E3 2010: Valve Software with Sony; Gabe Newell promises PS3 version will be "best console version" thanks to integration with developer's content-delivery system.
LOS ANGELES-- Sony's press briefing at the 2010 Electronic Entertainment Expo was full of dramatic moments, such as the surprise reveal of a new Twisted Metal. But the only truly shocking moment came as Sony Computer Entertainment America president Jack Tretton was appearing to introduce another game trailer…and the entire shrine auditorium went pitch black.
Then, on the on the huge presentation screens at the front of the Shrine Auditorium, a series of rotating concentric circles appeared--circles that were familiar to anyone who played the game Portal. Then, the computerized voice of GLADOs, the homicidal computer villain of the award-winning game, began to utter deranged mutterings about friendship over the speaker.
The lights came up and out walked a figure that elicited gasps from the audience: Gabe Newell. The founder of Valve Software has long been one of the PS3's most vociferous critics and had refused to work on the platform. Valve even offloaded the port of its hit compilation the Orange Box to its publisher, Electronic Arts, rather than deal with PS3 development kits.
Today, though, Newell revealed that Valve is jumping on the PS3 bandwagon with both feet. The veteran software developer revealed that Portal 2 is coming to the PS3 next year--and that it will, in Newell's terms, "be the best console version of the game." It is also in development for the PC, Valve's preferred platform, and the Xbox 360, which the company has long embraced.
Newell's reason for crowning the PS3 edition of Portal 2 was that it will be supported by Steamworks. Released in 2008, the free toolset allows developers to integrate support from its Steam content delivery service into their games. Steamworks will allow for Portal 2 auto-updates, downloadable content, and community support directly from Valve, a feature the 360 edition of the game will not have. How it will exactly work on the PlayStation Network is unclear.
Newell did not shrink from his past criticism of the PS3, joking that faux executive and TV ad character Kevin Butler (played by character actor Jerry Lambert) was introduced to him backstage as the "vice president of sharpening things." However, in a statement released after the event, Newell was effusive in his praise, saying, "Sony Computer Entertainment has proved that the PlayStation 3 is the most open platform of all the current generation consoles and has worked extremely hard to make the platform the most desirable for consumers and developers."
stop saying that m$ is gonna pay valve for steamworks because valve said that they dont put it on xbox because m$wants money themself for steamworks to be put on their system.(this says that they are realy greedy) on ps3 they dont have to pay that fee
You guys will never get L4D series, nuff said. Portal you can have it is lame. This story is so not interesting since all it gives you is portal.
@bernadetteDM There are still a lot of PC games that don't have steamworks ... but you're not going to find a retailer who'll let you trade them ... Generally, PC gamers have more expendable income ... those that don't ... well, just only buy high quality games ... don't spend cash on second tier games ... that's how I manage ... Plus, steamworks is the best implementation of anti-piracy on the PC. No other company besides Blizzard can boast how seamless their protection is. If you're performance is affected by steamworks ... well, might be time to upgrade from a P4 ... the overhead is practically non-existent
Console gamers WANT steamworks? Really? On the PC, steamworks also includes the added "bonus feature" of not being permitted to trade-in or sell any games that require steamworks. If this is also the situation regarding console games that will require steamworks, then, welcome to the handcuffed world us PC gamers have had the "pleasure" of living in for years. Yes, welcome, welcome. By all means, welcome.
Whatever money M$ will throw at Valve... it will have no succes, the PS3 is just too powerful to be exceeded by the 360, and it will look a lot better than the 360.
Sweet! The console war has been over. The Wii has the kiddie meh games but sells a ton. PS3 is by far the best most powerful, most open & gives devs the freedom they want, with the most stunning games when made for the ps3 and not ported it is obvious how much better it is. The PS3 has already crushed the 360 but this is the nail in the coffin! Portal/L4D/steamworks-steam All possible and coming soon?!.. Wow
@finaleve read what i said. i do not care! the orange box was developed by valve for the 360 and outsourced to ea with the ps3 version. both are on equal ground now, hence me being glad that everyone has a chance to play a game made by valve. so... yay! on all! pc, mac, 360, and ps3. almost said wii! HAAHAAHA thats a far flung thought! HAAHA
I couldn't have said it better than . This wreaks of a payoff. And I'm not suggesting that the payoff is bad or evil--it's part of big business--but don't expect us to eat this tripe wholesale when one year you're in love with Console A and the next year you're all over Console B. Gabe Newell would have garnered less suspicion if he just came onstage and claimed that he had found Jesus and decided that cross-platform development was the Lord's work.
