OK...we'll see what console is still alive after 5 years...I doubt it'll be x360. Microsoft will probably make a new xbox in 3 years anyway, and then you'll have to buy that one because they will stop making games for the x360. In Japan they are proud of what they make, so they keep it alive longer. Look at the PS2, it's still alive, and then look at the xbox???? So in 5 years we can still buy games for the PS3. You people who buy x360 should just use your money on a gaming PC, it's probably more worth after 5 years. And when a software company makes a gaming console it's full of bugs and miss alot of important things for the future...like...aa....HDMI.....and..aaa...a bigger storage disc......"oh wait...I'll just buy a new x360"....and then you have spent more money on the x360 then a PS3. Microshaft is just trying to kill the console marked with low tech crap
French daily Les Echos reports that Sony will indeed unveil the ubiquitously rumored new version of its console tomorrow.
Rumors of a 40GB PlayStation 3 have been circulating for months. However, the past week has seen a flurry of credible sources in the United States as well as the United Kingdom, Australia, and Italy say that its release is imminent. Nevertheless, American and European Sony reps have steadfastly declined to address the reports, citing corporate policy of ignoring all information not released through official channels.
Now it looks as if Sony reps will need to learn how to say "We do not comment on rumors and speculation" in another language. According to a report in the French newspaper Les Echos, Sony Europe will officially unveil the 40GB PS3 tomorrow for a price point of 399 euros (approx. $564), which is 200 euros (around $283) less than the 599 euro (about $846) 60GB model. The new console will apparently go on sale in Europe around October 13, a date in line with an earlier France-based report of a "big bang" announcement on October 12.
The scenario outlined by Les Echos was much like a report today on the British Web site Pocket Lint, which says that the 40GB PS3 is coming to the UK. However, the former report is receiving much more credence because it comes via the well-respected Parisian financial daily founded in 1928. (Think the Financial Times en francais.) The paper also has pan-European ties because it is owned by the British media group Pearson PLC.
Les Echos also quotes a rep for an unnamed publisher confirming--and praising--the cheaper PS3. "It is very good news for us," said the publisher rep. "Removing 200 euros from the price of Apple's iPhone and Sony's PlayStation 3 shows that the consumers have true doubts about the high prices set by electronics giants." France is home to such publishers as Ubisoft and Atari parent Infogrames.
um ps3 has 3 good games out which is RFOM warhawk and HS which is a rental so how is ps3 not lacking games when i have 37 xbox 360 games i bought and plus in thoes 37 most of them are one ps3 and 360 in the first year sold quiet well so i dont know what you talking about basicly and call of duty 2 pdz fight night 3 and graw where games that came out in less then 6 months then a year later gears vegas double agent oblivion saints row start coming but it took ps3 a while for thoes games to hit that system so um before you judge 360 have facts. and ps3 has no software to back up 600 dollars while the 360 was only backing up 400 so theres a price diffeence and plus all the multiplatform games play and look better on 360 so that gives a reason why ps3 dont have no games dont get my wrong i have a ps3 il take a picture of it with my 360 and 37 games and 2 ps3 games with the WoW and the expansion on top of them
-ChancreScolex- "Man the idiocy is rampant in this topic. I'm doubting many of these so called PS3 owners have one or even played one. Resistance a Gears rip off? Wtf how? Because you shoot aliens? Beat Warhawk in a day? You can't BEAT Warhawk, well you can get all the badges/medals/ribbons but I haven't seen anyone who has done that yet. PS3 is not lacking damn games, if you haven't noticed there's been a steady game stream lately and it's about to continue for the holiday season. The SAME thing happened to the 360 in its first year yet no one was talking crap, hypocrites!! In any case this is good news for the people who hadn't picked one up yet, the more the merrier." Allow me to buy you a beer, my good man.
"Autolycus okay so teh games that are woth the price of the ps3 are? gt5? *(4 was the WORST one to day on ps2, most disppointing game of all time to me, so im going) NO. Devil May Cry ? nope thats going to be on 360. Um warhawk? Lame after 1 hour. Motorstorm, Lame after an hour. Metal gear solid, delayed and not worh 500 (or a 400 dollars) price tag." All completely just an opinion.
