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    Apr 29, 2008 9:21 am PT
    swatpup102 wrote:
    MAILER_DAEMON wrote:
    An editor said that in the chat yesterday, so if you don't want to buy it, I'm not forcing you to eat the truth. If you want to be angry about it, then that's also your choice.

    I just never thought I'd see so many people get angry about a game getting a 10 for the first time in over 6 years.

    If you weren't already the mod in charge of it, I would report that comment for "Intending solely to annoy and/or offend other users," as that was nothing but a directed comment intending to annoy or offend me.

    I didn't say I was angry about it, I said I don't believe it. I didn't say you said it, I said it was a lame excuse for gamespot to say.

    I'm not trying to annoy you, I'm simply telling it like it is... read my previous comments in this thread. The last comment wasn't directed at you either, but rather everyone who complained.

    Besides, I was wrong. It wasn't a red herring, but in the chat last night, Lark was making a joke about the mess-up earlier: http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26367274

    That's the real story. I've seen it before, where the score goes up, comes down, then comes back later. Heck, Knights of the Old Republic had a 0.0 before the real review went up and it was fixed. In other words, never believe the score until there's a review to go with it. That's the real answer, or "excuse" as so many people will put it, since they're convinced of a bias that doesn't exist.

    Edited on Apr 29, 2008 9:22 am PT

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    [QUOTE="swatpup102"][QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"]An editor said that in the chat yesterday, so if you don't want to buy it, I'm not forcing you to eat the truth. If you want to be angry about it, then that's also your choice.

    I just never thought I'd see so many people get angry about a game getting a 10 for the first time in over 6 years.

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    If you weren't already the mod in charge of it, I would report that comment for "Intending solely to annoy and/or offend other users," as that was nothing but a directed comment intending to annoy or offend me.

    I didn't say I was angry about it, I said I don't believe it. I didn't say you said it, I said it was a lame excuse for gamespot to say.

    [/QUOTE]I'm not trying to annoy you, I'm simply telling it like it is... read my previous comments in this thread. The last comment wasn't directed at you either, but rather everyone who complained.

    Besides, I was wrong. It wasn't a red herring, but in the chat last night, Lark was making a joke about the mess-up earlier: [URL]http://www.gamespot.com/pages/forums/show_msgs.php?topic_id=26367274[/URL]

    That's the real story. I've seen it before, where the score goes up, comes down, then comes back later. Heck, Knights of the Old Republic had a 0.0 before the real review went up and it was fixed. In other words, never believe the score until there's a review to go with it. That's the real answer, or "excuse" as so many people will put it, since they're convinced of a bias that doesn't exist.

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    swatpup102 wrote:

    If you weren't already the mod in charge of it, I would report that comment for "Intending solely to annoy and/or offend other users," as that was nothing but a directed comment intending to annoy or offend me.

    Mod in charge of what? You're gonna report him for trolling? That is priceless

    [QUOTE="swatpup102"]

    If you weren't already the mod in charge of it, I would report that comment for "Intending solely to annoy and/or offend other users," as that was nothing but a directed comment intending to annoy or offend me.

    [/QUOTE]

    Mod in charge of what? You're gonna report him for trolling? That is priceless :lol:

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    Hishiko wrote:
    swatpup102 wrote:

    If you weren't already the mod in charge of it, I would report that comment for "Intending solely to annoy and/or offend other users," as that was nothing but a directed comment intending to annoy or offend me.

    Mod in charge of what? You're gonna report him for trolling? That is priceless

    I don't even know what I'm in charge of... if people think I'm "the" mod "in charge" of the PS3 board, then they have no idea how the moderation system works here.

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    [QUOTE="Hishiko"][QUOTE="swatpup102"]

    If you weren't already the mod in charge of it, I would report that comment for "Intending solely to annoy and/or offend other users," as that was nothing but a directed comment intending to annoy or offend me.

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    Mod in charge of what? You're gonna report him for trolling? That is priceless :lol:

    [/QUOTE]I don't even know what I'm in charge of... if people think I'm "the" mod "in charge" of the PS3 board, then they have no idea how the moderation system works here.
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    Mailer_Daemon, what your opinion on the GTAIV review... did you play the game yet, what do you think of the game itself?

    Also what you think how will MGSIV will turn out?

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    Mailer_Daemon, what your opinion on the GTAIV review... did you play the game yet, what do you think of the game itself?

    Also what you think how will MGSIV will turn out?

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    Apr 29, 2008 9:31 am PT
    aka_aj03 wrote:

    Mailer_Daemon, what your opinion on the GTAIV review... did you play the game yet, what do you think of the game itself?

    Also what you think how will MGSIV will turn out?

