Square Enix will reveal the 'Future of Final Fantasy' on June 11

@lethal41 @Imperiacommando @Rennik_Repotsir I dont have too mention everything in my mind on a videogame comment section im just pointing certain aspect for the games that is all

@Imperiacommando @lethal41 @Rennik_Repotsir  well with comments solely about the engine and " im all for final fantasy looking like that" what other conclusions would i come to?

@Imperiacommando @Rennik_Repotsir That's fine; and it would look awesome to see the LE at work. I'm just saying it should be more then that...

Especially if they want my sale...

@lethal41 @Imperiacommando @Rennik_Repotsir Im not just asking for visual improvement you jump too quickly on your own mindless conclusion

@Imperiacommando @Rennik_Repotsir  it's people like you who babble on about pretty visuals which have killed FF. Who cares what it looks like, ff games need good story and a vibrant world, graphics are secondary, if that.

@Rennik_Repotsir @Imperiacommando Im all in for Final Fantasy XV looking like that

@shingui5 @Tangsta03 hahaha poor abused woman getting left out of games. A tear.

@shingui5 @bunchanumbers @Tangsta03 Oh ya.  Witthout Vann who would run around screaming he was Captan Basch.  See he was uber important.

@shingui5 @bunchanumbers @Tangsta03 I agree that Vann was completely dispensable, he was just introduced to have a younger protagonist since they first intended for Basch to be the main character (that would have been awesome), and to explain things more easily to the player since he was stranger to the political situation. Tidus on the other hand is central to X's plot.

@Tangsta03 "men relate more to male characters, women relate more to female characters. It's common sense, "

yet, i don't think that is true. I believe men can relate to women as much as they want to relate to women, and vice versa. The idea of gender getting in the way of people connecting to a character on an emotional level, i believe is a falsehood, a falsehood that is helping to keep women protags out of games unjustly. 

@Tangsta03 @bunchanumbers @Kristan1711 honestly? I'd play a FF with the main character as a Moogle if the story was good enough.

@bunchanumbers @Tangsta03 @Kristan1711 Blame that on the Japanese RPG weirdos, they prefer their males to look effeminate. Beats me as to why.

They're still 'manly', however, how they actually look is irrelevant. Sure there are the emo leads, but they're only meant to represent all the teen angst the core crowd (teenagers) goes through in real life, so the characters can be more relatable and the story more meaningful.

@Tangsta03 @bunchanumbers @Kristan1711 it just shows that the males aren't exactly male in a jrpg. well mainly FF games. Even in 6 if you seen character art work. Cyan was running around in tights and of course there was kefka artwork too.

@bunchanumbers @Kristan1711 @Tangsta03 And that's the fault of the male sex, how?

@Kristan1711 @Tangsta03 thats true. tidus, vaan, even cloud was pretty effeminate. Look at the Wall market scene. He was in drag and even beat tifa and aeris in a beauty contest.

@Kristan1711 @Tangsta03 A result of poor writing. If they wanted a 'manly' character, why can't they just make them male?

Different isn't always better.

@Tangsta03 But aren't the women of Final Fantasy manlier than the men anyway? 

@shingui5 I don't know why people need it to be spelt out to them: men relate more to male characters, women relate more to female characters. It's common sense, why do I need to elaborate on that?

On that note, the FF crowd is still predominantly male so it only makes sense we keep the lead male. Political correctness aside, that is the simple truth.

@shingui5 they absolutely need a real good story this time. All the flash and pizzazz won't do a single thing for their sales. look at xiii. I would buy FF XV if it was built on a snes engine and had a fantastic story.

@Tangsta03 @shingui5 well, you are the one who started out saying you'd rather punch kittens than see a female protag. If you can admit you can relate to them (i don't see why you can't, them being human, and having human emotions as much as men), then why take this stance?

Admittedly my first comment was rather brash, but i have no problems with female or male protags. Devs should put someone into that position if it fits the narrative, and the story they are trying to tell. 

@Tangsta03 @shingui5 I don't mind whether they're male or female. Just reduce the amount of characters in the story. Have one playable one too. I want to establish a bond and relate to one character really well, not 6 of them poorly.

@shingui5 @Tangsta03 sure we can relate to females, but we can relate more to our own sex

and if males can relate to females, then females can relate to males, so what argument are you using?

@Tangsta03 @shingui5 @bunchanumbers I bought the game for lulu. she was hot

@shingui5 @bunchanumbers @Tangsta03 Vann was as relevant to the plot as Ashe was, the game didn't focus on any particular character. Tidus was definitely got more story and gameplay time than Yuna, no idea what you're harping on about there, I'm sure no one bought the game for Yuna alone.

@shingui5 @bunchanumbers @Tangsta03 that's a fair argument in Xs case. He was more of a narrator and not really the main character. Although he did say repeatedly it was his story lol

@Tangsta03 @shingui5 thats not really about Lightning being female, more about her being a bad character (everyone was badly written in that game to be fair). 

All protags should be likeable or relatable, regardless of gender (males can relate to females, so please don't use that argument :{ ) 

@shingui5 @Tangsta03 Terra was ok, I didn't mind her, but I never felt the story revolved around her so she isn't typically a proper FF lead. 

Plus Terra was actually likeable as a character. If they really must use a female lead, at least make her likeable. Lightning was nothing but an anal b*tch that can barely manage a smile the entire game. She had no charm and barely any redeeming qualities. 

@bunchanumbers @Tangsta03 @shingui5 you could expand it a bit.

I'd argue FFXII and FFX both had females leads. (Asch/Yuna) Though they had female leads in a de facto sense. Both games were under the delusion that Vann/Tidus were actually relevant to the plot, which they weren't. More so in Vann's situation. 

@Tangsta03 @shingui5 lets see... x-2, xiii, xiii-2, xiii-3, 6 (tera)... 5 of the ff series has female leads. That's not a bad ratio at all

@Tangsta03 @shingui5 FF6 had Terra as a lead, and that game is regarded as one of the best. The precedent is there, so why shouldn't more females be the leads?