Hello. I say it's worth it. Since your getting a 4 GB slim, I'd suggest looking into getting a HDD for it. Especially if you want to install games to it, but the install isn't mandatory. The newer Xbox Slim models, wich you'll be getting, sounds like their more reliable. It was the old Fat white Xbox 360's that had the breaking issues and the like.

The HDD there's different sizes out there, so pick one that's based on what your needs are and what you want to do. Naturally lol. If your going to install and uninstall games, get a ton of dlc and stuff from Xbox live, and such, then the bigger ones would be best. But if your just going to play games and install once inawhile, small to medium hdd's should do I think. I have a 60 gig hard drive and installed fallout 3, and it ended up being 6.6 gigs and it's like, "ok won't be doing that to often." So yeah.

Only Systems that do have a mandatory install is the PS3 console wise, and as we all know, PC. Other then that, only other consideration is if your wanting to play multiplayer online and such. If so, Xbox Live Gold is 60 a year, and like 25 for 3 months, and like 10 or something a month. But you can always find deals and such on amazon, walmart, Xbox market place thingy, and other stores and such. Right now I'm working on getting enough bing credits to get a month of Gold. Also, alot of people prefer Xbox live Gold over playstation's online network, but t's more of a personel preference and such.

Other then that, there's a ton of great games for it and such. If you like that elder scrolls game, then you might want to look into fallout 3, and Oblivion. Maybe dragon age series. But yeah, rock on.

Rock on and keep gameing.

So far just one. Fight Night: Round 3. Close with Assasins Creed, Bioshock, and Condemned but havn't gotten around to that yet lol. End up with to many other games to play or things to do, doh.

Hello. I say that the online pass on top of the gold membership would/does suck. I don't have gold and don't play games online n' couldn't if I wanted to. But the pass makes sense for multiplayer in the sense that it helps bring in money, that can be used to help keep the servers going. The part that I dissagree with for the EA's, and other companys, online pass is when it starts affecting single player content. Wich it has with Rage and Batman: Arkham City.

Main reason I find the single player part unfair and unreasonable, is because not every gamer has the internet. Not due to lack of money, but with location's and other various reasons. Also the fact that not everyone can afford new games, so they go towards used or rent from gamefly or something. That or wait for the price to drop wich is what I usually do. But if I could play games online, probably a good idea to pick up the used copys up at gamestop. Consdering they give you the pass and such when you pick up new or used.

All that I can think of now, rock on and keep gameing.

I would say get the 4GB w/Kinect, then pick up a HDD later on. I'm pretty sure Fable 3 has come down in price, and you can always pick up Halo reach later on to.

Don't know about 2k4, but loaded up UT99 a few nights ago and found a few ppl on. Was pretty late though so yeah. And found that finding games and servers was pretty easy. The new UT, unreal tournament 3, I have it for the 360 and last time I played there were always ppl in unranked match's on it. Hard to find anyone that plays ranked on there, but it was still pretty nifty.

Rock on and keep gamein'.

This is what I think about it. For MP it's not so bad if you don't care about being online, or don't have access to the internet. But if more of this continues like what they did with Batman Arkham City, then people are being screwed. It's not just the used game market that their shafting, but even people that buy the new games. Yes new games.

Alot of you are saying "well, tough luck, dosn't affect me". Good for you, clap clap. But what about the 69.8 percent of the world without the internet? They buy these games new, even pre order. But these people get screwed out of single player content now. Only a few percent of console owners actually do have internet access. Possibly 1/3rd or something like that. So if more companys take out single player content to get their buck, and screw over ppl that buy new, then it's wrong.

If you want to buy new or used, it's your choice. But if people that buy new and/or used, are getting screwed on content, then it's gone to far. Feel for those fellow gamers that are out there getting screwed for buying new games without net. And feel for those gamers that don't have the buck to buy new all the time, and consider gameing as a h/c hobby.

Barf Ball out.