    Having not played the game yet, all I can say is that I'm genuinely shocked that GS has rated a game a 10 for the first time in 6 and a half years. I'll probably pick it up in the next few weeks, when I've got the money to do so.

    As for MGS4, I don't bother to speculate over review scores, because I care more about how the game actually turns out. If I based everything on review scores, I wouldn't have bothered with the .hack series or the newest Fire Emblem game. In any case, I'm hoping MGS4 is as good as it's supposed to be, as these delays have been rather annoying. I'm glad they didn't release it until the DualShock 3 was the standard, though. My dislike of the SIXAXIS is well-documented.

    That said, I do care about review scores for one reason: the anger/hatred/frustration that people get from them make my e-life as a moderator much more difficult.

    Edited on Apr 29, 2008 9:32 am PT

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    [QUOTE="aka_aj03"]

    Mailer_Daemon, what your opinion on the GTAIV review... did you play the game yet, what do you think of the game itself?

    Also what you think how will MGSIV will turn out?

    [/QUOTE]Having not played the game yet, all I can say is that I'm genuinely shocked that GS has rated a game a 10 for the first time in 6 and a half years. :shock: I'll probably pick it up in the next few weeks, when I've got the money to do so.

    As for MGS4, I don't bother to speculate over review scores, because I care more about how the game actually turns out. If I based everything on review scores, I wouldn't have bothered with the .hack series or the newest Fire Emblem game. In any case, I'm hoping MGS4 is as good as it's supposed to be, as these delays have been rather annoying. I'm glad they didn't release it until the DualShock 3 was the standard, though. My dislike of the SIXAXIS is well-documented. ;)

    That said, I do care about review scores for one reason: the anger/hatred/frustration that people get from them make my e-life as a moderator much more difficult. :(

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    [/QUOTE]I don't even know what I'm in charge of... if people think I'm "the" mod "in charge" of the PS3 board, then they have no idea how the moderation system works here.
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    In other words, If I were to fill out a mod thing, you would be the one who could mod someone for it....and you or any other mods are obviously not gonna repremand each other...so there would be no point.
    But anyways, since this is off topic, back to the topic!

    Edited on Apr 29, 2008 9:41 am PT

    [/QUOTE]I don't even know what I'm in charge of... if people think I'm "the" mod "in charge" of the PS3 board, then they have no idea how the moderation system works here.
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    In other words, If I were to fill out a mod thing, you would be the one who could mod someone for it....and you or any other mods are obviously not gonna repremand each other...so there would be no point.
    But anyways, since this is off topic, back to the topic!

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    Apr 29, 2008 9:41 am PT

    Mailer-Daemon

    You seem like you try to bring up some good points, but you fail to deliver the message truthfully. I suppose its wither the way you are or your just holding back the way you really feel because your obsessed with Gamespot.

    In any regard, GTA is an 8.5 at best. Its not a 10 in any regard. Here's my non-biased review:

    9 - Graphics are good. Seen some frame-rate and loading issues when flying the helicopter, other times as well around the city in diverse situations.

    8 - Gameplay is good, but the auto-aim feature is either hit or miss in regards that it's very stupid. Most of the time the auto-aim will lock on to a guy hiding behind a car. Switching to another opponent can be aggrevating.

    8 - Sound is okay, not realistic. Radio stations are entertaining.

    8 - Value. Most of the missions are the same. Once you beat this game, there is little replay value. If you love repetition, then you must buy this game.

    9 - Tilt. Best GTA game in the series for the most part.

    Overall - 8.5

    Edited on Apr 29, 2008 9:42 am PT Edited 2 total times.

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    Mailer-Daemon

    You seem like you try to bring up some good points, but you fail to deliver the message truthfully. I suppose its wither the way you are or your just holding back the way you really feel because your obsessed with Gamespot.

    In any regard, GTA is an 8.5 at best. Its not a 10 in any regard. Here's my non-biased review:

    9 - Graphics are good. Seen some frame-rate and loading issues when flying the helicopter, other times as well around the city in diverse situations.

    8 - Gameplay is good, but the auto-aim feature is either hit or miss in regards that it's very stupid. Most of the time the auto-aim will lock on to a guy hiding behind a car. Switching to another opponent can be aggrevating.

    8 - Sound is okay, not realistic. Radio stations are entertaining.

    8 - Value. Most of the missions are the same. Once you beat this game, there is little replay value. If you love repetition, then you must buy this game.

    9 - Tilt. Best GTA game in the series for the most part.

    Overall - 8.5

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    Apr 29, 2008 9:48 am PT
    FearTheRain wrote:

    You seem like you try to bring up some good points, but you fail to deliver the message truthfully. I suppose its wither the way you are or your just holding back the way you really feel because your obsessed with Gamespot.


    How do you want him to rate it based on not even playing it?

