@screath Did Capcom announce that UMvC3 is going to run on a different server from the regular game? I'm honestly wondering. If it's not, that would probably make some customers happy. I'm also pretty sure DLC would be more expensive.
After teasing "future plans" for crossover fighter, publisher said to be rereleasing game with 12 new characters, $40 price.
Source: Comic book and nerd-culture enthusiast site The Quarter Bin.
What we heard: It's pretty clear that Capcom has something up its sleeve for Marvel vs. Capcom 3 at Comic-Con 2011. Both Capcom and Marvel will be hosting panel discussions at the event, and producer Ryota Niitsuma is scheduled to be on hand to deliver "fantastic news" about "future plans" for the crossover fighter. Now, it appears as if the companies' big announcement will be a Marvel vs. Capcom 3 redux, complete with an expanded roster and budget price point.
The Quarter Bin reports that Marvel and Capcom will announce Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 at next week's San Diego event. A rerelease akin to Super Street Fighter IV, Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 will reportedly include 12 additional characters on-disc. The original MVC3 included 38 playable characters, including downloadable fighters Jill Valentine and Shuma-Gorath.
Despite the added content, Capcom is apparently lowering the price for the game's rerelease. The Quarter Bin indicates that Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom 3 will carry a $39.99 sticker tag, a move that falls in line with SSFIV's discount rate.
The official story: Capcom had not responded to a request for comment as of press time.
Bogus or not bogus: Looking not bogus. Capcom has a long tradition of rereleasing its fighting games with gameplay tweaks and expanded content, to substantial success. Expect more information at Capcom's Comic-Con panel, which is scheduled for 11 a.m. on Saturday, July 23. Marvel's talk will follow shortly thereafter at 12:30 p.m.
Capcom, you pulled this stunt on me with SSFIV, but it won't work this time. I bought the Collector's Edition with the comic and 2 caharcters on release. There is no way in hell that I am selling that. I refuse to buy UMVC3 unless it is DLC. $20 sounds fair enough. The problem with this philosophy is that it breaks up the community. I bought the game to play online and now I will have far less people to play against. I thought that after SSFIV AE that you had learned your lesson, but I was wrong. You even went 1 step further to include characters from Mega Man Legends in the original release, and not Mega Man himself. I get that Zero was a better choice, but you could at least have added him in the Ultimate version. I will not buy this game as it stands, and I refuse to buy future Capcom games unless they fit my wants. So far, the Phoenix Wright Ace Attorney is the only game I'm looking forward to from you. You've either cancelled or butchered everything else. The least you could do is release this game as DLC. Otherwise, you will get none of my money.
@DaredevilFan "When you play MvC3, you can tell it feels empty as if they purposely left things out so they could sell it in DLC." Oh? We do? Or is that just you? 36 characters feels "empty" to you? That's more than SSFIV! Yes, there are fewer than in MvC2, but that's because MvC2 recycled sprites from games released 4 years prior. Here, they had to redraw all of them. And MvC2 had worse character balancing IMO. I've spoken to plenty of people--some good friends--who believe that MvC3 wasn't just worth the $60 price but also better than MvC2. How you "feel" is not some sort of proof that Capcom left content out anymore than my "feeling" like people are lying or withholding information is proof that they are. Some of these characters might already be on the disc, but so what? We were going to have to pay for them anyway. From what I hear, there's only 4 others on the disc: Jill, Shuma-Gorath, Doc Ock, and Frank West. That means 10 of the upcoming characters for UMvC3 are brand new additions. That said, I believe your decision to wait in the future is a wise one. I'm just curious why you and others haven't caught on sooner.
scratch what i said about firebrand... I just saw some gameplay footage and....he will be worthy lol. A nice rushdown character to add to my arsenal :p. Ghost rider seems solid(nice for otg game) but has a she-hulk type super >_>. Strider seemed solid and hawkeye is like a superfast taskmaster. More agility and faster shooting arrows.
