You are either incompetent or a goonish liar.
#177 Zaryia (5623 posts) - 16 hours, 58 minutes ago
#200Zaryia (5622 posts) - 36 minutes, 10 seconds ago
Well, it´s not easy to follow the posts when they get edited on the fly.
@zaryia said:
Only ~26% of this country is Republican. Most (R) voting for those issues doesn't change overall national views on those issues. When adding (D) and (I), more Americans agree with the ideals I linked.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/15370/party-affiliation.aspx
Still, many are not single issue voters though. And for single issue voters, YOU would have show how many votes were gained or lost to those specific issues, each. It's your theory. Prove it. You aren't offering any studies on this.
Yes, 26% is republican and 27% is Democrat the rest is independent. but 238 seats out of 435 are republican and 51 out of 100 seats in the Senate is Republican. And if you look at the two independent, Democrats only have 47.
But if we look at the independent voters, it´s interesting to see that 44% seen themselves as independent which normally means they go with the ideas they feel the strongest for. Which would mean they could go for a single issue, which they don't, the independent tend to follow either of the two main sides.
@zaryia said:
What do you mean and. It doesn't accurately reflect the entire national opinion if a certain side has lower turn out.
Well, i mean that if your premise is that there is A: More democrats but because of lower turnout, the fewer Republicans are allowed to vote in their candidate. That it must mean that these Democrats do not care enough to vote, which make their opinion moot.
@zaryia said:
The last few presidential elections. The Democrat had more votes, and that is with lower turn out. Reflecting those ideas were more popular, although you can't look at this alone due to many people not being just single issue voters and (D) having lower turn out.
Sure, but as we have seen since Obama, the presidential election is a popularity contest, no one cares about the issues which especially Trump´s ability to win shows. So using the presidential election results as an argument is moot.
If you look at the local state government, Republicans have 31 States, Democrats have 14. and 4 is split. And only 6 states have a democratic controlled 3 level government, Guess which ones (California, Hawaii, Oregon, Rhode Island, Connecticut, Delaware) Hold only 15 governorships, Republicans hold 33.
@zaryia said:
Yes you do need to find a peer reviewed study when making bold claims. You're posting a wild theory you churned up on your own. I'm posting facts and data that state exactly what I'm stating. You aren't giving me a study actually showing that (D) lost seats due to those specific issues alone. Or that (D) is general has less voters due to these issues. That is your theory. You think all those polls are wrong, you must prove this with data. Those polls use data.
And you are losing this debate for it.
I am stating facts, I do not need someone else's opinion to back anything up, we are dealing with objective facts here, it´s a fact that there are a 100 senators, 51 of those are republican, 47 is democratic, it´s a fact that as stated above that by far the republicans are in control in most state governments.
So if you refute them, you are refuting empirical data. And if you claim to win a debate by refuting empirical data, you clearly never attended or watch a debate in high school, university or at any educational level. Unless of course you are not born in America and have had your basic education in another country.
@zaryia said:
Polls are not opinions. They look at opinions, and use statistical measures and scientific methodology. The pollsters I am using are highly accurate, and I use multiple of each for each issue.
You have not refuted any of them yet with citation.
Now you are moving the goal post, The polls are done by empirical methods, but the data it collects are opinions so the end result will be an opinion,
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