OK Valve,but I want Half-Life3,Counter Striker and Left4Dead3 for PS3 ^_^ P.S: this agreement between Valve and Sony was fantastic, the possibilities are endless because the PS3 games now have support from Steam servers, for example Portal2 or Counter-Strike online support with Steam Servers, PSN or PSN Plus will have more spare capacity for MW2 players or any game for the PS3 online,,,, was a masterstroke from Sony and Valve
They're probably putting more emphasis on PS3 development since they're developing Steamworks for the PS3, though I'm curious how Steam DRM will conflict with Sony's 5 download policy. Anyhow, I wonder why they chose the name Steamworks, I mean that's the name of a gay bathhouse right down the street from where I live, and when I Wikipedia searched more info on "steamworks" it was labelled as a gay bathhouse in Edinburg... might be some trademark issues to say the least.
@ andrew_ribbons I believe that the console version of Valve games appeal to people who owns those consoles and not the PCs to play them. If you have a PC that can play those games, buy it for those.
@MKirby Actually I think it was a payoff of a different sort. Microsoft keeps wanting to move Live or some variant thereof over to the PC and hasn't been very lucky in doing so. Sony, in this case, is willing to accept Steamworks on the PS3. It's both a way for Valve to push Steam even further and a bit of "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" at work here. Notice as well how he praised the platform for being "open". It's all about Steam support.
I have a 360 & all it does mainly is collect dust...LOL! I guess now with the new redesigned 360 mine will worth about nothing for a trade in. I am wondering where Mircosoft got the idea for the built in wireless idea from**cough..cough..sony...cough..cough...nintnendo***.
@rahstar2003: Your name-calling is uncalled for. I stated an opinion, clearly labeled as one (it even began with "as much as I THINK") and you turned it into me bashing Sony. I praised them for this move and even put down Microsoft yet you're still badgering me? It just goes to show that there is no fairness in the console wars. I can't win even when I respectfully disagree with you over something silly. Get some fresh air and save your insults for the people who deserve them by actually flaming a company. @mikeyvp87: I could be wrong here, but I think you're wrong. I too thought Microsoft was behind it until Red Dead Redemption announced free DLC with Achievements included. They have no beef with that, since Rockstar distributed their own game and decided to make it free. Valve gave EA the right to distribute Left 4 Dead, and they won't release the DLC without making money on it. Again, I could be wrong.
@mrzero1982pt2 ...Portal was available for PS3 actually (Orange Box), though Still Alive was a 360 exclusive as PC already had it for free (and was better on PC). Will Steam support the modding community on PS3? If so then awesome. If not...what is the point of Steam on PS3?
The PC is where these games look best though. I had the Orange Box on 360 and it ran and looked good. But then, with Episode 2, i get it on PC when it's on the Xmas sale and wow, the difference is huge and the PC version looks massively better with far higher quality textures running smoothly on my Dell gaming lappie. With the PC editions of Valve games cheaper, and the requirements absolutely paltry system-specs-wise, i cannot see any appeal to the console editions of Valve games. They are inferior and for no good reason other than the console hardware is restrictive :/
Steamworks also opens the way for Valve to begin including PC-style SDK and map editor suites with its PS3 versions, if it's something they deem important to the console segment.
So the games will be identical except stamworks on the PS3 which give it content updates? ... you know, or htey could just send updates on xbox live... but hey, gotta support his own delivery system, and forget what other companies have made. I think next Valve will require you to use a valve created TV for their casual viewing requirements.
i do not get it nor do i care. i am glad ps3 owners will get a chance to play portal 2. i am sick of exclusivity . i am a 360 owner and i know it is good and all, but i hate when folks say "HAAHA WE HAVE IT AND YOU DONT". so congrats sony and valve. now everyone can play this awesome game
It would be interesting if Valve pulled a surprise move on PS3 like another old school PC shooter house: back when Epic shipped UT3 with dedicated mouse + keyboard control options in the PS3 version. Add this to Portal 2 as an option, Valve. They're rallying behind the PS3's purportedly "most open platform" so Valve might as well take advantage of the system's open USB peripheral support. Most prefer to use high dpi PC gaming mice in first-person titles, and a quality wireless mouse is connected to my PS3 24/7 for casual coffee table browsing of the PS3 menus and front end, which fully support mouse and keyboard nav. I suppose Valve will be poked and prodded to--ahem--Move in the other direction, including optional support for Sony's motion device in Portal 2. Perhaps they can do it all.