@cachinscythe lol preach man! Peeps shouldnt complain about ultimate mvc3 if they purchased and didnt complain about ssf4. But Man I cant wait for the spectator mode because waiting and seeing nothing sucks lol. Others should realized that all in all that by trading in mvc3 close to ult mvc3 release and then purchasing it will be much cheaper than purchasing the characters through dlc. Now if Capcom never planned to release another disc and wasnt going to add any additional content (signed blood statement that this will be the only release of mvc3) then dlc is fine (eventhough it would be expensive). Lol lovin' the garbageman ref.
@cachinscythe Naw your not alone man. I agree with you whole heartily about the selections you mentioned. Especial Star gladiator, Powerstone,P.N. 03 and Rival Schools.. GAWD please at least a powerstone,Star Gladiator and/or rival schools character. I also would accept someone from chaos legion to be rumored other than the supposedly rumored virgil from dmc. I mean I dont mind virgil but I dont think there is a need to have 3 dmc characters ya know. I also read about the rumored Nemesis and as i like nemesis...4 RE characters seems to be a bit much where they could sub in another from a different game. Wow Zack and Wiki! Man not too many people i think may have played that or at least even heard of the title! nice selection. I do agree that costumes should be unlockable instead of just titles and colors. A lot of characters have different outfits and also it would be added incentive to play MVC3. Cause I really dont like the fact that I have to pay 4-5 bucks for a costume pack in ssf4 and some of the costumes suck. Now thats Milkin' it lol. Other games I think capcom should take a look back at to pull from their own game pool : Darkstalkers, JoJo's Bizarre Adventure, (game with sick combos), Trojan aka Tatakai no Banka, again Captain Comando, Dark Void (they can develop combos), God Hand (I can see sick combos developed) and Onimusha...so many choices lol
@Dawg9000 Okay then don't. Give me some clear provable evidence instead. You said that Super Street Fighter IV was an plentiful update. It featured 10 new characters, some rebalancing, and a redone online mode. It also REMOVED Survival and Time Trial modes. But now you're saying that THIS update--which will feature a spectator mode, rebalancing, presumably a tweaked online mode, and TWELVE new characters--is not okay; that in fact it's criminal. Why? You got LESS with SSFIV and IT was okay! And yes, Arcade Edition is not worth trading in SSFIV...which is why that content is available as DLC. You can choose NOT to get it. Why are you complaining about spending $15 for four new characters when it would cost MORE to pay that much for the 12 in UMvC3 if it was DLC? If you're bothered by this then fine. I won't argue that if I'd bought the original I wouldn't be upset. And maybe I was wrong to make that comparison between "Nazis" and "criminal," but IMO that kind of language--whether its exaggerated or not--fosters extremism and sends the wrong message to consumers that they deserve to be pampered endlessly without any input of their own. I don't blame people for being irritated, but the garbage man isn't required to walk up to your house to get the trash from you; you have to carry the can to the street. That's just life. I'd be happy to continue discussing this. :)
@cachinscythe Did you just compare the word Nazi to criminal? You can't even write one of them without a capital letter! I'm not gonna get into semantics on Gamespot.
Well I am actually thinking on buying this "Ultimate Marvel vs. Capcom" and it is just because I don't have the original. However, for those who already bought, it must be frustrating. Instead of releasing new games with 3 new stages, 2 new caracters and 1 new color, they should care less about money and just release a full version at once.
@a_sacked_lunch I just like it when Capcom and Marvel choose to provide representation for more obscure stuff, and Capcom has SOOO much quality stuff they've put out over the years--especially during the DC/PS2 eras--that they can draw from. Among the games I'd LOVE to see represented in MvC are Dino Crisis, Onimusha, Power Stone, Maximo, P.N. 03 (I'm alone here), Chaos Legion (I'm alone here too), Breath of Fire, Monster Hunter, Star Gladiator, Rival Schools, and Phoenix Wright. Heck, even more obscure fare like Zack and Wiki, Buster Bros., and Steel Battalion. While they're at it, I'd appreciate them providing unlockable costumes instead of colors, especially since many of the characters have multiple designs anyway. There are like 7 different Mega Man spinoffs. That means if Mega Man makes it in, he could have a regular outfit, an X outfit, a .EXE outfit, a Legends outfit, and possibly some others. Same for Zero.
