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  • Jan 5, 2013 3:46 am GMT
    digidevilwil posted...
    RampantBlatt posted...
    Mister_Biggie posted...
    How is exploring rewarding?


    Because exploring the world is part of an RPG.

    And the amazing world NNK has is worth seeing. We don't even know what awaits.


    What JRPG actually rewards you for exploring, or rather what JRPG actually has exploration O.o.

    Seriously, the demo has a little touch of everything and it's all REALLY boring, especially the combat system, which I would take an RPG that is god awful in other aspects, yet has an amazing battle system (shadow hearts) over some generic cel shaded heroes saving the world romp, with a really forgettable and monotonous combat system.


    Tons of JRPG's have actual exploration. Aside from this game:

    Xenoblade
    Blue Dragon
    Tales of Vesperia
    Dark Souls (well, developed by Japanese folks anyway)
    Monster Hunter games
    Dragon Quest IX
    Pokemon Black/White (and 2)

    Should be some more as well. And that's just 7th generation alone, where there are far more extremely linear JRPG's compared to before. Exploration is pretty much one of the things that usually makes a JRPG a JRPG. It's just stupid how some idiots think that a game is linear, just because story progression is linear.
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  • Jan 5, 2013 9:09 am GMT
    PirateMoe posted...
    Mister_Biggie posted...
    How is exploring rewarding?

    Why are you asking here when the review answers that question?
    Regarding the exploration and world map, it says...
    "Walking around the game’s various towns and dungeons, and especially the world map, looks amazing 100% of the time."
    "Ni no Kuni‘s overworld is wide, sprawling, and features all kinds of terrain."
    "...running up slopes, moving around large boulders, descending into valleys, traversing sand dunes, and more."
    "Players will find plenty of reason to explore every last inch of it, with hidden villages, tons of hidden items both visible and invisible, and bounty battles. Exploring the overworld feels like going back to a favorite pastime after years of being away from it. "

    So ah...yeah.

    wstfld posted...
    Hmmm...more reviews like that and I'm in (several moths later when it is $30).

    Heeeeere you go:
    http://rpgland.com/games/reviews/ni-no-kuni-wrath-of-the-white-witch/


    Awesome, looks like the best JRPG this gen.
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  • Jan 5, 2013 9:15 am GMT
    656stooge posted...
    Mister_Biggie posted...
    How is exploring rewarding?


    This is clearly the wrong genre for you.

    You're looking for the adventure genre if you enjoy exploring.
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  • Jan 5, 2013 9:28 am GMT
    I think it's time to start training my son to go to bed early.
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  • Jan 5, 2013 11:26 am GMT
    Sighto posted...
    656stooge posted...
    Mister_Biggie posted...
    How is exploring rewarding?


    This is clearly the wrong genre for you.

    You're looking for the adventure genre if you enjoy exploring.


    Adventure games generally have a different type of exploration (point & click). While exploration isn't unique to RPG's, it's most certainly one of the things that pretty define the genre.
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  • Jan 5, 2013 1:29 pm GMT
    Play more adventure games. There's way more than point and click.
    Exploration isn't a defining aspect of RPGs, but it is of adventure.
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  • Jan 5, 2013 2:03 pm GMT
    I love the combat system very interesting and love summons. But to me this seems too kiddy like pokemon.

    I did enjoy Zelda Wind Waker & Digimon World, but I wish this game success & hope it gets a sequel
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  • Jan 5, 2013 2:07 pm GMT
    Why is nobody saying that Namco paid for the review? Like they would if it was say Metal Gear, FF, R*, CoD, ect.

    Also I wouldn't trust a review from a Playstation site since it's a PS3 exclusive.(Not counting the DS version) like I wouldn't trust an Xbox exclusive review on a Xbox funded site.
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    Jan 5, 2013 2:08 pm GMT
    zerooo0 posted...
    Why is nobody saying that Namco paid for the review? Like they would if it was say Metal Gear, FF, R*, CoD, ect.

    Also I wouldn't trust a review from a Playstation site since it's a PS3 exclusive.(Not counting the DS version) like I wouldn't trust an Xbox exclusive review on a Xbox funded site.


    Cool story bro. Go back to drooling for Boredomshock.
  • Jan 5, 2013 2:14 pm GMT
    RampantBlatt posted...
    zerooo0 posted...
    Why is nobody saying that Namco paid for the review? Like they would if it was say Metal Gear, FF, R*, CoD, ect.

    Also I wouldn't trust a review from a Playstation site since it's a PS3 exclusive.(Not counting the DS version) like I wouldn't trust an Xbox exclusive review on a Xbox funded site.


    Cool story bro. Go back to drooling for Boredomshock.


    It's just a question brah? If it was a different game people would be saying they paid for that review. Especially if this is one of Capcom. Don't give me because "It's Capcom" Namco probably would do the samething.
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  • Jan 5, 2013 2:20 pm GMT
    zerooo0 posted...
    Why is nobody saying that Namco paid for the review? Like they would if it was say Metal Gear, FF, R*, CoD, ect.

