Wasteland 2 added to Project Eternity Kickstarter

 @Dominicobaggio  Well. most of these games wouldn't have been made otherwise, because the publishers don't think they're profitable enough, so that's a big reason why so many people donate to these projects.

These kickstarter projects have several benefits to ordinary games. You can most of the time get a copy for 15 dollars. It's not exactly a preorder discount, because kickstarter doesn't guarantee that a game will be made or that the game will include everything the developers promised. That's why unknown developers don't get much media attention or bring in the big bucks, but Obsidian is experienced in game developing so they'll lose more than their customers will, if they don't make what they promised.

Each donating level describes what you'll get and for 50-60 dollars (the price of an ordinary, publisher founded game) you can get much more than a publisher founded game would give you. it's just a matter of how much you'rer willing to spend, IF you want to donate.

I have enough games for years to come, so I'm not going to donate anything to any project. By the time they get released (and they WILL get released to the public, but at a higher price probably) I'll have reduced my backlog of games enough to want to buy them.

@Hurvl @mlcarter815 @mxviii So you have to want the game to be made. Even for extras ect it seems a lot. I thought it was a nice idea. But in a way you are just replacing the publisher, without the benifits of being a publisher "free games and a chunk of the profits" The only way I can see a use in this is if im desperate for the game to be made, then I can show my support.

 @mlcarter815 At least they have posted a release date, April 2014. As with all release dates, it might change, but Obsidian has released games before and so there's less chance of them failing to launch one now. I just hope they don't get too overambitious with all of what the game is said to contain, even though they'll likely hit 2,7 million dollars or above with Kickstarter + PayPal donations.

 @mlcarter815  @Dominicobaggio Yep well, all investments come with that yummy risk

 @HailHellfire I see a Kickstarter bubble in the making. I don't think there are enough people who are aware enough of what Kickstarter really is. I'm all for Kickstarter. I'm all for giving the little guy a chance to release a product, but this scaling of rewards based on the donations is too much like a PBS fundraiser. I'm curious how many people treat it like shopping than funding.

Look at how many millions of dollars the Pebble Watch made. With how difficult it is to get into the hardware business, how many of those people actually think that they will get a watch in a few years?

"this isnt a super huge game or nothing, with tons of crazy detail..." No? I thought this was a throwback to old cRPG games like Baldur's Gate. Part of the appeal to those types of games was the amount of detail. Spending hours reading through the lore. Every time you replayed it you'd find new details that you missed the first time through. 

 @mlcarter815 

have you personally run into alot of issues with Kickstarter?

or are these just your own personal beliefs?

im just curious...

complications come either way but not having to deal with middle men, its much easier for them to push out the product....

this is going to be a much smaller game then say, something like Skyrim...

this isnt a super huge game or nothing, with tons of crazy detail...

 @The_Last_Paladi  I'm not saying I don't have faith in the companies. What I don't have faith in is that everyone understands what Kickstarter is.

 @mlcarter815  @Morphine_OD Wow...Look, you either fund for the projects or not.  If somehow not having faith in the general population is preventing you from trying something, then you have more personal issues than having faith in your fellow man.  I been a part of over a dozen Kickstarter projects and haven't been disappointed yet.

 @Morphine_OD That's a large assumption.

 @mlcarter815 the general population in question doesn't use kickstarter

 @Morphine_OD Yes, I do. I don't have faith in the general population. 

 @mlcarter815 so you think people can misunderstand that? You honestly think people are so dumb they don't even read what are they spending money on? Gimme a break.

 @Morphine_OD That's not part of the terms of Kickstarter. 

 @mlcarter815 actually you do pre-order it if your reward tier is high enough. With this amount of cash, there's bound to be at least SOMETHING of a game. So your arguments are ridiculous.