Surf on Gyarados is better then waterfall

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MasterSword546

Apr 5, 2009 6:06 pm GMT
So I was trying to figure out which would be better for my Gyarados, I figured it would be waterfall because its a physical attack, but when I went to test it surf did more damage.
I was using Bertha's Rhyperior to test it so I saved it, got to Rhyperior and used waterfall, it took him down to yellow. So I SR it, get back to Rhyperior, use surf, and it knocks it out in one hit.

So there you have it, surf is better then waterfall on gyarados.
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DrascalKiller

Apr 5, 2009 6:07 pm GMT
I c wut u did thar
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tyder21

Apr 5, 2009 6:07 pm GMT
Normally gyarados has full attk. ev and no spec. attk. evs.
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Knuckles_6

Apr 5, 2009 6:08 pm GMT
that could be because of perior's base 140 Def and base 40 (iirc) SpD >_>
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Pentao

Apr 5, 2009 6:08 pm GMT
Joke topic.
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Nauske

Apr 5, 2009 6:08 pm GMT
Your Logic defies science.
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Chronoman17

Apr 5, 2009 6:08 pm GMT
ingame. Outgame, you EV train, IV and nature breed for higher attack. Ingame, you pretty much let fate choose your course.
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Apr 5, 2009 6:08 pm GMT
isnt surf stronger anyway?
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Apr 5, 2009 6:08 pm GMT
that is because rhyperior's defense is insanely higher than his special defense
Fightthepower13

Apr 5, 2009 6:09 pm GMT
Lol nice
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Sedrinx

Apr 5, 2009 6:09 pm GMT
It depends really on what kind of nature your Gyarados have?
Does it have adamant nature which increases attack
or
a modest nature which increase special attack

Unless you are planning to Evd train it and use it for competitive battling, it doesn't matter in game.
MasterSword546

Apr 5, 2009 6:09 pm GMT
No its a serious topic
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Apr 5, 2009 6:09 pm GMT
toke jopic
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Apr 5, 2009 6:09 pm GMT
First off, Waterfall is usually better. There's a reason surf did more damage in your testing.
Rhyperior is not a good test subject despite being 4x weak.
Rhyperior survived the Waterfall because it has Solid Rock(Super-Effective moves do 1/3 less damage) plus very high defense. Rhyperiors are known for surviving Physical Water and Grass attacks. However, they have much lower special defense, meaning not even Solid Rock saves them from special attacks unless they just so happen to use a set I use in sandstorm teams and are nicknamed Pimperior*shot*
Chronoman17

Apr 5, 2009 6:10 pm GMT
No its a terious sopic
fix'd
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SiDoesGood

Apr 5, 2009 6:10 pm GMT
SRS gives this topic an EC rating.
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bleushots

Apr 5, 2009 6:26 pm GMT
wait....

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