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  • Dabunzie
     
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    Aug 1, 2007 10:47 pm PT

    I see around and alot of people dislike steam (of course not as many as when it was first released).

    It keeps my games updated easily so i dont have to search around for patches when one is released for a game.

    One of the best things about it though, is that it helps independent game developers reach a large audience and get their games out there. For that one factor alone i dont see how people can hate steam.

    What do you guys think of steam now?

    Edited on Aug 1, 2007 10:50 pm PT

    I see around and alot of people dislike steam (of course not as many as when it was first released).

    It keeps my games updated easily so i dont have to search around for patches when one is released for a game.

    One of the best things about it though, is that it helps independent game developers reach a large audience and get their games out there. For that one factor alone i dont see how people can hate steam.

    What do you guys think of steam now?

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    Aug 1, 2007 10:47 pm PT
    Okay...

    Discussion Value?
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    Okay... Discussion Value?
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  • thanatose
     
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    When Steam was first launched it had too many problems but now it has turned out to be an excellent way to get games. I have been very pleased with the way Steam has improved since it's initial release.

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    When Steam was first launched it had too many problems but now it has turned out to be an excellent way to get games. I have been very pleased with the way Steam has improved since it's initial release.
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  • Judza
     
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    Aug 1, 2007 11:09 pm PT

    thanatose wrote:
    When Steam was first launched it had too many problems but now it has turned out to be an excellent way to get games. I have been very pleased with the way Steam has improved since it's initial release.

    Agreed entirely. Steam itself is a great program, but sometimes the implementations of new features result in bugs that go unfixed for a while, and in effect make the system seem worse than it actually is. It has improved vastly since its inception though.










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    [QUOTE="thanatose"]When Steam was first launched it had too many problems but now it has turned out to be an excellent way to get games. I have been very pleased with the way Steam has improved since it's initial release.[/QUOTE]

    Agreed entirely. Steam itself is a great program, but sometimes the implementations of new features result in bugs that go unfixed for a while, and in effect make the system seem worse than it actually is. It has improved vastly since its inception though.

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  • nutcrackr
     
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    I think it's good, the steam community features that should be out soon also look pretty sweet. I've bought a few games using steam and plan to buy more

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    I think it's good, the steam community features that should be out soon also look pretty sweet. I've bought a few games using steam and plan to buy more :)
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    whgresiak wrote:
    Okay... Discussion Value?

    lol you always say that - well i must admit myself this topic is more like a blog and not like gaming discussion

    Edited on Aug 2, 2007 1:04 am PT Edited 2 total times.

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    [QUOTE="whgresiak"]Okay... Discussion Value?[/QUOTE]

    lol you always say that - well i must admit myself this topic is more like a blog and not like gaming discussion

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    Dabunzie wrote:

    I see around and alot of people dislike steam (of course not as many as when it was first released).

    It keeps my games updated easily so i dont have to search around for patches when one is released for a game.

    One of the best things about it though, is that it helps independent game developers reach a large audience and get their games out there. For that one factor alone i dont see how people can hate steam.

    What do you guys think of steam now?

    as soon as you'll have problems with it you'll hate it as almost everybody else

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    [QUOTE="Dabunzie"]

    I see around and alot of people dislike steam (of course not as many as when it was first released).

    It keeps my games updated easily so i dont have to search around for patches when one is released for a game.

    One of the best things about it though, is that it helps independent game developers reach a large audience and get their games out there. For that one factor alone i dont see how people can hate steam.

    What do you guys think of steam now?

    [/QUOTE]

    as soon as you'll have problems with it you'll hate it as almost everybody else

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  • 1carus
     
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    Aug 2, 2007 1:16 am PT

    Well yes, Steam is quite good, and it has turned into quite a valuable service, but that's exactly where it fails also, it being a service. You buying a game off steam is no longer you paying for a product, it's you paying for a service that may run out at any time.

    What if Valve were to be shut down (not likely anytime soon, but theoretically), and suddenly, you have no games to play. Likewise, when Steam isn't working one day, for some reason, you have no games to play. And since you're running all these games through Steam now, at any point Valve could legally (once again not likely, but theretically) begin charging monthly for these games.

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    Well yes, Steam is quite good, and it has turned into quite a valuable service, but that's exactly where it fails also, it being a service. You buying a game off steam is no longer you paying for a product, it's you paying for a service that may run out at any time.

