Oh great, and to make things worse, the B button, which is normally the 2nd kick, and usually bottom right, is placed top left, which should be the 1st punch. I'm quite certain now that the decision of default button placement is done out of random color preferences rather than conventionality.
Peripheral manufacturer introduces mod-friendly stick aimed at competitive fighting game fans, puts call out for beta testers to put prototype versions through their paces.
The Tokyo Game Show typically serves as an opportunity for Japanese companies to roll out their latest gaming hardware and software, but California-based peripheral maker Razer today used the show to unveil plans for its new Xbox 360 arcade stick.
Razer didn't reveal an official name or price for the stick, but it did release a few mock-ups of the stick in its current prototype form. However, before everything is finalized, Razer is picking roughly 200 pro gamers, modders, and "members of the arcade enthusiast community" to receive prototype versions of the stick and have their feedback considered before the design is nailed down for production. Interested gamers can sign up for the beta program--or suggest someone else whose feedback would be helpful--at Razer's official website.
The high-end arcade stick market in the US has flourished since 2009, when the launch of Capcom's Street Fighter IV prompted Mad Catz to release a $150 FightStick to compete with Japanese stick maker Hori's Real Arcade Pro offerings. Since then, Mad Catz has produced versions of its sticks for fighters like Super Street Fighter IV, BlazBlue, Marvel vs. Capcom 3, and the upcoming Street Fighter x Tekken. Meanwhile PDP has released a Mortal Kombat arcade stick that sells for $130 on its own but was also packed in with the $150 Mortal Kombat Tournament Edition bundle.
I always laugh when i see Xbox arcade sticks. Whoever who decided to spread those buttons out in a 3 by 1 configuration obviously has no idea about how fighting games are played. It has a be either a 3 by 3 (for street fighter) or 2 by 2 (for everything else like Tekken, Virtua Fighter etc.) Even in games like Soul Calibur, where it's basically 3 attacks and 1 block, people still play it with a 2 by 2 configuration in the arcades. No seasoned arcade player would switch to a 3 by 1 configuration.
Yeah, I know you can reassign the buttons, but if you had to do so just to get what is considered the norm and law of the arcade industry, you know someone up there screwed up.
@SolidTy no prob i recommend turtle beach for headsets controllers....... i am just sticking with the standard one's.
@SolidTy can't i got it at best buy my brother is also on his 3rd head set in less than a year from them. There stuff is amazing when it works but no matter how good of care you take with em they break
@TheArcade I guess I'm not skilled enough in writing to explain my self more than that, without you going off-end about this or that. The subject has been completely dilated and has evolved into useless banter. You and @SolidTy should have noticed it also. I can point out many of problems here but that would only cause more trauma. Remember, there is no %100 way of telling what a person really feels when they post something. A simple question can seem like an attack threw the readers eyes. Without a face to look at and a voice to listen to, you can only go off context and intuition which can be very misleading.
@SolidTy: Believe it or not I actually missed this post, me thinks Gamespot glitched out on me too. I didn't read the rest of it but I understand now why you post the way you do. Your text has become a weakness for me, what's helping you is straining me. XD I know you don't mean it, just one of those unfortunate things. Anyway I am in no condition to go dig for that Daigo link. But let's just say if I saw this earlier I might have went looking for it. Okay, the floaters in my eyes are starting to merge with my own text, going now. I wish you well in your travels, I'm sorry for the miscommunication.
@SolidTy: ARGH! You're killing me here man. Look I don't really have a problem with you. I just can't read your posts properly, it's more a health concern than it is my preference. Why do you post that way? Especially when you know it hurts my vision. Is there something wrong with your keyboard? Serious question. I'm not trying to be smart. Initially I assumed you came at me wrong, mainly because of your posting style. But if you can't control it perhaps I misjudged. Either way I can't keep reading your posts even if I wanted to. I had to sit back and rest my eyes just now because of those bright words. Tell me what's going on here.
Almost forgot. @FusionRain: I still don't get you but to each his own that's all. I honestly just wanted to know your views and opinions on the matter but if you don't feel like sharing I understand.
@SolidTy: Maybe I'll assume you're genuine if you stop posting like that. At least when you speak to me directly. Seriously man, I shouldn't have to squint my eyes everytime I look at your posts. Everyone elses posts are fine. The only time I have to struggle is when reading people forming walls of text, all captitals, or in your case, all bolded text. I usually ignore your posts but when you're posting messages that wind up in my inbox it becomes problematic. After we get passed this problem, IF we get passed this problem, then we can talk Daigo.
@SwiftusMaximus: About "The Tank" does the developer offer custom art labels? I want a picture of Mai Shiranui on my Arcade Stick. =) Hori HRAP is another solid choice.
@TheArcade Never mind this whole conversation. I never meant to go this deep into this because I honestly don't feel that strongly about it. I can see you do and that's probably what got you started. I only thought people played fighters on PS3 more and that was it. If anyone seemed offended it was you and if so I apologize for wasting your time because I really don't care that much. I don't wish to continue this so drop your final thoughts if you want and this will be all form me, bye.
