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#1 Jacanuk
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What a strange thread but to play along a bit

Let´s ask the Oxford Dictionary.....

A Cake is "An item of soft sweet food made from a mixture of flour, fat, eggs, sugar, and other ingredients, baked and sometimes iced or decorated."

A Pie is "A baked dish of fruit, or meat and vegetables, typically with a top and base of pastry."

So I don´t know how you make a cheesecake but if you use a base of pastry you are doing it wrong.

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@KungfuKitten said:

Aren't conservatives typically the people who want to widen the gap between rich and poor further? Or who don't really care about that because 'being poor is their own fault for not trying' and all that stuff? I think that's kind of exactly what the yellow vests don't want.

Hmm, could you be more wrong.

Conservatives are not about widening the gap between Rich and poor, it´s about personal responsibility, if you work hard you also deserve to get the most out of your hard work.

Not like Liberals who seem to be for no borders and mass illegal immigration because they dream of a world where reality does not exist and that massive illegal immigration is just making the country they pour into poorer and cost Legal Americans their job and also is the cause of low wages that is just making people poorer, because living cost is not going down.

And that is the biggest problem which you also see on this forum, people are angry at others because they do not succeed in life, instead of working hard and finding ways to get to a comfortable spot.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
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@horgen said:

@Jacanuk: With the troops leaving. Is there any plans for what do forward or is Syria left to its own?

trump has no plans. He's giving it to Russia.......

You mean like Clinton and Obama had zero plans and did not dare actually follow through on their promises to the rebels. (not that it´s a bad thing since Assad is what will keep Syria at peace)

LOL when all you have is whataboutism..........I hope Santa drops some facts in your stocking this year.

Funny coming from someone who should try to hold up a mirror.

But don´t worry I know you have a bad case of the DTS.

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#4 Jacanuk
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@Shewgenja said:

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-brutal-stock-market-rout-mirrors-the-1987-crash-in-1-important-way-2018-12-21

https://thehill.com/policy/finance/422531-dow-suffers-worst-week-since-2008-financial-crisis

The hits just keep coming, ya'll. Are we tired of winning, yet?

So when it´s up, you claim it´s not Trump but when it´s down it´s because of Trump.

Can you figure out what you guys think?

But for the record this is and always will be out of Trump´s direct control, the market reacts to the current political situation.

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@horgen said:

@Jacanuk: no medical or aid? I mean the West kinda fucked it up for them. Should give the people some humanitarian help even if the troops pull out.

Not unless the rebels suddenly get in control. Especially Europe has gone hard in on being Anti-Assad so they can´t really suddenly back him with Aid even medical.

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@LJS9502_basic said:
@horgen said:

@Jacanuk: With the troops leaving. Is there any plans for what do forward or is Syria left to its own?

trump has no plans. He's giving it to Russia.......

You mean like Clinton and Obama had zero plans and did not dare actually follow through on their promises to the rebels. (not that it´s a bad thing since Assad is what will keep Syria at peace)

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@horgen said:

@Jacanuk: With the troops leaving. Is there any plans for what do forward or is Syria left to its own?

Assad has this in the bag so to speak, so no there are no plans to support the rebels anymore other than with good thoughts.

Which is the best thing and hopefully in a few years Syria will be a place where peace and tranquillity rules?

It will be interesting though to see how Turkey and Assad deal with the Kurds since they are allies with the US.

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@MirkoS77 said:
@Jacanuk said:

This is not about isolation. This is about acknowledging that we have lost enough American lives in the fight against people who see us as invaders and not liberators. By staying there and fighting in Syria we only make things worse since the only way to stop them is to let Assad get back in power, remember before Syria was seen as the jewel of the middle east and was pretty peaceful until we and the world decided that we know best and got too cocky for our own good like normal, after all, Gaddafi was a win even though the country is destroyed and are now filled with ISIS cells and civil war.

But since you are ok with fighting futile wars, I have to ask how many American soldiers are ok to lose? before you can see the light and that by staying it´s just making it far far worse.

And this is nothing to do with Trump, we got into Iraq on false pretences, we bombed Libya back to the stone age and people lost their lives because of it, and remember Manchester? Enough is Enough and Trump may be a tool, but he is the first who says the wise thing , we need to leave the middle east and stop trying to force our way of life on them.

You sound like a liberal.

"Invaders and not liberators"? ISIS?? Have you even seen the videos from these people??? They're monsters, they are the epitome of evil. Let's not equate this to the Iraqis wanting us out of their country because we're invading them under the pretense of liberation. "Trying to force our way of life on them"? Again, ISIS? Uh, hello? Are you for real? We're doing (or at least, we were before Trump) everything in our power to stop them from trying to do the same to us. This isn't about liberation or trying to "force" our way of life on others, this is about combating an abhorrent ideology that transcends geography in its hatred and desire for the utter destruction and eradication of western values. Civilized society would cease to exist if ISIS had their way.