@cachinscythe man if they throw in some powerstone characters that would just seal the deal! They need more love then what they've gotten and to show that they are worthy in the MVC universe. Powerstone characters FTW
And with this, I will never buy another Capcom game again. At least not on release. Why do they punch people in the ballz for buying the game on release? Exactly how many versions and downloadables did SFIV get? RE5 gets DLC that's locked on the disc and then comes out with yet another version? Come on, that's not how you treat your customers. I can say with 100% honesty that I will never buy a Capcom game on release day. I'll probably try to stay away from Capcom in general to be honest. I've been screwed over way too many times by them.
HONORABLE MENTIONS: The Punisher (He's too much like Dante and Deadpool) Psylocke/Marrow (They'd be unique, but I'd rather see other characters in the game.) Jon Talbain (He'd be great if he wasn't too similar to Amaterasu.) Maximo (If Arthur wasn't in the game, I'd want Maximo in his place.) Regina (If they could make her play differently from Chris Redfield and Jill, I'd be up for her joining the cast. By the way, she's from Dino Crisis) Vanessa Schnieder (I think she'd be pretty cool, but everyone hates the game she came from.) Sieg Warheit (Same problem as Vanessa)
I've spent a lot of time defending Capcom's decision to release this on here. Now, I think I'd like to discuss what characters I want in this new version: Gambit Rogue Ghost Rider Sandman/Carnage Nightcrawler B.B. Hood Strider/Hayato/Jin Firebrand (Demon's Crest) Guile/Juri Falcon/Rouge/Jack (Power Stone)
@neotokyo86 Heck Yea! Man if they add in Gambit Its a guarantee. I know one xmen that they are probably throwing in the mix....cyclops...But i wouldnt mind seeing stryder, captain commando, and jin back in the mix! That would be sweet!
@deathblow3 I'm not about to say you don't have a point for being bothered by another retail release with just a few new characters, but I'm ALSO wondering what releases you're referring to. SSFIV had TEN new characters, a revamped online mode, and tweaks to improve character balance. Granted, I didn't BUY the original--only got SSFIV--but I can imagine most players saying that's justified enough for a $40 purchase. Now if you're talking about ARCADE EDITION, yeah you have a point. ALTHOUGH, the four new characters (and I'm guessing any further tweaks) are available as DLC. So you don't have to buy the retail release to get the content from AE.
But yes. It would have been easier on players minds if they just released all the expected characters on the original release and made them easy unlocks...
I will have to agree with cachinscythe. I remember when Fallout 3 came out. Boy was I excited! I mean a nice lengthy game with so many components of play in it! I played it religiously. Then what's this?DLC? Awesome i think i'll download it! Then a lil while later few more? I think it was like 10-15 bucks for each one? I cant fully recall. Then probably about a year later " EVERYONE WE ARE RELEASING FALLOUT 3 GOY EDITION FOR 60 BUCKS!" .(includes all dlc for that price) *cheers and hoorays *... wait a min.... didnt i just buy the original and then pay like another say 30-40 bucks on dlc? smh and I felt bad for those who bought the limited edition and then the DLC. But did anyone make HUGE complaints about that? Not at all.