    What if Valve were to be shut down (not likely anytime soon, but theoretically), and suddenly, you have no games to play. Likewise, when Steam isn't working one day, for some reason, you have no games to play. And since you're running all these games through Steam now, at any point Valve could legally (once again not likely, but theretically) begin charging monthly for these games.

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  • Dabunzie
     
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    Aug 2, 2007 1:19 am PT
    1carus wrote:

    Well yes, Steam is quite good, and it has turned into quite a valuable service, but that's exactly where it fails also, it being a service. You buying a game off steam is no longer you paying for a product, it's you paying for a service that may run out at any time.

    What if Valve were to be shut down (not likely anytime soon, but theoretically), and suddenly, you have no games to play. Likewise, when Steam isn't working one day, for some reason, you have no games to play. And since you're running all these games through Steam now, at any point Valve could legally (once again not likely, but theretically) begin charging monthly for these games.

    Never really thought about it like that, but i doubt valve will be going under anytime soon.

    [QUOTE="1carus"]

    Well yes, Steam is quite good, and it has turned into quite a valuable service, but that's exactly where it fails also, it being a service. You buying a game off steam is no longer you paying for a product, it's you paying for a service that may run out at any time.

    What if Valve were to be shut down (not likely anytime soon, but theoretically), and suddenly, you have no games to play. Likewise, when Steam isn't working one day, for some reason, you have no games to play. And since you're running all these games through Steam now, at any point Valve could legally (once again not likely, but theretically) begin charging monthly for these games.

    [/QUOTE]

    Never really thought about it like that, but i doubt valve will be going under anytime soon.

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  • 1carus
     
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    Aug 2, 2007 1:32 am PT
    Dabunzie wrote:
    1carus wrote:

    Well yes, Steam is quite good, and it has turned into quite a valuable service, but that's exactly where it fails also, it being a service. You buying a game off steam is no longer you paying for a product, it's you paying for a service that may run out at any time.

    What if Valve were to be shut down (not likely anytime soon, but theoretically), and suddenly, you have no games to play. Likewise, when Steam isn't working one day, for some reason, you have no games to play. And since you're running all these games through Steam now, at any point Valve could legally (once again not likely, but theretically) begin charging monthly for these games.

    Never really thought about it like that, but i doubt valve will be going under anytime soon.

    But it could happen. What if Orange Box fails (Lol, once again theoretically, it looks great) and Valve happen to lose a lot of money, then they could either bust, which shuts down the whole of Steam, or maybe they'll just become money hungry and demand monthly payment.

    I trust Valve, for now, but I just can't trust Steam, even if it is a developed and confident program.

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    [QUOTE="Dabunzie"][QUOTE="1carus"]

    Well yes, Steam is quite good, and it has turned into quite a valuable service, but that's exactly where it fails also, it being a service. You buying a game off steam is no longer you paying for a product, it's you paying for a service that may run out at any time.

    What if Valve were to be shut down (not likely anytime soon, but theoretically), and suddenly, you have no games to play. Likewise, when Steam isn't working one day, for some reason, you have no games to play. And since you're running all these games through Steam now, at any point Valve could legally (once again not likely, but theretically) begin charging monthly for these games.

    [/QUOTE]

    Never really thought about it like that, but i doubt valve will be going under anytime soon.

    [/QUOTE]

    But it could happen. What if Orange Box fails (Lol, once again theoretically, it looks great) and Valve happen to lose a lot of money, then they could either bust, which shuts down the whole of Steam, or maybe they'll just become money hungry and demand monthly payment.

    I trust Valve, for now, but I just can't trust Steam, even if it is a developed and confident program.

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  • Judza
     
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    Aug 2, 2007 3:48 pm PT
    1carus wrote:
    Dabunzie wrote:
    1carus wrote:

    Well yes, Steam is quite good, and it has turned into quite a valuable service, but that's exactly where it fails also, it being a service. You buying a game off steam is no longer you paying for a product, it's you paying for a service that may run out at any time.

    What if Valve were to be shut down (not likely anytime soon, but theoretically), and suddenly, you have no games to play. Likewise, when Steam isn't working one day, for some reason, you have no games to play. And since you're running all these games through Steam now, at any point Valve could legally (once again not likely, but theretically) begin charging monthly for these games.

    Never really thought about it like that, but i doubt valve will be going under anytime soon.

