any thoughts on this kickstarter project?? the vid cracks me up.
$165 digital-only donation tier for Obsidian's PC role-playing game to include copy of inXile's fan-funded project, first expansion pack.
Gamers who back the Kickstarter campaign for Obsidian Entertainment's isometric PC role-playing game Project Eternity can also get their hands on Wasteland 2. Obsidian has announced a new $165 digital-only contribution tier that includes inXile's fan-funded RPG.
Additionally, Obsidian has announced that the first expansion pack for Project Eternity will be included with a contribution of $165 or above. The developer said it expects to have this content available about six months after Project Eternity ships around April 2014.
No details on the expansion pack are available, but Obsidian said "you can bet it will be what you'd expect from an Infinity Engine game expansion."
inXile founder Brian Fargo is no stranger to the senior staff at Obsidian. Fargo also founded Interplay, and is credited with helping launch the careers of Obsidian CEO Feargus Urquhart, among others.
The Kickstarter campaign for Project Eternity ends in one week. It has rocketed past its original $1.1 million funding target, landing almost $2.5 million from about 55,000 backers as of press time.
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hows ickstarter work? If I dont add can I still get the game when its out? If I do add do I get a cut of the profits?
@Dominicobaggio Kickstarter is like an investment in that you give money and you get something back. but you are not buying stock in the game, or the company. It will tell you in a kickstarter ad what you will get in return, and how much you need to invest in order to get it. For example if you pay 165 dollars you get all future dlc for free when the game releases. You pay 10 dollars you get a 50% off coupon for the game. You give 10000 dollars and you get to sleep with the dev's wife. Stuff like that. Thats how it works. Anybody can post a project on kickstarter and ask for an investment, you just have to give something in return that you believe equals the value of the investment.
@Dominicobaggio Well. most of these games wouldn't have been made otherwise, because the publishers don't think they're profitable enough, so that's a big reason why so many people donate to these projects.
These kickstarter projects have several benefits to ordinary games. You can most of the time get a copy for 15 dollars. It's not exactly a preorder discount, because kickstarter doesn't guarantee that a game will be made or that the game will include everything the developers promised. That's why unknown developers don't get much media attention or bring in the big bucks, but Obsidian is experienced in game developing so they'll lose more than their customers will, if they don't make what they promised.
Each donating level describes what you'll get and for 50-60 dollars (the price of an ordinary, publisher founded game) you can get much more than a publisher founded game would give you. it's just a matter of how much you'rer willing to spend, IF you want to donate.
I have enough games for years to come, so I'm not going to donate anything to any project. By the time they get released (and they WILL get released to the public, but at a higher price probably) I'll have reduced my backlog of games enough to want to buy them.
@Hurvl @mlcarter815 @mxviii So you have to want the game to be made. Even for extras ect it seems a lot. I thought it was a nice idea. But in a way you are just replacing the publisher, without the benifits of being a publisher "free games and a chunk of the profits" The only way I can see a use in this is if im desperate for the game to be made, then I can show my support.
@mlcarter815 At least they have posted a release date, April 2014. As with all release dates, it might change, but Obsidian has released games before and so there's less chance of them failing to launch one now. I just hope they don't get too overambitious with all of what the game is said to contain, even though they'll likely hit 2,7 million dollars or above with Kickstarter + PayPal donations.
I backed for $250 so good for whoever I give my copy of Wasteland 2 to since I also backed that one. Probably a lot of the people who backed over $165 already backed Wasteland 2.
nice. Synergy. A bit pricey but it is afterall a donation anyway (technically they don't owe you anything)
On a slightly unrelated note: who's sick of this "You got ___ in my ____." or "Who put ____ in my ___." joke that Gamespot seems to hash out in every freakin article. It's majorly annoying!
$165 dollars for two games seem like alot to payout...I thought Kickstarter was there for people who wanted to create games, not for studios to ask for large sums of money. Are these games gold plated or something...
@Hillsy_ it's not just for the game, depending on how much u pay u get extra stuff like the OST or get to create a weapon or armor set or enemy faction and so on. This second game is added to what you already got extra for 165+$ donated, just check their ks page for all the details.
@Hillsy_ people really want to play these kind of games. though they may be few. this kickstarter prompted me to start planetscape torment (never played IE game before) must say, have been missing out on awesomeness.