i guess dlc is a no no for capcom i'm tired of buying a game at retail for 4 or 5 new charaters talking to you ssf4 & $40 at that to boot capcom you are starting to piss me off
Unless I get something other than DLC for reserving this, I'm gonna wait two years before arcade edition, and portable comes out, I think a full sequel would have been better. "your version of the game is now inferior" news is a perfect birthday present Capcom. let thepossible character threads begin. I want jin and cyclops
@vengefulwilberg Okay. Thanks for contributing to the discussion. And thanks for pointing that out. I probably SHOULD refrain from using the word *****ing if I want to respect the opinions of others. You have a nice day too. :)
Time to whack my Capcom on ebay and wait for the new one. Hopefully they repair it too as i found the game to be pretty unbalanced and far from perfect. Luckily i got MK to keep me fight'n - since i got my hands on that SF has been gathering dust like grandpa's nutsack
I hope this comes out after SFxT, but whichever comes first i think there'll be at least a 3 month gap, capcom don't want to give people two choices at launch. Also i bought the limited edition version & i like the case (actually i like it more than the game lol) so trading in isn't an option for me, so i really hope they make the character's DLC. Finally, i feel bad for trophy hunters doing mission mode & getting all the titles takes forever, to do it twice would just suck
I am done here. I am not some troll that just does this to piss people off. I am actually upset about this. I never got frustrated with a gaming company until now. Capcom's tactics pushed me over the edge. They had 10 plus years to make a game that gamers around the world was asking for and this is what they come up with. Not cool at all. This probably wouldn't have been so bad if Capcom really thought it through. Unbalanced characters, weak roster, X-Factor(didn't really think it was needed and it adds on to the balance problem), no spectator mode, pathetic number of battle stages, arcade mode is useless due to poor endings, and lousy music themes.
@ cachinscythe And if you really respect the opinions of people, then you wouldn't call it b****ing. I would call it too extreme, too harsh, or annoying. I will admit my criticism hasn't been constructive at all the past few days ever since I saw this article. Sometimes I wish I never saw the blasting thing. I have been playing fighting games for years and Capcom does this crap far more than anyone else. Other companies that produce fighting games create DLC too, but they add to it rather than rehash the same game 3 or more times. Blazblue, King of Fighters, Tekken, Mortal Kombat, and Soul Calibur. Sure some of the titles mentioned did make 2 versions of a game, but they didn't make it a daily routine.
@ cachinscythe I know Capcom's habits, but I didn't think their tactics would spill over to a cross over game. MVC was the last game I thought would follow the pattern of Street Fighter. I don't have a problem with expansions. Games like Fallout 3 and Rockband were complete games at launch. Their DLC really felt like DLC instead of a plan to make up for releasing an incomplete game. When I say increments I mean incomplete s*** that hits shelves the first day. Why didn't King of Fighters and Tekken follow the same pattern? They felt they did what they could to please the fans. SNK's King of Fighters 12 wasn't exactly what fans liked so they made a new game to compensate for it, not reproduce the same thing.
@ cachinscythe Here is what I mean. As long as the game doesn't feel rushed DLC is not a problem to me. MVC 3 was released a few months ago and they are already making another disk version of MVC 3. I bought the game on the day of release and now me and others have to pay another forty bucks while those who didn't buy the first game only have to pay forty instead of sixty for the original characters and the12 extra characters. This isn't what I call fair. DLC could be used to make things fair for those who already bought the game. To really make this fair the 12 characters should be free DLC for those who already bought the game. And if that is too much to ask then Capcom should provide a DLC discount package of some kind. This is the reason why I would rather see a company create a complete game first; then launch DLC. If it was done this way, then there would be far less problems. Look at Harmonics and Rock Band. Harmonics is one of the few companies that actually treats DLC more like what it supposed to be additional content not on the disk.
I knew I had a good reason not to buy the original. I had be a fool to buy this one as well, we all know next year is going to bring the final version. I feel sorry for this who bought the original tho' I can understand your anger.
FYI, this is why I don't buy fighting games. However, I *might* buy MvC3 next year after they release an "Ultimate Mv3 Arcade Edition." Because any person with common intellect knows that a fighting game has at least 3 or 4 turns of milking in it. I highly respect MK though. They're the only ones to not do it. They do it right: DLC!!!
Ummmm so will they offer any discount to those of us that bought the original MvC3? Cause so far this really sounds like a kick in the nutsacks. As much as I hate the concept of DLC, release this as a DLC pack or something. Where are the good ol days when devs released EXPANSION packs?