    [QUOTE="FearTheRain"]

    You seem like you try to bring up some good points, but you fail to deliver the message truthfully. I suppose its wither the way you are or your just holding back the way you really feel because your obsessed with Gamespot.


    [/QUOTE]

    How do you want him to rate it based on not even playing it?

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    Hishiko wrote:
    FearTheRain wrote:

    You seem like you try to bring up some good points, but you fail to deliver the message truthfully. I suppose its wither the way you are or your just holding back the way you really feel because your obsessed with Gamespot.


    How do you want him to rate it based on not even playing it?

    I want him to condemn Gamespot for giving another biased crap review, but I guess I am asking to much.

    Edited on Apr 29, 2008 9:52 am PT

    "America will never be destroyed from the outside. If we falter and lose our freedoms, it will be because we destroyed ourselves" - Abraham Lincoln

    [QUOTE="Hishiko"][QUOTE="FearTheRain"]

    You seem like you try to bring up some good points, but you fail to deliver the message truthfully. I suppose its wither the way you are or your just holding back the way you really feel because your obsessed with Gamespot.


    [/QUOTE]

    How do you want him to rate it based on not even playing it?

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    I want him to condemn Gamespot for giving another biased crap review, but I guess I am asking to much. :P

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    RobC20 wrote:
    What do you think gamespot will give MGS?

    What is MGS? is that with solid snake?

    [QUOTE="RobC20"]What do you think gamespot will give MGS?[/QUOTE]

    What is MGS? is that with solid snake?

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    Apr 29, 2008 9:57 am PT
    swatpup102 wrote:

    MAILER_DAEMON wrote:
    I don't even know what I'm in charge of... if people think I'm "the" mod "in charge" of the PS3 board, then they have no idea how the moderation system works here.

    In other words, If I were to fill out a mod thing, you would be the one who could mod someone for it....and you or any other mods are obviously not gonna repremand each other...so there would be no point.
    But anyways, since this is off topic, back to the topic!

    Actually no. If I'm reported, I can't view it-- even if I were to look at the report after someone's acted on it, I couldn't see who reported me or what mod took action on it. Another mod would be able to take care of that, and even then, we'd delegate it to the administration unless if it was obvious that the person reported me to troll. However, I wasn't trolling.
    FearTheRain wrote:

    Mailer-Daemon

    You seem like you try to bring up some good points, but you fail to deliver the message truthfully. I suppose its wither the way you are or your just holding back the way you really feel because your obsessed with Gamespot.

    I'm not really sure why you think I'm "holding back the way [I] feel." If I were obsessed with Gamespot, I wouldn't have a life outside of here. You're choosing not to believe me because you think I'm being untruthful, and that's not the case. If I didn't have my mod tags (which I didn't for two weeks while I worked on a 30-page graduate-level paper this month), would I be more trustworthy? You have the right to your opinion, and if you want to write that review, go ahead and write the review... I'm not gonna stop you, although reviews should be posted in reviews, not in threads.

    What I'm taking from this is that you think that I'm simply trying to defend Gamespot out of some sense of loyalty, and if that were the case, I wouldn't have been so vocal about the Jeff mess. Don't try to make me something that I'm not.

    For what it's worth, I don't think I'll ever get over THPS3 getting a 10 or MGS2 getting as high of a rating as it did. I thought Jeff was blinded by the fact that Tony Hawk was online, and MGS2 was given a pass because there hadn't been a story as crazy up to that time.

    Edited on Apr 29, 2008 10:04 am PT

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    [QUOTE="swatpup102"]

    [QUOTE="MAILER_DAEMON"]I don't even know what I'm in charge of... if people think I'm "the" mod "in charge" of the PS3 board, then they have no idea how the moderation system works here.
    [/QUOTE]

    In other words, If I were to fill out a mod thing, you would be the one who could mod someone for it....and you or any other mods are obviously not gonna repremand each other...so there would be no point.
    But anyways, since this is off topic, back to the topic!

    [/QUOTE]Actually no. If I'm reported, I can't view it-- even if I were to look at the report after someone's acted on it, I couldn't see who reported me or what mod took action on it. Another mod would be able to take care of that, and even then, we'd delegate it to the administration unless if it was obvious that the person reported me to troll. However, I wasn't trolling.
    [QUOTE="FearTheRain"]

    Mailer-Daemon

    You seem like you try to bring up some good points, but you fail to deliver the message truthfully. I suppose its wither the way you are or your just holding back the way you really feel because your obsessed with Gamespot.

    [/QUOTE]I'm not really sure why you think I'm "holding back the way [I] feel." If I were obsessed with Gamespot, I wouldn't have a life outside of here. You're choosing not to believe me because you think I'm being untruthful, and that's not the case. If I didn't have my mod tags (which I didn't for two weeks while I worked on a 30-page graduate-level paper this month), would I be more trustworthy? You have the right to your opinion, and if you want to write that review, go ahead and write the review... I'm not gonna stop you, although reviews should be posted in reviews, not in threads.