santiagochile None of us owns a crystal ball, however, you must admit that right now the 360 future is bright and the PS3's future looks tenuous at best. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I strongly disagree. I see the XBOX360 in last place at the end of this console war. I think the Wii will sell tens of millions. The only console that could come close is the PS3. ---- dude, time to wake up and come back to reality, Youare a sony fanboy and you only see what you want to see. Not the reality that everyone else sees. SONY IS IN A VERY DISTANT 3rd and WILL STAY THAT WAY. you sony fanboys have been saying everything about game xyz since ps3 came out and guess. Every game but MGS came out, nobody cares enough.
okay so teh games that are woth the price of the ps3 are? gt5? *(4 was the WORST one to day on ps2, most disppointing game of all time to me, so im going) NO. Devil May Cry ? nope thats going to be on 360. Um warhawk? Lame after 1 hour. Motorstorm, Lame after an hour. Metal gear solid, delayed and not worh 500 (or a 400 dollars) price tag. There is nothing EXCLUSIVE to SCEA, that is worth customers spending the money. Again, we MAYBE sell 1 ps3 every 4 months in our HIGH TRAFFIC gamestop store. It didnt pick up on the price drop and it doesnt pick up now. This is irrelevant news for Sony fans. Give it up, they picked blu-ray as being more important the video games.
jimjam146. I'm a little more optimistic about the PS3's prospects. A quick look shows 3 PS3 games with the 9+ and 8 games with 9+ for the 360 which has been out twice as long. The 360's ace in the hole was simply they have good games and came out first. I think they do have a bright future and will have a long and successful run, but to call the PS3's future "tenuous" because of a slow start is naive in my opinion. Clearly analysts who track the industry feel the same way. And you can critisize the analysts all you want but they aren't fanboys and they aren't biased. They get paid to give their views on industries and if an industry, or a company, isn't going to produce the type of growth investors want to see in the long run, they aren't doing themselves any favors by releasing feel good predictions. Are they right 100% of the time? Of course not, but I'll take the analysts predictions over rants on forums any day. And I agree with their assessments. The PS3 future looks bright.
This system has to have BC. As long as there are firmware updates it should have BC. Unless they have different updates for the 40 GB version. Most firmware increases the amount of software emulation for ps2 games.
@dakrider66: Oh I get you now, so it was another faulty 360 argument. I agree with you, if the problem happens again with my 360 I'm gonna trade it at the store I got it and if they won't then I'll probably buy a fixed one. If the 360 worked fine I'd go for that but if it was just one I'd get a PS3, I'm gonna get a 40gb one if its the right price. I'll never use the multimedia card so don't care about that and I'll ot use the USB ports (do you need to use wireless usb adaptors for the six axis?) and EE never was in the UK PS3's so I'm fine with that. Only thing I don't like is that I'll prbably have to get another hard drive since I'd want to save my games to the hard drive to speed up loading times and I'd probably want to use the PSN too.
None of us owns a crystal ball, however, you must admit that right now the 360 future is bright and the PS3's future looks tenuous at best. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- I strongly disagree. I see the XBOX360 in last place at the end of this console war. I think the Wii will sell tens of millions. The only console that could come close is the PS3.
Somedude69 - I own a 60 GB, and I'm yet to use 40 GBs of my HDD, use more than two USB ports, use the multimedia card slots (will probably never use those), and even the 80 GB doesnt use the E.E., but rather software emulation, which I'm sure the 40 GB will use. I'd buy the 40 GB over the 80 GB my self, especially considering the HDD is upgradable.
darkride66 - I disagree with your assesment that 8's are all you need to sell consoles. Sony's lack of "editor's choice" type games is killing them right now, especially when there are so many on the 360. I don't consider the Wii to be a long term threat because it only has the power of the original Xbox and that's just not next-gen enough to win long term. The best selling entertainment franchise I was referring to is of course Halo 3. I think you might be being overly optimistic with your assesment about the PS3 but who knows? None of us owns a crystal ball, however, you must admit that right now the 360 future is bright and the PS3's future looks tenuous at best.
Sigil-otaku. No no. 360 games look fine. I love mine. I meant staring at the actually disk and not being able to play them is rather annoying. I have nothing against the 360, other than I wished mine worked. The games are fantastic. As the resident game guy in my office, when people ask my opinion I'll tell them the 360 has the best game lineup right now but the failure rate should give you pause. Would you buy a new car if you knew it would break down every 6 months if the store said they'd fix it for free for 3 years? I think that if you could only buy one console you'd be better of with the PS3 in the long run. That's just my opinion.
Why is everyone complaining about a lower price?! The ps3 is a great console that was to expensive for most gamers. With that price lowered more people will have acces to great games.. Isn't that what's the most important? These console wars are making me sick..