U guys need to just calm down so their coming out with a new mvc3 ok? i bought the original in February and im gonna get this why? not because im blinded by stupidity like most of the ppl commenting this, im getting this because i am a fan of mvc have been since x-men vs street fighter, so just cuz capcom releases a new version of a game u shouldnt just complain. WHEN THIS GAME COMES OUT IM TRADING IN MY ORIGINAL MVC3 LIKE THE REST OF YOU SHOULD instead of complaining about o and i didnt buy any DLC
@vengefulwilberg (continued) Also, I don't think you meant it this way, but if great games are not made in "increments," how can you say the stuff should be DLC instead? DLC IS increments. Half-Life Episode 1,2,3; Expansions to Borderlands, Fallout 3, and Oblivion; Xenosaga Episodes 1,2,3...these are all examples of incrementation. Yes, it might not be what people want from FIGHTING games, but why aren't they *****ing about THOSE games too? How do you even know the hypothetical DLC that provided these 12 new characters wouldn't cost MORE than the $40 for the enhancement? Someone on here said the 4 new characters in SSFIV: AE are available as DLC for $15. 12/4 = 3, and 3 * $15 = $45. If they released these characters as DLC, wouldn't it cost MORE? But listen, I respect your view, and honestly, if Capcom decides to do another rerelease, I'll be very bothered. Although even then, if the enhancements are provided as DLC the way they are for SSFIV: AE, I might not be as bothered as I should be.
@vengefulwilberg I don't expect you or anyone to be the "Yes man" for Capcom. In fact, I don't blame most people for being bothered by this. But there are plenty of things gamers can do to avoid getting frustrated by this, not the least of which is wait for a damn price drop in the normal game, and given how much *****ing gamers do about $60 games anyway, I'd think they'd have the intelligence to realize they should delay a purchase. Instead, they whine about being victims of greedy corporations that in no way force them to buy their games. And you can say all you want that gamers shouldn't have to wait until a year or two after release for the "full version" of a game, but anybody who actually exercises good sense and patience shouldn't have a problem with that, ESPECIALLY if they see a pattern like Capcom's in play. And as I already said, whether they should have to or not, if players WOULD delay while continuing to make vocal that they want the game, Capcom would STOP providing enhancements to their games and just delay the release altogether. Whether players should HAVE to or not, if they DID, they would benefit. You don't provide yourself with more stuff in the future by spending all your money TODAY. Life's not always fair. For the record, I'm defending Capcom on here and don't feel I'm getting cheated at all. Wanna guess why? :) (TBC)
@a_sacked_lunch Thanks. I should clarify that I actually ENJOY unlocking characters and features. It was one of the best parts IMO of MvC2. But that doesn't mean it can't be done in a way that's frustrating. (See the original version of Street Fighter IV) All that means, though, is that the unlocking system needs to be rewarding enough and simple enough. Player Points like the ones featured in the original MvC2 are a great way to unlock characters because you get them no matter what mode you play or HOW you play. Regardless, most of the people I talk to don't want characters locked at all--which frustrates me because it feels like gamers nowadays refuse to EARN anything, but that's another story--so there's only one VERY specific way to make them happy: feature all characters from the get-go, don't release any as DLC, and never create an enhanced version of the game. GIVE US EVERYTHING NOW, OR NOTHING. Call me crazy, but that's what I call "unreasonable."
@justicxprime Yeah that's true but I really like how MK did its story mode and it gave me a sense of nostalgia with how they went back a elaborated on and even altered some aspects of the original 3 games' stories.
@Double_Wide MK had more extra content but it didn't offer a deeper fighting engine, so they are about the same to me, if I am in a mood to goof off and play some mini games IL play MK, if I want to play online competitively, Id rather play MVC.
@reyace I traded my copy to Game Players Unlimited in Batavia, ny. they offer better prices for your trades then any one else hands down, I also work there :P
wtf, when the regular version was comming out there was SOOOOOOO much hype because people expected their favorite characters to be possible DLC. Then I heard a nasty rumor that the 2 special characters were actually premade on the disk, but Capcom was making everybody pay for those 2. Now I hear that there is going to me a totally NEW copy of the game, so Capcom wants you to buy the game a second time. wtf Capcom !!??
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