It really sucks that so many PC gamers, including myself will not be able to play great games like Halo 3, Reach, 4, Call of Duty 3 and more just because Microsoft care more about xbox and making money
Reports claim Microsoft's next operating system will be able to play current console game discs through an Xbox Live Gold-like subscription service.
Source: An article on Teknylate.
What we heard: The Teknylate article claims that Windows 8 will let users play Xbox 360 games on their PCs, although it attributes no particular source with the information.
Teknylate's piece appears to be the reason this story has entered the news cycle today, but it's not entirely new. A very similar story surfaced in May on Insideris, with the author of that piece (who goes by "Sam") attributed generic "sources" with the information that Xbox 360 functionality on Windows 8 PCs will be reserved for those willing to pay an Xbox Live-like subscription fee.
However, the subscription service won't simply be Xbox Live, as cross-platform play will specifically be prohibited to avoid competitive mismatches that could arise from one group of players sporting mice and keyboards while others wield standard Xbox 360 controllers.
Such a move would drastically increase the installed user base for the Xbox 360 and bring console gaming into households that never would have considered picking up a $200 gaming system they would play rarely, if at all. The risk of Microsoft undercutting the Xbox 360 market could also be limited as the console is already older at this point than the original Xbox was when it was discontinued.
The longer Microsoft can ride this generation, the better, but the software giant is rumored to be unveiling its next step forward by E3 2012. And given the razor-razorblade business model the gaming industry generally adheres to (in which hardware is often initially sold at a loss with the money recouped through software sales), perhaps Microsoft wouldn't mind significantly expanding the Xbox 360 user base without needing to sell more systems.
This isn't the first time Microsoft has eyed PC and Xbox integration. The company's original Games for Windows Live initiative brought the Xbox Live gamertag (and games like Gears of War and Halo 2) to PC players with merged friends lists and achievements.
And earlier this year, Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer confirmed that the Kinect motion-sensing camera peripheral would be coming to the PC, saying, "We'll support that in a formal way in the right time, and when we have an announcement to make, we'll make it." (The company has since released the Kinect software development kit for PC.) It also doesn't take a very long look at Microsoft's first Windows 8 demo video to notice a resemblance between it and the Kinect dashboard.
The official word: Microsoft had not responded to GameSpot's request for comment as of press time.
Bogus or not bogus: There's essentially nothing to go on here, so it's an obligatory bogus. But Microsoft has indicated it wants to further integrate its Xbox and PC efforts, and the downside here is fairly limited.
Whether they implement this or not isn't of much importance to me since PC's will soon be able to play pretty much any console game using an emulator(i can already play ps1, ps2, nds and even some psp games at a pretty decent speed with a not so fast pc) so even though it will take longer to "port" console games on a PC it will always happen.
I would really like Microsoft to merge them, then we don't have to worry about breaking our consoles by dropping them for example.
Even Xbox is now different hardware (in a way) from a pc , why bother this so-called merger ? For me...making possible to play a xbox game on a pc it's the same when that game would be made for pc only. They are stupid if they imagine that I would make any difference between a Xbox game (played on pc) and a pc game. It's stupid also to have DVDs for pc games and Xbox DVDs and both compatible with a pc DVD-WR drive. As it is just to download Xbox games on a pc to play them. That trick won't fool anyone. If I'd be a Xbox fan , I would treat that as treason from Microsoft if I have to play it on pc when I was used to a Xbox console. And is stupid to exist separate systems to play , as well ( Xbox games on pc and the same Xbox games on a Xbox console). Bottom line I don't really understand what Microsoft is trying to pull off this time. Anyway...if this makes the end of the consoles, then I'll play along, I hated them anyway. They infected the pc games market.
Some of these comments made me laugh. Seriously, not having a computer able to run a 360 game is just downright lazy. If you can't assemble a computer with all the instructional videos.. how-tos.. and charts for compatibility.. then you may have some kind of disability. I hope this is true. I'm tired of Microsoft severing communities between the PC and 360. Should just merge both into one community. This whole marketing scam between buying a PC for PC games and buying a 360 for 360 exclusives is sad. It was really hard to resist a 360 for Forza Motorsport.. but I'm not spending money on a console that I've had fail three times (with microsoft voiding my warranty for no reason.. then giving it to the person I sold the broken console to.) At least with my PC I know the parts I put in and bought myself all have trusted warranties and are all quality components.
@partytimekegs But if they merge them into one community, what is the chance of developers making a pc version and a 360 version of a game? There is no denying that consoles fall behind PCs pretty darn fast and the only reason to get a "gaming pc" is so that one can play the better version (i.e the pc version) of multiplatform games. IF they'll just be the same then the development of games would stagnate even more than it already has.
i think this is a great idea....i really want to play series like halo and gears of war on my new pc
As far as cross platform goes, its sooo simple, simple have an option when you join a game for PC only, Console only or PC/Console, problem solved. Its now the players choice and if he get his A** owned by a PC player he has no one to cry to but himself for choosing to join a PC/Console game. As far as Windows playing 360 games, they should have implemented this with Windows 7. I think its a great idea.
Honestly, I think this isn't bogus. The new xbox 360 dashboard that comes out this fall will look just like windows 8 OS. And on top of that, the fact that microsoft basicly moved games for windows live over to xbox.com. More clues to the puzzle?
Well, how about people like me, who've been stuck with a 600$ PC all the way back from 2007 (In Israel an Xbox 360 isn't officially sold, so at the time Xbox 360s were actually sold for 600-650$, no joke), and now can earn some 1000-1200$ to buy a new proper gaming PC. Why the **** should I give up on the best gaming solution and instead buy an Xbox 360, that's finally gotten cheap in Israel enough to buy it? And with this, a PC would become the perfect solution.