Who would want to buy this PS3. Its crap, smaller HDD, only two USB ports, the multimedia card slots and gone, and for the final kicker. NOT BACKWARDS COMPATIBLE. Once again, Sony is fuggin up. Don't belive me? See for urself, http://ps3.ign.com/articles/825/825213p1.html
Oh yeah, I agree Sigil-otaku. I'm just saying I wouldnt consider Halo 3 a high point to compare other games graphics to. I really dont think Halo 3's graphics stand out at all, but I do think they look nice. It certainly isnt a bad looking game by any means.
and or the record, building a circle box (because a circle is made of infinite triangles, which is teh strongest geometrical shape) doesnt make it stronger. If you can get teh analogy, PS3 is overkill and SONY is asking all developers to change the way they do things. Its why sony fails @ everything...they want it there way or no way.
@carljohnson: Halo 3 has good graphics in my opinion, not too many games do actually have better graphics than it as whenever I ask anyone they don't have any example except Gears which is on the 360, Heavenly sword or games that will come out in 4 months or something. I'm not saying Halo's graphics are ace but they are definitely next gen and close to the top graphics titles.
Blueray, wi-fi, bluetooth and every PS3 has HDMI. PS3 is on a tech level, better than the 360!! And once the big games come out example: Drakes uncharted, Ratchet & Clank, Haze, Killzone, Final Fantasy and so on and so on! The PS3 will take off! The 40 gig model is good for people on a budget, and is good for sony because i believe alot will sell over christmas!! ---- agreed, what in gods name does tech have to do with games. Sony released a one off CPU, asking every developer to take a new "standard" to develop games for the ps3. blu-ray's ONLy benefit it carries more space. HDMI and DVI have INDENTICLE quality. HD-DVD and Blu-Ray have IDENTICLE quality. Look @ sony's big picture. ...to get Blu-Ray in every houshold and make $3.00 profit on EVERY COPY PRINTED OF EVERY MOVIE ON BLU-RAY OR PS3. Thats what PS3 is all about, not video games.
Sigil-otaku, Halo 3 isnt that great looking. There are alot more games that better looking than Halo 3, on the PS3 and 360. It's no where near the league of Gears. Gears of War has probably the best graphics out there for now, it's amazing.
Yes I can see the argument having you state errors a few hundred times more but either way I'll let it slide since that is all you can really insult about the 360. I never said there was a problem with the 20gb model it was just never released in the UK or europe and discontinued in the US so it must be unpopular to say the least. It is better than a core 360 no argument, I got a core and bought a hard drive later but that was only cos the premiums were all sold out. So your saying looking at 360 games is hard or something? Gears and Halo 3 look better than anything on the PS3 so far except Heavenly sword beats Halo 3 but Gears is better than that.
muff07. Hmm. You seem to have something. Yuck_too's article is from Sept 07, but their data for the Wii seems to be from Dec 06, before the PS3 went on sale in the UK. I guess my article is just fine.
Heck yes man. This will help the PS3 alot, and seeing as they have alot of important releases all the way until Spring this will surely boost the PS3 by a crap load. Price and lack of software are the only things hurting the PS3... and time seems to be curing both. :-)
enoslives7 299.00 or no deal if thats dollars thats the lowest price the origonal x-box ever reached in the uk and the ps2 was never below 200$ europe is consantly abused by the gaming insutry
That's right, I think MS is DOOMED in Europe if they don't cut the price xD ...however, monkey C monkey do.
jimjam146. I respectfully disagree. First off, 8+ games sell consoles. It's important that quality games come out for the PS3, as it is for every console. The Wii is the best selling console, (not counting the DS), which I believe you are referring to with "number one selling entertainment franchise". And I don't understand how anyone can have a problem with this. It's a PS3. It's cheaper. What's the issue? It'll have 65 games by Christmas and a bright future when developers have some serious time to develop (good games usually take time, as I'm sure you're aware). Competition is good for everyone, and this is great news. Period.
Yuck_Too Not sure what in the world you are talking about...but clearly it involves making up fictional information for just about everything. Wii named fastest-selling console in UK history 3rd September 2006 10:12 GMT yes then the ps3 released in march 2007 and sold 25,000 more on its first day which if you calculate and upgrade to the american population would be 150,000 consoles more than the wii sold i cant see this being effective till the games come out in early 2008
edroc23 "Sony has tried to stay quiet is because MS will try to price cut theirs as soon as they see sony did. Monkey see Monkey do" - MS just did a price cut about a month to two months back remember. It wasn't as drastic of a price cut as Sony is now doing because they didn't need to. I think you have your companies mixed up. In my opinion people are still complaining because now they now what the games are and are like. See if Sony was cheaper up front people would have bought the system because at that point there wasn't a picture painted of no games. Now Sony is lowering the price but people know going in that a lot the games play better on the 360 and there is a far larger selection of games on the 360.
