.