    What I'm taking from this is that you think that I'm simply trying to defend Gamespot out of some sense of loyalty, and if that were the case, I wouldn't have been so vocal about the Jeff mess. Don't try to make me something that I'm not.

    For what it's worth, I don't think I'll ever get over THPS3 getting a 10 or MGS2 getting as high of a rating as it did. I thought Jeff was blinded by the fact that Tony Hawk was online, and MGS2 was given a pass because there hadn't been a story as crazy up to that time.

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    FearTheRain wrote:
    Hishiko wrote:
    FearTheRain wrote:

    You seem like you try to bring up some good points, but you fail to deliver the message truthfully. I suppose its wither the way you are or your just holding back the way you really feel because your obsessed with Gamespot.


    How do you want him to rate it based on not even playing it?

    I want him to condemn Gamespot for giving another biased crap review, but I guess I am asking to much.

    If I don't see bias, I'm not going to call them out for it. If I haven't even played the game, what right do I have to review it?

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    [QUOTE="FearTheRain"][QUOTE="Hishiko"][QUOTE="FearTheRain"]

    You seem like you try to bring up some good points, but you fail to deliver the message truthfully. I suppose its wither the way you are or your just holding back the way you really feel because your obsessed with Gamespot.


    [/QUOTE]

    How do you want him to rate it based on not even playing it?

    [/QUOTE]

    I want him to condemn Gamespot for giving another biased crap review, but I guess I am asking to much. :P

    [/QUOTE]If I don't see bias, I'm not going to call them out for it. If I haven't even played the game, what right do I have to review it? :?
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    I don't care what score GS gave to GTA4, nor do I care what score they give to MGS4.

    I learned a long time ago not to trust GS's scores.

    I don't care what score GS gave to GTA4, nor do I care what score they give to MGS4.

    I learned a long time ago not to trust GS's scores.

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    potentv wrote:

    RobC20 wrote:
    What do you think gamespot will give MGS?

    What is MGS? is that with solid snake?



    Metal Gear Solid and yes it's the one with Solid Snake
    [QUOTE="potentv"]

    [QUOTE="RobC20"]What do you think gamespot will give MGS?[/QUOTE]

    What is MGS? is that with solid snake?

    [/QUOTE]

    Metal Gear Solid and yes it's the one with Solid Snake
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    Well being that Gamespot loves the 360 they will probably give it a 9.0-9.5 to spite the PS3 people.

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    Well being that Gamespot loves the 360 they will probably give it a 9.0-9.5 to spite the PS3 people.
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    If anyone was watching the reviews started to come up one by one. In succession, the scores were across the board THE SAME. 9's throughout. A day later on april 28/29, the scores increased all of a sudden, not just gamespot.

    Public relations must be having a bonanza.
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    If anyone was watching the reviews started to come up one by one. In succession, the scores were across the board THE SAME. 9's throughout. A day later on april 28/29, the scores increased all of a sudden, not just gamespot. Public relations must be having a bonanza.
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    This is the first in a few years since GameSpot gave a perfect score to a game. Like I think the last time was during the early PS2 days *you could still say PS1 because it was that early* for Tony Hawks Pro Skater 3. That is like 7 years ago...

    Someone got some good negotiating.
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    This is the first in a few years since GameSpot gave a perfect score to a game. Like I think the last time was during the early PS2 days *you could still say PS1 because it was that early* for Tony Hawks Pro Skater 3. That is like 7 years ago... Someone got some good negotiating.
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    fortysix_too wrote:
    Regardless of what MGS4 gets or GTA4 gets, MGS4 will be the better game i'm sure. At least to me it will be. MGS games are my favorite of all time, with the best storyline of any game (or even movie imo). As for the GTA games, I liked blowing up cops and the high speed chases, but that gets old after a while, and the missions were always lack luster to me. This new one does look a whole lot better, though, so I will be going to pick up my preorder of it today. MGS4 will be better though. I think it will deserve a 10.


    I 100% agree with u

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    [QUOTE="fortysix_too"]Regardless of what MGS4 gets or GTA4 gets, MGS4 will be the better game i'm sure. At least to me it will be. MGS games are my favorite of all time, with the best storyline of any game (or even movie imo). As for the GTA games, I liked blowing up cops and the high speed chases, but that gets old after a while, and the missions were always lack luster to me. This new one does look a whole lot better, though, so I will be going to pick up my preorder of it today. MGS4 will be better though. I think it will deserve a 10.[/QUOTE] I 100% agree with u
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