I'm sure this will be a great fight stick being a Razer Product ,but if you cannot wait ... I highly recommend - The Tank. Value priced $90-$100 AU ,tough solid steel construction ,Very responsive. There are 2 models 360 and PS3. I have 3 kids who punish them and they still don't miss a beat. Hope this helps. Good gaming ;)
@FusionRain: Pro's do not give a rats ass about bells and whistles, they're only interested in which version plays better. For instance the PS3 version of SSF4, SF4, suffers from button lag, MvC3 framerate occassionally chugs during intense activity (it's worth noting the 360 version has screen tearing issues some say the PS3's issue hinders gameplay more), SSF2T:HDR (don't know the specifics on that one though I heard 360 version is better). In most cases these games are created on 360 then ported to PS3 with such downgrades. You have some that were made first on PS3 (MvC3) but even that version is heavily flawed at high level play.
@FusionRain: You seem offended. I didn't need all that deep an explanation, I was just curious to see if you had any cohesive reasoning behind why you don't believe 360 is a good platform for fighters. I was trying to understand you not everyone else since I'm aware of the consensus. I still don't understand your whole preference angle, you never said you disliked it but what am I supposed to think when I see a comment like, "I do not think X console is good for fighters." When I brought up the Nintendo systems I was just showing you how impressive a service record the 360 has built for itself as most people don't know that. I didn't HAVE to go into PS2 because it's library should be pathetically obvious. You don't just list a consoles faults when you're bringing up it's highlights. I know you didn't condemn the D-pad was just trying to find out your logic, call it sheer curiousity. WHY do YOU think 360 isn't as good for fighters?
@TheArcade I really didn't plan on going this deep into this. I really don't care what people play there games on. What I said is what I thought. I never said I didn't like it and you can't quote me there. I said nothing about the Wii or GameCube and if your comparing then you missed the PS2 which has tons of fighting games. I never even said anything about the D-pad either. It all comes down to preference really. You previously stated. "Pretty much all of the skilled players are on 360 because they prefer Xbox LIVE and superior versions of multiplatform fighters, like Super Street Fighter 4." When it comes down to big tournaments they are fought locally anyways so online wouldn't be a factor. Also If they are superior on 360 then why dose PS3 get extra content like Kratos on MK9?
I just bought a Madcatz TE stick. I'd also rather hold-off hoping for a fightpad from Razer. MadCatz Fightpad + Razer Onza = Best controller for fighting games period!!
@FusionRain: Why? Is the d-pad the only reason? Arcade enthusiasts are content with fighting games for the 360. It's got a surprising library of fighters ranging from King of Fighters, Garou, and Soul Calibur 1 all the way to DOA 4. I think the fact devs decided to give 360 such a healthy library of fighters speaks in volumes. It's got way more overall fighters than the Wii & Gamecube combined, it's fighting game library is on par with Saturn & Dreamcast. So what's not to like about it aside from the controller?
@dynomitemasta i wish i was lying the sticks broke the first one would not do anything then has soon has i got a replacement when i plugged it in it was stuck going left again i wish i was lying.
Seems rather pointless to me...I like d pads for fighting games and you need another joy stick for shooters ;/
@TheArcade Well I've never thought of the 360 as being a good platform for fighting games. I think the controller is great for shooters though. From history Razer makes good product's so I don't think this will be any exception. It's should do well as long as the price is right.
It looks really nice. I already have 3 sticks, so not sure how interested I am. Wish Razer wouldn't have been so late to the party though. I'm interested to see what parts they use.
@holtrocks So you went through 2 controllers in 2 months? If your gonna fib, at least say something believable dude.
Because MS needs to stay alive in Japan or else their stock will plummet. Hence this exclusive product, more importantly devs need the 360's support in the West, they aren't going to abandon them in the East.
@FusionRain: Daigo & Justin have Xbox LIVE gamertags, not only that. IIRC they prefer playing fighters on Xbox LIVE more than any other network. The majority of fighting game tourney's in Japan takes place on 360, despite the fact it's at a loweruser base than the competition. Furthermore the US is the opposite, they prefer PS3 for tournaments and casual play, however. Pretty much all of the skilled players are on 360 because they prefer Xbox LIVE and superior versions of multiplatform fighters, like Super Street Fighter 4. This new adjustable Arcade Stick makes sense for Xbox fighting game enthusiasts because 1.) The d-pad on the 360 is crap because it sometimes registers commands incorrectly. 2.) The pros are playing on 360, a very good example of this is MvC2. Plus there are a ton of fighters on 360.
@TheArcade They don't use 360's at fighting Tournaments like EVO. Well I've never seen any but who's to say I'm wrong?
Sounds like a good idea. Razer is mainly into making PC products, and they only branch into the consoles because of the versatility of Xinput. I hope this encourages Japanese developers to release fighting games on Steam. The only out there is Street Fighter. It's sad because it has to be categorized under "Action" since Japanese devs are so unjustifiably reluctant to embrace Steam.
I am shocked that Razer is bothering with a beta test... or that they even have a quality program of any sort!! They usually just dribble their products out, and watch the failures occur, and shrug their shoulders. I have had a Razer keyboard and mouse... both didn't make it a year without malfunctions popping up.
Dude sweet! I wan me one of those. It will really bring back that arcade nostalgia. Why did arcades have to go ? I think they would be sweet in the modern day.
Daigo & JWong are going to love this. I might order these so long as the manufacturers make custom art labels that can be plastered on the face of the stick.
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