At least someones trying to put out RTS games at a time when RTS's and PC's are supposed to be on their way to extinction.
Blizzard reveals two-day sales of latest RTS exceeds platinum status but fail to match Wings of Liberty.
Blizzard Entertainment announced today that StarCraft II: Heart of the Swarm sold through 1.1 million copies worldwide during its first 48 hours. This includes physical and digital copies, though a breakdown of sales between the two was not divulged.
Heart of the Swarm is the first of two expansions for Wings of Liberty. The third and final entry--Legacy of the Void--is currently in development and has no release date. It will focus on the Protoss race.
For more on Heart of the Swarm, check out GameSpot's review.
At least someones trying to put out RTS games at a time when RTS's and PC's are supposed to be on their way to extinction.
I'm sad to see this. Battle.Net 2.0 troubled launch and poor design choices decimated Blizzard's community. No clan support, no public chat channels, no way to share maps with your friends - the list is endless.
While Heart of the Swarm repairs Battle.Net 2.0 and restores it to the state in which Battle.Net 1.0 - which is now 10 years old - was, it just isn't enough.
Battle.Net 2.0 literally ruined StarCraft. Really sad in my opinion. It didn't have to be this way.
that campaign can't be as fun and interesting as they used to be, when you're limited to only one race per game
They probably would've sold more if it wasn't so expensive. I thought expansions are usually around $20.
@tim1935 Agreed. 40$ to much for expansion, cant compare it to full game.
@tim1935 It's Blizzard, not EA. So people flock and buy like sheeps anyway, no matter what they do :)
That's why they can charge whatever they want, even though it is only an expansion.
@Fanible I'm not saying which price would be right for an expansion, but it just shouldn't be more than full games. Not talking about SC2 WoL necessarily, but I've noticed that I can get a huge load of games, whether brand new, or even pre-order ones for cheaper than HotS would cost.
Now, if that isn't absurd I don't know what is.
Just an example, Bioshock Infinite costs less in quite a few places than HotS. And upcoming Watch_Dogs, which looks awesome, is less as well.
I can't remember exactly how much I, unfortunately, paid for WoL, maybe £35?, but for an expansion to cost about the same, something is wrong.
I don't care if someone argues that it is long enough to warrant the price. Point is, like you said as well, it is an expansion, nothing more.
But, like said, whether you buy it or not, your money, not mine. I won't be. I'm fed with Blizzard, not just SC2.
In my books, their downfall from top to flop in matter of few years has been an achievement on its own :D
@S4E @LJLuz @tim1935
The only notable expansions that could compare at a better value would be that from Rockstar (the GTAIV DLC and Red Dead Redemption DLC). No one else offers expansions like this. EA and the likes offer simplistic DLC. Mostly non-nonsensical add-ons that end up costing even more than an expansion in the end, and offer less content over a great period of time.
Expansions from past games before the stupid (and ironically sheep-following buyers) of DLC became the norm, they were typically $30.00. This was when games cost only $45-50. $40 for an expansion (which is not full price) is right in line when the original games now cost $60. It's virtually no different.
Furthermore the idea that they are splitting the game into three is an exaggerated claim at best. Wings of Liberty had 30 missions, which is normal for a full single player RTS game. The idea that the game should have included all three races with 70-90 missions, while it would have been amazing, is more wishful thinking than a realistic outlook. To attempt such a feat also would have delayed the game by a few more years (if not several).
The best thing about this string of conversation that they would have sold more if it was cheaper, while maybe true, is a minute point. It didn't sell THAT far less than Wings of Liberty, and considering it IS only an expansion, it's quite an impressive number. To expect an expansion to sell the same amount or more as the original game is a bizarre thought.
The biggest problem the expansions are facing is the spread out in time. You're going to have a natural fan base diminish in interest when the expansions are taking so long to produce (which is because they're more like brand new full single player games, not just expansions).
@LJLuz I have no problem with that thinking, and not with people who want to spend their money on this either. Up to everyone themselves how they want to "waste" their money.
What I don't like is people trying to justify the price of this expansion with some ridiculous excuses. Or "do your research" comments. This is not for you LJLuz, but saying that (about research), I can also say, I know exactly how it goes and I don't like it.
@bonzibuddyxxx ... speaking of sheeps :D
I guess you are referring to yourself with that 5 year remark, because to me you sound exactly like these people that make the industry go this way? And the part about ignorance fits you quite well as well.
Blizzard splits SC2 in three parts and sells all of them as full priced games, clever business strategy no doubt, when people like you happily pay :)
Blizzard is laughing all the way to the bank.
It' utterly impossible to match WoL as you have to already own WoL to play HotS.
I really enjoyed HotS, i felt their biggest problem was not so much in the writing as it was in the fact it came out 2 friggin years after the first. Everyone's played the crap out of it already.
3 reasons why 1.1 million copies are not matched by 1.5 million of WOL .
1)- It's expansion .
2)- Worse marketing campaign than WOL (I read a lot of people on reviews throughout the internet saying they didn't know about the launch) .
3)- Diablo 3 hate .
