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@Hunter1428 It's a collection that is utterly useless online, which is absolutely unacceptable when being released at full retail.The single player is just an
upgraded version mainly in resolution (which naturally increases visual fidelity) and framerate. I'm actually glad reviewers are starting to reflect that releasing broken ass games at launch is unacceptable.


I love Halo, but you can't keep allowing it to survive criticism by living on its past successes. Yes, it's a collection with improvements but the multiplayer does not work and that is a huge issue for this type of game. Imagine CoD not having working multiplayer?

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@LightEffect I agree. To be honest when I saw the DR3 gameplay demo a few months ago, it looked a bit choppy with framerate drops. It looks like they haven't really improved it that much performance-wise.

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@TheOnlyConan Yes, because clearly you playing on a steady framerate at that resolution is the price of a current gen console....

I find a longer gen cycle, that maximizes the potential out of the console's hardware everytime, is much better for gaming development in general.

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Let's be realistic here, the launch lineup from third party games on any console are never a huge improvement over the last-gen equivalent. They have little tweaks and minor graphical improvements and that's it.

Look at the 360 for instance, King Kong, FIFA, NBA, Tony Hawks, Quake 4 were not majorly impressive. And yet on the same console years later, you achieve games like GTAV, Forza, Gears, Halo 4, Bioshock and even CoD.

Developers become use to a specific hardware (i.e., 360, PS3/4) and achieve better results over time.

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@bruta You're missing the point. At no point did the review say origins is awful in singleplayer. It's identical to Arkham City - She states it as a solid game but no innovation which is the major criticism (and good for criticising it aswell). CoD's multiplayer can be fun but it is also unchanged and has lacked innovation since Modern Warfare and WaW (for Zombies). Not to mention the single player experiences just being a Micheal Bay action sequence for 4 hrs. I play CoD and BF every so often but lets not kid ourselves when it comes to innovation.

Hence, why people are expecting more critical reviews towards CoDs and BF titles.

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@jedediahpelland Unfortunately this is the predicament Gamespot has put itself it in.

By not criticizing enough games like AC, CoD and even Battlefield for little innovation and still allow them to receive moderately high scores, whereas this is criticized for the same thing but is also severely penalized for it in the total outcome. I'm all for challenging sequels on little change and I agree with Carolyn's review (albeit my score would be a bit higher to around 7-8), but there is a lack of consistency when it comes to challenging sequels and what exactly constitutes enough innovation to warrant it as a criticism but not enough to takes points off a total score.

If this is the start of things to come, I'm all for it but it needs to be consistent.

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@TheLeftHandDoom I enjoyed this review also.

Dark Souls was VERY similar to Demon's Souls and I can say I have seen similarities to Dark Souls 2 as well but I have also seen many new mechanics that were not present in either of the previous games. Even silly little things like holding a torch and different types of heaing will make a huge gameplay change.

I agree there needs to be an element of innovation but it also needs to keep the core gameplay otherwise it will lose what makes it a sequel. Unfortunately, it looks like Arkham origins, although still very good and solid, adds next to nothing in terms of gameplay changes and that is correctly criticised albeit harshly on the total score, but I do hope to see more of this in the recycled yearly releases.

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@bikskit @drzaloski Well said.

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@drzaloski @5cott I was just saying that I wish to see other games to be equally criticised as this review for being 'much of the same'

I have no major issue with the review itself, but this review can be used as a case and point when other games will continually get away with it with the exact same thing this game is criticised for.

I want and now expect to see the same phrases in this review in games that still get high review scores. I expect more criticism towards games that change little each year and yet receive minimum of 8's.

And judging by past reviews, I unfortunately still expect these yearly releases to still receive 8s or higher.

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@drzaloski @5cott And yet you state two examples that always get away with the exact same thing you're suggesting others shouldn't.

My point still remains; If this game doesn't get a 'free pass', as you state, then neither should CoD, AC, FIFA etc etc. Which is why I hope to see the same applied to these yearly games aswell as this game.