@Hillsy_ Wasteland 2 isn't a game made by them it would be a very bad idea for Brian Fargo to give his game out to everyone who donated $50 or $100 to another company's Kickstarter. As of this time that's already about 1,400 people who donated $165+, all of them just got a free game.
you guys might want to give some recognition to these industry veterans that also are doing a kickstarter for 2 old school rpg games...
one is set in space & the other is a fantasy game...
they have done Doom, Wizardry, Dungeons & Dragons, Anachronox...
might be worth it to do an article on them to give them some recognition as well...
they could use some more support to get the project up & going...
@HailHellfire Gave them $100 when it started, hoping they get more support but it looks like they are doing ok so far. Much better than Nexus 2 at least, mostly because those devs aren't doing much to get the word out.
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Hopefully people don't see this as a preorder. There is no guarantee that you will get anything for your money on a Kickstarter project. Even though this is a big name developer, things can happen.
its already funded, i dont see how you would not be able to get the product when both projects are well, beyond their kickstarter, goal....
@HailHellfire They could run into complications. Not everyone may be informed of the risks associated with Kickstarter.
@HailHellfire I see a Kickstarter bubble in the making. I don't think there are enough people who are aware enough of what Kickstarter really is. I'm all for Kickstarter. I'm all for giving the little guy a chance to release a product, but this scaling of rewards based on the donations is too much like a PBS fundraiser. I'm curious how many people treat it like shopping than funding.
Look at how many millions of dollars the Pebble Watch made. With how difficult it is to get into the hardware business, how many of those people actually think that they will get a watch in a few years?
"this isnt a super huge game or nothing, with tons of crazy detail..." No? I thought this was a throwback to old cRPG games like Baldur's Gate. Part of the appeal to those types of games was the amount of detail. Spending hours reading through the lore. Every time you replayed it you'd find new details that you missed the first time through.
have you personally run into alot of issues with Kickstarter?
or are these just your own personal beliefs?
im just curious...
complications come either way but not having to deal with middle men, its much easier for them to push out the product....
this is going to be a much smaller game then say, something like Skyrim...
this isnt a super huge game or nothing, with tons of crazy detail...
@Morphine_OD Just saying. You are funding a project, not preordering a product.
@The_Last_Paladi I'm not saying I don't have faith in the companies. What I don't have faith in is that everyone understands what Kickstarter is.
@mlcarter815 @Morphine_OD Wow...Look, you either fund for the projects or not. If somehow not having faith in the general population is preventing you from trying something, then you have more personal issues than having faith in your fellow man. I been a part of over a dozen Kickstarter projects and haven't been disappointed yet.
@Morphine_OD That's a large assumption.
@mlcarter815 the general population in question doesn't use kickstarter
@Morphine_OD Yes, I do. I don't have faith in the general population.
@mlcarter815 so you think people can misunderstand that? You honestly think people are so dumb they don't even read what are they spending money on? Gimme a break.
@Morphine_OD That's not part of the terms of Kickstarter.
@mlcarter815 actually you do pre-order it if your reward tier is high enough. With this amount of cash, there's bound to be at least SOMETHING of a game. So your arguments are ridiculous.
That's a little much and did anyone notice the similarity between the logo and the next Elder Scroll's logo?
@MXVIII By who's standards?
@Rusmurf By the standards of the economy. Now dont get me wrong Im excited for this game. Im enjoying torchlight immensely, and I cant wait for obsidian to make a new game, they make some pretty good games. I was just making a very valid statement.
Both Wasteland 2 or Project Eternity will be on the same par with Torchlight 2, Bastion, or DeathSpank,, not AAA like GTA or Mass Effect.
@MXVIII If they release a game that plays and looks like Fallout/Baldurs Gate/Planescape/Icewind Dale I will be very happy and that is something that they can do.
@MXVIII no one's aiming at making a AAA title. They only care for making a decent game for the niche of hardcore cRPG players. They can make something of Torchlight quality with these money and that's all the niche asks of them.
The best thing about kickstarter is that there is no publisher involved that can control the development for maximizing the profits. Publisher are kinda loaning the money to developers and are aiming to get MUCH more in return. But Kickstarter gets the power not to the SELLER, but to the BUYER. Which is always better for the BUYER, in that case - gamers.
@MXVIII I've seen people make better RPG's off of 10,000 dollars than any AAA RPG released so far this year...
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