0.04 million less copies are not a big deal , in this era when game sells more than 1 million in whole year as a multiplatform game is considered a success . Here we have a exclusive to one platform game suffering from above mentioned reasons and sold 1.1 million in 2 days (already earned around 50 million dollars) and that's just a start . Will easily sell more than 6 million copies in a year .
@Cloud_imperium You also forgot to mention that this should have already been part of SC2, instead of Blizzards' blatant money-making adventure, mutilated game that was spread into multiple parts.
But hey ho, people are still buying it, even though Blizzard screwed them over with this as well.
@Cloud_imperium ...Its actually 0.4 million less, not 0.04 million. Sorry. ;-)
Good to see an actual expansion which seems rare these days when companies would rather nickel and dime you to death. Hots adds a great new campaign and makes some great new additions and changes to the MP if your still into SC2 then theres a lot there for you well worth the money imo.
@Gen007 I agree. I would rather get a $40 expansion that I can put hours into than a $10 dlc that I would play maybe for one hour. Dead SPace 3 DLC is a PERFECT example. All they did was cut the ending and packaged it for $10. But even with this expansion, people still bitch about Blizzard. Why not get whole campaign at once? Why did they break it into 3 episodes? Wahh.
No matter how good you think you are at this game, there's always some kid in Korea that's better than you.
I'm still interested in SC2, even after all the horror stories. Probably wait for the final bundle wholesale.
@DiscGuru101 Most horror stories actually come from D3 and WoW haters/frustrated fans. Of course a lot of people are still idealizing Brood War and think of SC2 as a giant step back. Imo WoL is great and Hots is even greater.
@DiscGuru101 Don't trust haters . Those who shout loud are the first to buy .
I am really starting to hate people that call themselves gamers now. Maybe it is just the online comments that I hate, But I miss the days were people knew that the story line of a game is someone's novel and not open for debate. If you like a game fine if you don't like a game fine either way people didn't spend month after month trolling or trashing a game that others will enjoy just fine. They just played something else END OF STORY!
@Digifox006 There isn't a whole lot to play right now, maybe that's the problem. I understand where you're coming from, there is an awful lot of negativity surrounding forums these days.
The campaign was good, not great (WoL gave a great feel of the world but this one was back to old style floating heads giving you barebones intel, and it lacked the options WoL had). Still, for the amount of content it had, 40 bucks isn't bad--remember, people complain about DLC now but this is technically an expansion, not DLC, which people used to not have issues with.
I've got problems with Blizzard myself, as I'm not a fan of the DRM, the AH in Diablo III, or this pandering to professional players who make up less than 1% of the population in SCII. However, I'm even more annoyed with people just saying "Blizzard sucks, Diablo III sucks, SCII sucks, everything sucks" with no explanation. They just assume everyone else shares the same opinion as them. It's fanboy myopia at its worst.
I don't agree with the price point of 40$, so gonna have to shell out 140$ for the complete SC2 experience? Naw, waiting till its on sale.
@Talok Would have bought it for $19.99. Will wait too. How $140? Did you buy the Limited edition? With the price now I come to $100
I got HOTS and WOL as well. I never played Starcraft but i did play Age of Empire's, Age of Empire's 2 Age of King's, Age of Empire's 2 Conqueror's, and Age of Empire's III. Which were made by Ensemble Studios. i also was into Age of Mythology and the Titian's expansion which was also made by Ensemble Studio's. Another RTS that i played was also a game called Empire Earth. Can't recall the dev from that one because well it's been a long time since i played Empire Earth. Another one is Lucasart's own literation of Age of Empire's but with a Star Wars twist. It was called Star Wars Battle GroundsThen there was Warcraft but i never played the first two i think. I have played Warcraft 3 The Reign of Chaos and the expansion pack Frozen throne.The point that i am trying to get across is i like Starcraft 2 and it's sadly the last franchise or even publisher that is still willing to contribute to it's franchise that played a part in establishing the RTS games that are around today. Blizzard maybe making some questionable business decision's but at least Starcraft is still around which carry's alot of the past RTS games that also was one of the puzzle piece's to today's RTS games.
Stainless steel studios!!!!!! Too bad they went out of business. Empire Earth was awesome.
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@demonkingx5 comment from PC fanboy LOL..
Just finished HOTS and I thought besides the usual, cliched action scenes and dialogue (which was still entertaining btw) it was very well done. I kind of got bored of Wings of Liberty because I thought the characters, besides Tychus and Jim, were lame-ducks. Definitely, not the case with this one. The cutscenes were superb....my favorite one being Shifting Perspective. She was so badass in that one....
What a complete turn around for Blizzard. They used to be THE name in gaming. Diablo 3 and Starcraft 2 weren't anywhere near their predecessors. Blizzard spent too much time milking World of Warcraft. Also, I can't believe people are saying cutscenes are streamed and not on the computer? wtf? What a waste of a company.
I'm not one of those 1.1 million. I'm done with Blizzard and the lazy arsh attitude they have.
WOW is a joke any more, D3 was a failure of epic proportions and SC just doesn't interest me any more.
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