I don't believe we should be anywhere imposing our own lifestyle and values upon others, but with regards to ISIS, this isn't about that. These people are out of their minds, they're unconscionable barbarians, go onto bestgore and see for yourself. And right now, you can be assured they're celebrating our withdrawal. If you honestly believe that pulling out is going to quell their desire to crush us and the values we stand for because we're no longer "imposing" our lifestyle on them, boy, you are beyond naive and ignorant. All we will be doing by Trump's mandate is inviting them to bring the battle to our shores instead of fighting it on theirs. And then what will you do when our blood is shed by your own myopia? Predictably blame Democrats or bring about a new "whataboutism", as you typically do to shift blame for your own irresponsibility to excuse nothing but your own blind partisan hackery.

I am just a rationalist.

Do you know what created ISIS? They did not come out of the blue air, it came because the west decided to meddle in things that was not theirs to meddle in. Syria was a jewel until Europe and US thought it was fun to tell some people that if they rebelled against the "evil" dictator they would help and considering what happened in Libya it´s no wonder , these people thought "Hey lets go for it" Even though Gaddafi was the only thing keeping the various factions in check. And removing Gaddafi only revealed the tensions and massive internal problems.

So again how many American lives are enough? how long do you want us to stay because again as you saw with Manchester, our presence only create these terrorists, so maybe again it´s about time we stop trying to bomb people into the stone age and stop creating situations that just create more hate. And ISIS will come to Ameria or Mainland Europe no matter what, so perhaps it´s about time we build a "wall" and let the middle east alone.

So you can´t come and say ISIS need to be defeated because we can never get rid of them, the only people who can get rid of these extremists are the people living every day in these countries when they lose the populations support they will also slowly vanish. Again look at the Taliban, And i do not blame the Democrats, I blame Bush for bringing us into a war in Iraq on false pretences and I blame every single president and politician after Bush, for not stopping the mad idea that we can make people love democracy.

But i get it you hate republicans and conservatives so much that reason is lost on you, so when Trump finally says something valuable, it get´s lost because the hatred is so strong that you have blinds on.

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#9 Jacanuk
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@MirkoS77 said:
@Jacanuk said:
@MirkoS77 said:

Trump’s an idiot. Further weakening our country every second he remains, only to the cheers of his mindless sycophant followers.

Hey Trump supporters, great idea! Let’s let ISIS grow in strength. Mission accomplished! Traitors.

So how is it going with the Taliban? are they gone? have they vanished? and how long is it we have been there,

But I guess you are ok with staying in Syria forever right? Because Trump is correct, we have done what is needed so far and now it´s up to Assad and Russia to wipe the floor with the remaining rebels and ISIS.

I thought Trump said ISIS has been defeated? Or is it now "leave it to Russia/Assad"? Your orange doofus can't even keep his own narrative straight long enough for you to predicate any valid argument upon.

What I'm ok with is fighting a vicious and hateful ideology over there so they won't bring it here. The fight against an ideology is never ending as you cannot eradicate it, only take steps to mitigate it. You, along with Trump, seem to be fine withdrawing to our own borders to defend ourselves (all the while abandoning our allies to potential slaughter), I am for being proactive in stopping it where it arises while building and maintaining alliances.

You and every Trump supporter believe that isolationism makes us stronger. It doesn't, it actively weakens us. But keep it up!

This is not about isolation. This is about acknowledging that we have lost enough American lives in the fight against people who see us as invaders and not liberators. By staying there and fighting in Syria we only make things worse since the only way to stop them is to let Assad get back in power, remember before Syria was seen as the jewel of the middle east and was pretty peaceful until we and the world decided that we know best and got too cocky for our own good like normal, after all, Gaddafi was a win even though the country is destroyed and are now filled with ISIS cells and civil war.

But since you are ok with fighting futile wars, I have to ask how many American soldiers are ok to lose? before you can see the light and that by staying it´s just making it far far worse.

And this is nothing to do with Trump, we got into Iraq on false pretences, we bombed Libya back to the stone age and people lost their lives because of it, and remember Manchester? Enough is Enough and Trump may be a tool, but he is the first who says the wise thing , we need to leave the middle east and stop trying to force our way of life on them.

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#10 Jacanuk
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@blackballs said:

But I imagine the answer to your own question is Trump is right everybody else including his generals are wrong. DERP DERP DERP*

Of course and we won Vietnam as well.

Anything else you want to say that is completely out there?