    But it could happen. What if Orange Box fails (Lol, once again theoretically, it looks great) and Valve happen to lose a lot of money, then they could either bust, which shuts down the whole of Steam, or maybe they'll just become money hungry and demand monthly payment.

    I trust Valve, for now, but I just can't trust Steam, even if it is a developed and confident program.

    They have said that if the system were to fail and become shut down for whatever reason, they would be able to let their customers still access their games, albeit the authentication and auto patching would most likely stop.










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    [QUOTE="1carus"][QUOTE="Dabunzie"][QUOTE="1carus"]

    Well yes, Steam is quite good, and it has turned into quite a valuable service, but that's exactly where it fails also, it being a service. You buying a game off steam is no longer you paying for a product, it's you paying for a service that may run out at any time.

    What if Valve were to be shut down (not likely anytime soon, but theoretically), and suddenly, you have no games to play. Likewise, when Steam isn't working one day, for some reason, you have no games to play. And since you're running all these games through Steam now, at any point Valve could legally (once again not likely, but theretically) begin charging monthly for these games.

    [/QUOTE]

    Never really thought about it like that, but i doubt valve will be going under anytime soon.

    [/QUOTE]

    But it could happen. What if Orange Box fails (Lol, once again theoretically, it looks great) and Valve happen to lose a lot of money, then they could either bust, which shuts down the whole of Steam, or maybe they'll just become money hungry and demand monthly payment.

    I trust Valve, for now, but I just can't trust Steam, even if it is a developed and confident program.

    [/QUOTE]

    They have said that if the system were to fail and become shut down for whatever reason, they would be able to let their customers still access their games, albeit the authentication and auto patching would most likely stop.

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  • Swiftstrike5
     
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    Aug 2, 2007 4:01 pm PT
    Steam sucks... reason: Power Loss about 2months ago kept people from playing any steam games for almost 3 days. You can't even play singleplayer unless you have internet.

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    Steam sucks... reason: Power Loss about 2months ago kept people from playing any steam games for almost 3 days. You can't even play singleplayer unless you have internet.
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  • Judza
     
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    Swiftstrike5 wrote:
    Steam sucks... reason: Power Loss about 2months ago kept people from playing any steam games for almost 3 days. You can't even play singleplayer unless you have internet.

    And in this day and age...if you wish to play games, then why don't you have the internet? (not directed at you Swift, just the general population)

    PS. I know you meant just singleplayer, however, Steam itself does say that the requirements include "An internet connection required". And they've also used an "offline mode" to cater for those who do not have regular internet, albeit, it doesn't always work as intended.

    Edited on Aug 2, 2007 4:05 pm PT









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    [QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]Steam sucks... reason: Power Loss about 2months ago kept people from playing any steam games for almost 3 days. You can't even play singleplayer unless you have internet.[/QUOTE]

    And in this day and age...if you wish to play games, then why don't you have the internet? (not directed at you Swift, just the general population)

    PS. I know you meant just singleplayer, however, Steam itself does say that the requirements include "An internet connection required". And they've also used an "offline mode" to cater for those who do not have regular internet, albeit, it doesn't always work as intended.

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  • Herrick
     
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    Aug 2, 2007 4:07 pm PT

    1carus wrote:
    What if Valve were to be shut down (not likely anytime soon, but theoretically), and suddenly, you have no games to play. Likewise, when Steam isn't working one day, for some reason, you have no games to play. And since you're running all these games through Steam now, at any point Valve could legally (once again not likely, but theretically) begin charging monthly for these games.

    Doesn't the ability to play games in offline mode compensate for this?

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    [QUOTE="1carus"]What if Valve were to be shut down (not likely anytime soon, but theoretically), and suddenly, you have no games to play. Likewise, when Steam isn't working one day, for some reason, you have no games to play. And since you're running all these games through Steam now, at any point Valve could legally (once again not likely, but theretically) begin charging monthly for these games.[/QUOTE]

    Doesn't the ability to play games in offline mode compensate for this?

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  • Swiftstrike5
     
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    Im just pointing out a major disadvantage for people without a constant internet connection (mainly mobile laptops).

    Edit because of your edit: The most recent single-player release (Lost Planet) requires a constant internet connection for singleplayer. The reviewer points out that they lost their progress because the lack of mid-game save and loss of internet connection. I konw I have a problem with getting steam to run offline (you have to set it once before it works all the time).