Whether or not this story is true, here's my take on it: With the way the economy is, people like me simply cannot afford to upgrade a PC with new software and/or hardware to have Xbox compatiblity. I just bought my Compaq desktop earlier this year and I ain't about to shell out almost $1,000 or more just to have a new PC that can run Xbox Games or XBL. I just can't afford it.
@OriginalXboxGmr Dude, 360 games run on fucking 5-6 year old hardware. There is no way in hell one will need a $1,000 pc to play those games. Just think before you type.
@YoungCardinal am i say "who bough this features is a dumba**?" NO. FOR ME this features is useless. Yes, i buy a console or computer to play 1 or 2 exclusive games and some multiplatform game, you know better than me, moooore games of this generation are sh*ts so why i mustn''t do this?
If this is true then users must have decent graphic cards installed in their PCs. If I'm gonna play xbox360 games, I'll be buying the console instead.
Just port over Halo 3 and Reach, everything else is on the PC with better graphics and cheaper anyway.
@tsunami2311 from what i could gather from all the gibberish, is that you're saying that an xbox 360 game would overwhelm a moderate pc. That is utter bull-manure my friend. Microsoft aren't an independent company trying to create an emulator. They OWN the technology behind the Xbox, they could integrate that technology into the Win8 without much hassle, and make huge bucks out of it. Old games that were released back when the x360 was launched will be sold again, and the whole profit margin of MS would give them some breathing space to release their next platform. This would sound bogus at any other time, but the Xbox360 is old, and now's the time to either introduce a new product, or a new idea. And this is a great new idea.
@OtherFabbros, I've always played on the PC. I played GoW and Fable TLC on the PC. Enjoyed both games very much. As a gamer I hate to see companies abandon certain games for exclusive titles on the 360 (or any console for that matter). Unlike like you, I don't think its justifiable to buy a console to play 1 or 2 great but exclusive titles.
Oh come on... - features for run windows7 on live - features for run facebook on Psn F*CK IT ! if i want run windows 8 or FB, i use a computer... if i want play Gears 3, i buy a 360... if i want play Starcraft 2 i use a powerful PC....
Great idea on paper, I imagine though that we'll need to be connected to the internet all the time or have some other drm bs for them to actually do this. I would love to have games back where they belong though, on the PC.
This is really disturbing. I don't want the PC gaming to be absorbed by Xbox gaming. A fusion of these two would be catastrophic for me.
@Gothic-360 "However, the subscription service won't simply be Xbox Live, as cross-platform play will specifically be prohibited to avoid competitive mismatches that could arise from one group of players sporting mice and keyboards while others wield standard Xbox 360 controllers." thats what i was commenting on, hence my talk of mice and keyboards. ive been using the wired controller for a while now.
This story went on some news company.But it's just a rumor and I am trying to email Microsoft to have Xbox 360 games on their next software but the question is what about the buttons on Xbox 360 controllers.I think they will make a Xbox 360 controller sold separately that fits to the computer like in a USB slot.
@nurnberg You really don't understand the real world do you? It isn't illegal to have a monopoly in a market. What is illegal is how a company controls a market to become a Monopoly. @sara2099 Little Big Planet is a PS game...
@tsunami2311 Not really, The Xbox uses mainly DirectX9 API's with some custom APIs for the console. They could include those APIs into Windows 8. Indeed you will probably need a decent powerful computer to play the games. That's why this will probably be an advanced feature used primarily for the PC Enthusiasts (Most will still play it on their consoles). Were talking about the Software Giant that creates Windows and Xbox, so if anyone could do it could do it, I'd expect the creators would know best.
i suppose they wouldn't have to port then so that would save money, and they could charge pc users for xbox live. sounds like MS to me.
The raw power that would be need to emulate 360 game on a PC, would be be outrageous and the 500$ dell computer wont cut it. The only way this will work on the pc is threw emulation, and emulation has always need ridiculous amount of power to run the original hardware even when that hardware being emulated is really old tech. Unless MS can pull some miraculous Emulation software out of there asses i dont see this happen with out the need of beefier computer then what is needed to run games that actual programed for pc.They couldn't even get the emulations of XBox game on the 360 right. what are the chances of this? I see this as someones wish full thinking and ploy to make people "want" to upgrade there OS to the latest and greatest 300$ OS MS has to offer. Considering most people still use XP in comparison to any other OS version they have. this would be great way lure people into buying a the newest OS If they do that and big if cause that is tall order to do without needing some ridiculously powered and expensive pc that would probably cost 2 to 3 time the price of the 360 system just to run. Next thing you know they gona want you to pay them extra to play those game online on the pc to.
The story is bogus due to lack of info like they said, but at the same time the reality of it isn't that far fetch. Considering that they've intergrated XBox Live into cell phones, why wouldn't they do so with the PC? As lame as it may seem to me (or you), Portal 2 is an example of PC to console gaming that works, so it would be only right that the company that makes Windows would be keen on intergrating it with the XBox fully. Especially when you have things like OnLive trying to carve into the gaming market and draw people away from consoles, however badly they will fail at that LOL.
This would be good if it's possible. I've been wanting to play console-type games on my computer for years.
why not.. it seems like a good idea.. since the new xbox will come soon.. windows 8 could play 360 games.. so people who dont own a 360 will buy games to play them on their PCs and wont be pushed to buy the new console..
This would be really cool for those who don't want to buy a 360. Also, it sounds like a good way to keep the sales of 360 games moving even after they release their new console, so it sounds like a win-win situation. Hopefully they will actually do this!
It would be nice not to have to rely on the xbox's hardware 100% of the time. If it should fail or rrod you have an option to play on the pc. This also may be appealing to people with smaller homes and big families. I may be wrong, but I think there will be a market for this.
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