Valve Steam Box reported to run on Linux, due 2013 - Report

 @thequickshooter  @deadkingdg  @PetJel - Nope that isn't the case at all.  "New Materials" don't make the graphics better.  The GPU in the elite and the slim for example are exactly the same. 

 @deadkingdg  @JunglemanchiId  @PetJel actually the elite xbox from 2008 looked better then the regualer white xbox

and the slim has a little better graphics (due to newer meterials and new stuff) 

same as the fat ps3 and the old ps3 

better meterials but same tech

 @deadkingdg  @thequickshooter  @PetJel - Yes I am fully aware of how it works.  It is also the biggest problem, the hardware stays the same.  PCs are itching to move forward.

 @JunglemanchiId  @thequickshooter  @PetJel But they still run the same hardware. All the improvements on the machine are things like reduced heating and reduced energy cost. Every X360 would give you the same graphics. The games just make better use of the machine, that's all.

 @deadkingdg  @thequickshooter  @PetJel - That's like saying xbox 360 games from 2005 are the same as xbox 360 games from 2012.  That isnt the case at all.  Call of Duty 2 and Quake IV for example.  The xbox improved each year but peaked a couple of years ago. 

 @thequickshooter  @JunglemanchiId  @PetJel And the X360 was released in 2005. Just try to find a PC from 2005 for less than 500$ that can play games like the Witcher you just posted. My 1000$ PC from 2008-2009 can play all of today's games, but not at the highest settings, mostly similar to consoles.

 @thequickshooter  @PetJel - I didn't buy , I built.  If someone wants a good gaming PC but don't want to pay a fortune then they need to learn how to build it themselves.  The PC I build for around £550 costs about 3-400 more in any shop, no question about that.  Anyone who buys a gaming PC pre built for over £1000 has too much money to spend.  825 dollars then, for a PC I use for gaming, movies, work, education and recording music.  All of it through a nice monitor or through my TV, can use controllers or mouse and keyboard.  I am NOT saying that consoles suck and PCs are ftw because I have owned about 20 consoles in my life but what I was originally replying to you over was the popular idea that PC gaming is too expensive and its just as good an experience on a console for a fraction of the price.  I don't believe it is.

 @thequickshooter  @JunglemanchiId  @PetJel Oh, the eternal back and forth argument about whether PC's are too expensive. If you want everything to run on maximum settings after 3-5 years, then you might have to upgrade, but I've never been that type. Running things on High instead of Ultra after 3-4 years is good enough for most people and you don't need an expensive computer to achieve that. Me, I have a serious backlog and haven't touched most modern games so running games on maximum is a non-issue for me.

 @JunglemanchiId  @thequickshooter  @PetJel i meant in 2008 the xbox was 250-300 cause the elite slim was close to release in 2009

and a pound is 1.5 worth of every dollar so it's 

825 dollars 

and did you bought it in 2008 or it's last year?

 @JunglemanchiId  @thequickshooter  @PetJel Core I3 + 4GB ram + mainboard + GTX660 < $600

@thequickshooter @PetJel sorry but no. You have no idea obviously. My pc cost 550 pounds built myself and has no problems and yes can go into my big tv too...why couldnt it? Stick to inferior consoles. Also 250 for ps4 etc.....dream on.

 @JunglemanchiId  @PetJel that's bullshit!

lets say in 2008 you bought a 1000$ computer (that includes screen, gaming mouse, keyboard, mouse pad.)

after 4 years a that same gear  cannot run a game like the witcher 2 on maximum (or atleast with slight lag)

and every bunch of year you gotta get a new rig 

OR buy a 250$ console with controller and everything (besides a proper mic) hook it into you living room big ass LCD and enjoy

and watch this comperison 

of the witcher 2 xbox vs pc

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDQbJ6oQznw

 @buccomatic  @G-Man4ever Yeah, cause I'm totally going to work on a game machine. Face it, the vast majority of computers in the world are used for work, not gaming, and most of them run on Windows. And more and more jobs are getting done (or helped with) computers, so Microsoft isn't going to die any time soon.

>implying that the next xbox won't be successful

>implying microsoft only do videogames

>implying the steam box will be anything like the xbox

 @Jinzo_111887  @Jebril  @rgli

 You're both right about Linux and open source, but wrong about MS.  All software was proprietary before MS because all software was written for different types of hardware, which were inherently proprietary.  There was no open source software because sotware by and large wouldn't run on different hardware.  The reason MS became by far the biggest was because they jumped on IBM's revolution of the PC.  IBM made the PC effectively an open source hardware platform because anybody could build a PC (which is just a computer based on an x86 architecture).  Software designed to run on x86 architecture should run on any PC (bar conflicts caused by other peripheral hardware).  Genuinely open source software was only possible when there were standards for hardware so that it is possible to write software for one machine that will also work on another.  Without both IBM making the hardware open source (by allowing other people to build PC's, unlike Apple) and MS providing an OS (ripped off or otherwise) that made PC's relatively user friendly) Linux and other open source systems wouldn't exist (at least in their current form) because the x86 architecture may not have become the dominant hardware.

 @solidzombie  @Stebsis Exactly!  Just the point that we are on this site talking about this makes us above the average Tech Level of most people!  So people that are not already will only care about, is it easy, can I play the games I want, and is it cost effective!  Those of us that already have OS preferences and so forth are going to do what we do anyway!

 @Stebsis Ye, but look at an average person. They are not going to bother with all that stuff no matter how long it takes. They just want to pop the disc in and have the game work. Which is why I am a console person, so much less headache and stress.