What a SHOCKER, right? But I saw a number of threads back in the day and ongoing explaining how the Gamespot/IGN pics or whatever aren't representative of THEIR screenshots that THEY took themselves! Yeeeeee-haw! Lemming pow-wow.

But then I came across this batch of photos from the new map pack for Halo 3 so graciously provided by Gamespot and I'm sure you'll notice the discrepency quickly enough, just like me, when you pull off your rose colored glasses. You'll notice that the images with a HUD and a first person perspective look curiously different from those in third person (presumably photo viewer):

First Person

Third Person

First Person

Third Person

Images mined from:

http://www.gamespot.com/xbox360/action/halo3/news.html?sid=6183641&tag=topslot;title;1&om_act=convert&om_clk=topslot

Now, you could give me some crap about how these Gamespot images are non-representative of the product, but allow me to laugh at you for your totally ridiculous attempt at a rebuttal. Given these pics are from the same batch, presumably obtained the same way, and given the best possible explanation for their discrepency is one is photo viewer and one is not, let's assume that and leave it there.

Photo viewer does not equal gameplay.

So how is gameplay? Well, you'll notice there are, in fact, rampant jaggies all over the place, whereas in photo viewer, you have a pristine, smooth image with 0 discernible jaggies on the entire image. Also, photo viewer particle effects appear to be superior as is the filtering. Anyway, feel free to disagree on the particulars, but don't you dare try and pretend that photo viewer doesn't add anti-aliasing, the pictures provided here provide ample proof of that.

all the models and enviroments look exactly the same in both third and first person in those shots...

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Sure they do.

Scroll through the images on Gamespot's feature.

I can only put so much in the OP. They look particularly degenerated from some of the third person scaled back shots.

At any rate, you're totally f'ing with me if you seriously think that the photo viewer mode is not improved at LEAST in AA and probably in anisotropic filtering. The particle effects in the second image versus those in the first person image add to my assertion that the particle effects are improved in photo viewer mode as well.

[QUOTE="wolverine4262"]photomode allows first person pics to be taken, so what your pont?[/QUOTE]

My point, I guess, is obviously going to have to be that the HUD still makes the first person shots legitimate gameplay images....unless photomode replicates the HUD, in which case, the only way we can tell the difference is in anti-aliasing.

My post should have made it more than clear that photomode adds significant antialiasing. It's like night and day. Are you telling me you can't tell the difference between the photomode shots and the gameplay shots in my OP?

[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]even if there was an improvement in picture quality in the 3rd person shots is that necessarily a bad thing? i thought good graphics meant the game was good to fanboys...[/QUOTE]

Heh. Probably true. Still, that doesn't mean fanboys of different groups (hermits, sheep, cows) have to accept that Halo 3 looks the way some lemmings think it does (or at least are trying to make it seem).

all the models and enviroments look exactly the same in both third and first person in those shots...

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Sure they do.

Scroll through the images on Gamespot's feature.

I can only put so much in the OP. They look particularly degenerated from some of the third person scaled back shots.

At any rate, you're totally f'ing with me if you seriously think that the photo viewer mode is not improved at LEAST in AA and probably in anisotropic filtering. The particle effects in the second image versus those in the first person image add to my assertion that the particle effects are improved in photo viewer mode as well.

[/QUOTE]Whats your point?! Bungie has already confirmed that photomode bumps up the res of the image....BTW, Id bet those first person pics are photo-mode aswell.....
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You'd bet? Can you confirm that?

Can you give me some kind of a confirmation? Does the first person photo mode retain the HUD or remove it? Can you come up with your own first person photo mode screens to prove your argument?

[QUOTE="my_name_is_ron"]even if there was an improvement in picture quality in the 3rd person shots is that necessarily a bad thing? i thought good graphics meant the game was good to fanboys...[/QUOTE]

Heh. Probably true. Still, that doesn't mean fanboys of different groups (hermits, sheep, cows) have to accept that Halo 3 looks the way lemmings think it does (or at least are trying to make it seem).

[/QUOTE]The way we think it looks? We are the ones that actually play the game! We know its not spectacular, and frankly we couldnt care less!
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Congratulations, I don't care either. Enjoy your game, by all means.