Yuck_Too. Sorry. The PS3 was the fastest selling in UK history, but your info is more up to date. Still, it had the best console launch ever in the UK, even if the Wii (what, a 3rd of the price?) has currently overtaken it in total sales. Did you want to correct my spelling errors as well? My point is it's selling well, has a nice lineup of games and looks to become cheaper. What's not to like? As for Sigil-otaku. Perhaps the shortage of 360's was due to them all being repaired. Their center in the UK was having 2500 360's returned a day before they shut it down. (http://www.360-gamer.com/news.asp?id=1143) I don't understand your problem with the 20gb PS3. Still better than a Core 360. And you might like to hold your 360 games and look at them without playing them. I don't. It's beyond annoying. Here's the link for the UK PS3 fastest selling thing just so Yuck_too doesn't accuse me of being a liar, just of being a little slow. http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/6499841.stm
Having games in the 8 range does not sell consoles. You have to crack the nines with your exclusives as Microsoft has done. Also, if all the 360s out there are broken, I guess it has become the number one selling entertainment franchise because people like the box art.
Games that score over 8 do not sell consoles. You need to crack nine on your exclusives and I don't think Sony has done that once yet. Also, if the 360s are all broken, then how come so many people bought Halo 3. There must be a couple of consoles out there that are still workling!
@darkride66: 50+ isn't very many games saying it's been out a year. It was only the fastest selling console in the UK cos MS ran out of stock since they didn't bother holding them back to produce more, Sony made around 250,000 and I can't remember how many they put out but they didn't sell out whereas MS did so the fastest selling console thing doesn't matter. Yeah it'll give me something to laugh at, wasn't the 20gb discontinued because it was unpopular and people didn't want it? So whats different with an extra 20gb and barely anymore better games? I'm waiting for my second and it is annoying but it's better to have a console that has games atleast.
--darkride66 -- Not sure what in the world you are talking about...but clearly it involves making up fictional information for just about everything. Wii named fastest-selling console in UK history 3rd September 2007 10:12 GMT
This is great news. New console, cheaper without giving up anything important. Already 50+ games, 60% of which are rated 8 or higher (from this site) plus a huge library of PS2 games. The PS3 was already the fastest selling console in the UK, ever, and this should give them a nice little boost. Plus, it'll give people something to do while they wait for their 360's to come back from repairs. Right now, my copy of Halo 3 might as well be used to prop up a table leg because I'm waiting for my 4th 360. Warhawk is currently making me forget I even own a 360.
I would seriously consider buying one at that price point. Especially when the dual shock 3 releases (which they will no doubt bundle with it). 2008-2009 can possibly be a good catch up year for Sony.
You have to feel a little sorry for Sony at this point. They are trying everything in their power to boost sales for their console. I do not think that price is the problem with the PS3 considering it has BluRay built in. People will always pay more if there is a perception that they are getting more. The PS3s tragic flaw so far is its lack of quality games. Even the delayed multi-platform games are turning out inferior the the 360 versions. Soon, Sony will have to start worrying about losing their existing customers in addition to gaining new ones.
kbzoner...you must be pretty naive you think the PS3 is going to take off...i mean bringing up "killer apps" like haze and KZ2, what makes you think they wont score another 4.5 like ur lair "killer app" hmmm?
--kbzoner -- On a "tech" level the NeoGeo, Dreamcast and original Xbox were better as well...and then there is the Wii, which doesn't even play DVD's. Clearly it's all about the tech...
to kbzoner= i'm sorry but be honest with yourself and stop being a fanboy. Sony is not going to "take off" at this rate. I hope that Sony does get it together, but everytime I turn around they throw mud in their own face. www.myspace.com/cainehellnaw
o_O people are complaining now about the price drop? Wow, first you *itch and moan about it being too expensive, and then when they finally give you what you want you throw it back at them saying it's a desparation move. Yes the 40gb is missing like 2 things from the others (or 3 if you count the EE) but seriously, if it was that important to you then you'd own one of the other models already.
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