    Also I wouldn't trust a review from a Playstation site since it's a PS3 exclusive.(Not counting the DS version) like I wouldn't trust an Xbox exclusive review on a Xbox funded site.


    http://thesilentchief.com/2013/01/02/gamemasters-uk-ni-no-kuni-wrath-of-the-white-witch-review-score/
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  • Jan 5, 2013 2:22 pm GMT
    Sighto posted...
    Play more adventure games. There's way more than point and click.
    Exploration isn't a defining aspect of RPGs, but it is of adventure.


    Most adventure games come down to point & click. There are also some with actual walking around, but not that many. And yes, exploration is pretty much a defining aspect of RPG's. It's the 'the' defining aspect, but 'a' defining aspect. FFXIII seems to be a first in that it pretty much has no exploration (even compared to other linear RPG's), but even the developers made a statement about not thinking of the game as an RPG.
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  • Jan 5, 2013 2:24 pm GMT
    last time i checked studio ghibli and disney both get well reviewed (in disneys case exclusing all sequels and spin offs). doesnt mean that i want to watch them.

    simply not the target audience.

    aladin may be an amazing film and 10/10 but it just isnt for me. same with spirited away.

    same with this game.

    reviews take target audience into account. XBOX COD frat boys arnt likely to 10/10 aladin.

    the target audience for this game = different from say 'deus ex human revolution'.

    obvious but people seem to forget that. just because you think its looks great doesnt mean everyone does. just because TO YOU and YOUR PEERS in the SAME TARGET AUDIENCE AS YOU think its great, doesnt mean EVERYONE WILL ENJOY IT.

    so no matter how good the review its pretty irrelevent to alot of people who just dont think its their sort of game.

    i know ghost in the shell isnt for everyone. its a very dark, adult anime with alot of talking. certainly not for kids. probably too slow for the frat boy crowd.

    i still love it. does that mean you have to? no. am i hyping it in your face saying 'oh but this subjective review says its amazing' -> no. because you arnt me, and you arnt that reviewer. you have your own tastes and i accept it is a select taste.

    just like JRPGS as a whole, let alone ones that are PROBABLY (based on stuio ghiblis record as the japanese disney) going to be fairly 'kiddy'. similar to how kingdom hearts was 'kiddy' because of disney.

    not nessisarily bad, but 'kiddy' is a taste not everyone possesses. let alone 'kiddy' jrpg.

    /endrant
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  • Jan 5, 2013 2:41 pm GMT
    nonexistinghero posted...
    And yes, exploration is pretty much a defining aspect of RPG's. It's the 'the' defining aspect, but 'a' defining aspect.

    That's a common misconception on this board. You're not the only one to not get it.
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  • Jan 5, 2013 2:53 pm GMT
    Playstationlifestyle.net. I know I'll never agree with them now, so I'll never go to that site. Never.
  • Jan 5, 2013 2:56 pm GMT
    You know, it's sad that Ni No Kuni fans have to overhype this mediocre game so much. It didn't even do well in Japan. Obviously whoever that reviewer is is just desperate for a JRPG to play. I can relate, but, that doesn't make the game better than it is.
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  • Jan 5, 2013 3:53 pm GMT
    Sighto posted...
    nonexistinghero posted...
    And yes, exploration is pretty much a defining aspect of RPG's. It's the 'the' defining aspect, but 'a' defining aspect.

    That's a common misconception on this board. You're not the only one to not get it.


    You mean you have no f***ing clue what makes an RPG -__-
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  • Jan 5, 2013 3:56 pm GMT
    Excited.
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  • Jan 5, 2013 4:39 pm GMT
    Still__Rippin posted...
    You know, it's sad that Ni No Kuni fans have to overhype this mediocre game so much. It didn't even do well in Japan. Obviously whoever that reviewer is is just desperate for a JRPG to play. I can relate, but, that doesn't make the game better than it is.


    the ds version sold 600,000. do you really think those initial 600,000 didn't affect the ps3 version, which came out like 2 years after? most likely those who have ps3s already played the ds version. why? 'cause it's japan.
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  • Jan 5, 2013 4:42 pm GMT
    rumbalumba posted...
    Still__Rippin posted...
    You know, it's sad that Ni No Kuni fans have to overhype this mediocre game so much. It didn't even do well in Japan. Obviously whoever that reviewer is is just desperate for a JRPG to play. I can relate, but, that doesn't make the game better than it is.


    the ds version sold 600,000. do you really think those initial 600,000 didn't affect the ps3 version, which came out like 2 years after? most likely those who have ps3s already played the ds version. why? 'cause it's japan.


    This. Not to mention 600,000 is a huge success for Japan, and 200,000 (I think that's what the PS3 version sold) is also a good number over there.
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