Valve blocking class-action suits

Don't agree to it, Many Publishers put this in the End-user license agreement.

Valve is hopping on the bus. Play our game give up your RIGHTs agreement.

You can still sue; just not collectively.

I think this way each individual is considered by their circumstances rather than the majority.

Not exactly sure tbh but you still have most of your standard rights in these situations.

I'll say it once and I'll say it again. Nothing, not even a piece of paper you agree to, can keep you from doing a right you are given as an American citizen. What if Sony and Valve made you sign a piece of paper saying you have to vote Republican or Democrat (their choice) for as long as you're using their service?

How is this fucking possible???!!! How and why are they allowed to block people from suing them? That's is freakin' crazy!!! Halloo people, wtf is this crap??

who sues valve anyways

What about a class action suit about blocking class action suits?

No big deal, they sell videogames, not weapons, how bad can a dispute with an unhappy customer turn out?

It's their call, they can do what they like with their software, and we all knew this from the start.

Just put yourselves in their shoes.  You're trying to get things done as a company and the biggest, angriest community on the internet keeps suing you for stupid reasons, and even though they keep losing, they still waste everybody's time and money while the lawyers who thrive on conflict just get richer and richer.

I was kinda shocked when I learned they hadn't already done this, and I don't mind it at all.

There's only so much you can take from millions of stupid angry gamers, even if you are the most fan-friendly, community-aware gaming space on the planet.  For those of us who don't go around like a**holes suing everything we see, the rate of productivity at Valve will increase, and we benefit.

Suing is something that happens all to often in this county, much like jail-time, 70% of the people in our prisons committed non-violent crimes, and most of them don't even need to be there.  Way too over-used.

I do not agree with their method, as corporations love reducing the rights of individuals in this corporatocracy. But I do agree that a large portion of these law suits do nothing that help these companies, or the users, instead they get a nice steady cash-flow in for the lawyers, and courts involved.   It makes sense, but in the end, it just removes more rights from the everyday citizen, and protects the ruling powers more.

Guess we still haven't come real far as a society.  Went from kings and queens ruling us. To Wal-mart, Oil industry, banks ruling us, as our new kings and queens. 

Don't lie to us Valve.  Sony, Microsoft, Netflix, and other companies got away with adding these clauses stripping consumers of their rights and you thought it was time to join the party once the heat had died down.

Anyone clear about the legality of these sorts of user agreements? I'm not here to argue it one way or another, but there are certain legal rights you can't sign or click away. Had an employer a few years back that tried to get everyone to sign away their paid breaks under threat of dismissal, and oh man did he get smacked around by the courts. I'm not saying it's the exact same thing, but anyone know of any legal precedents pertaining to this?

Can't say I disagree, a lot of people file lawsuits for no other reason other than money. Not because they genuinely think their copyright/trademark is being used illegally. Still, this full proofing thing is a practice I do not like.

I'm not worried as long Gabe Newell in there, he's always put community first, and fans trust him too, 

BUT,,, who will be Gabe's next successor if he's gone, perhaps it's not necessarily important today, but if by any chances, Valve / Steam go public or do something irrelevant then this kind of things is something that need to be considered.

and honestly I don't like these kind of terms.

-_-

I hate to admit, but class-action lawsuits indeed only benefit the lawyers involved. That's right, Erin Brockovich's law firm kept almost all the money to themselves. Show that in the movie next time.

If I ever need to take Valve to court or participate in a class action suit, I'll just say I was coerced into accepting the agreement because they held my games hostage.

anytime you can't sue anyone as a group is never a benefit to anyone other the company that sets up the  tos

Is that what the terms of service said that came with the update yesterday? 'cuz I blindly clicked agree.... well bye bye Steam hello Desura.