    Edited on Aug 2, 2007 4:16 pm PT

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    Im just pointing out a major disadvantage for people without a constant internet connection (mainly mobile laptops).

    Edit because of your edit: The most recent single-player release (Lost Planet) requires a constant internet connection for singleplayer. The reviewer points out that they lost their progress because the lack of mid-game save and loss of internet connection. I konw I have a problem with getting steam to run offline (you have to set it once before it works all the time).

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  • BounceDK
     
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    Aug 2, 2007 4:20 pm PT
    It sucks.
    When running in the background it will randomly use 100% CPU .. Not good. Steam has been hacked 2 times (probably many many more times) so it's not secure. Last hacker got hold of every costumers personal info, Valves economy etc. Oh ... Activate your games to play them? Major fail. Steam sucks.
    It sucks. When running in the background it will randomly use 100% CPU .. Not good. Steam has been hacked 2 times (probably many many more times) so it's not secure. Last hacker got hold of every costumers personal info, Valves economy etc. Oh ... Activate your games to play them? Major fail. Steam sucks.
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  • SimpJee
     
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    Aug 2, 2007 4:23 pm PT
    I like Steam to, a lot actually. I like downloading games and not having to worry about it when I whipe my hard drive, as they'll be there to easily install. And yeah the patch thing is great, as well as the new games from independent developers.

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    I like Steam to, a lot actually. I like downloading games and not having to worry about it when I whipe my hard drive, as they'll be there to easily install. And yeah the patch thing is great, as well as the new games from independent developers.
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    Aug 2, 2007 4:49 pm PT

    Swiftstrike5 wrote:
    Steam sucks... reason: Power Loss about 2months ago kept people from playing any steam games for almost 3 days. You can't even play singleplayer unless you have internet.

    Offline mode?

    [QUOTE="Swiftstrike5"]Steam sucks... reason: Power Loss about 2months ago kept people from playing any steam games for almost 3 days. You can't even play singleplayer unless you have internet.[/QUOTE]

    Offline mode?

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  • munhozmib
     
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    I don't really love Steam. I'm planning to buy Counter Strike from it. However, I don't use it a lot. I don't hate, nor like. I'm neutral about it.
    I don't really love Steam. I'm planning to buy Counter Strike from it. However, I don't use it a lot. I don't hate, nor like. I'm neutral about it.
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    BounceDK wrote:
    It sucks. When running in the background it will randomly use 100% CPU .. Not good. Steam has been hacked 2 times (probably many many more times) so it's not secure. Last hacker got hold of every costumers personal info, Valves economy etc. Oh ... Activate your games to play them? Major fail. Steam sucks.

    Not a fan of Steam either. I've been without cable and internet at home this week because of a storm, so I'm glad I have games that don't require an internet connection. Yeah, there's offline mode, but just the fact that your games, what you've paid for and own, are critically tied to some server that you need to be connected toin order to receive, install,and activate is a negative.

    What if I wanted to install and then play one my games while my connection is down?

    If the digitally downloaded games could be freely distributed once you purchase them, I would absolutely love it then!!! That would be a completely different story (can install at will, not tied to Steam service, once you have them don't need internet connection, etc). But that offers no protection for the software companies, so there probably isn't a good answer.

    I don't personally consider getting automatic updates/patches an advantage either, I want to have that control over my system and applications.

    [QUOTE="BounceDK"]It sucks. When running in the background it will randomly use 100% CPU .. Not good. Steam has been hacked 2 times (probably many many more times) so it's not secure. Last hacker got hold of every costumers personal info, Valves economy etc. Oh ... Activate your games to play them? Major fail. Steam sucks.[/QUOTE]

    Not a fan of Steam either. I've been without cable and internet at home this week because of a storm, so I'm glad I have games that don't require an internet connection. Yeah, there's offline mode, but just the fact that your games, what you've paid for and own, are critically tied to some server that you need to be connected toin order to receive, install,and activate is a negative.

    What if I wanted to install and then play one my games while my connection is down?

    If the digitally downloaded games could be freely distributed once you purchase them, I would absolutely love it then!!! That would be a completely different story (can install at will, not tied to Steam service, once you have them don't need internet connection, etc). But that offers no protection for the software companies, so there probably isn't a good answer.

    I don't personally consider getting automatic updates/patches an advantage either, I want to have that control over my system and applications.

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