I love PS3, 360, and PC equally, but this smacks of a payoff. Gabe's little speech sounded just like every other "This game/service could only work on PS3." paid fellatio that Sony exclusives tend to get. Newell's sudden 180 on his opinion of the PS3 is evidence of that. Sony isn't above paying for an exclusive, just like Microsoft. You're fooling yourself if you believe that games, DLC, etc become exclusives or become multi-platform without a ton of money being exchanged. Obviously Newell's speech was part of the deal. Developers don't love a particular platform until the check clears. End of story.
guys its an open shut case.... 1. Sony has never been one to fork out boat loads of money for anything...which is why they've lost a lot of exclusives to micro-suck (the king of BUY IT ALL who cares if its crap!) 2. Ps3 can support steam 360 cant....DEAL WITH IT the end 360 gamers should be last to say anything about paying for games to come to their system anyways!
Steam is good & at times it has it's up's and down's on the PC. Somedays certain areas aren't accessable due to maintenance/updates thats reasonable. Someone did bring up about Gabe hating the PS3. I don't see why he would have anything against it the system. It's actually a good gaming system(even though I don't own one & a friend does). Maybe someone bought him a PS3 and some good games for it and showed that it's not that bad after all. Agreed andrew_ribbons that the wait is killing me as well when we are going to get some news or material on the conclusion to the series. But we got some other good games now to tide us until we get something from the folks at Valve. Hey I am looking foward to Singularity coming out next week(hope that game turns out good).
Oh shut up Valve, give me the conclusion to Half Life and i will love you once again like i should already but don't, the wait is KILLING me!
Oh shut up Valve, give me the conclusion to Half Life and i will love you once again like i should already but don't, the wait is KILLING me!
@x-2tha-z: You said: "I don't get why Steamworks is needed on consoles. Consoles already have the ability to autoupdate and the PS3 has a web browser that could be used to access Steam forums." But fact is: If a dev wants to update their game, they need to send the update to sony/Microsoft to to approved (no holes in the security, nothing that will break the rules of sony/microsoft, etc) and this can take days/weeks. So if they want to make several updates in a row well... they'll sum them up after 6 months into one big update and send it. That's how it's done right now. To be able to use steam on the ps3 means that Valve will be able to update the game an infinite number of times per day, without any approuval or things to worry about. They will simply update the PS3 version EXACTLY the same way they update the PC version. The xbox 360 will have the updates once per X months. Also, if we can create maps, the PS3 will be able to share them, not the xbox 360. That's a big bonus if it's done.
I don't get why Steamworks is needed on consoles. Consoles already have the ability to autoupdate and the PS3 has a web browser that could be used to access Steam forums. Sounds to me like Sony agreed to the Steamworks thing just so Valve would start developing for the PS3. Valve areobviously hoping if people on PS3 like Steamworks, they might start using Steam on their PC
@hibinator Why, I say unto you, we are the game changers of tomorrow! We are the next generation, looking upon thou brethren with the idea for ONE community! ONE FANBASE! WE SHALL STAND UNITED!
Two score and seven years ago the internet was founded. A place of innovative ideas and center of intellectual growth for all man kind. Yet here we stand still hindered and crippled by the fetters of segregation and discrimination.I have a dream. A dream where a man of Microsoft, a man of Nintendo, and a man of Sony can sit down at the table of brotherhood. That all can come together in peace and harmony. That XBoxers and PS3-goers can frag for and against eachother. That the PC user can help a Mac user capture the flag or dominate. YES I HAVE A DREAM!
I don't care about Portal but I was suprised when he came on stage. Hopefully, Steamworks comes to 360.
LOL. I laughed when I saw him walk up stage. Not in a mean way, but in a suprised way. Maybe Sony held him hostage O_o' Anyway, I'm getting Portal 2 for PS3
@FarmFreshDX Ea has nothing to do with the DLC. Gabe said 2 years ago when Left 4 Dead came out that he would like to give the stuff for free like on PC but Microsoft wouldn't let them. Cliffy B said the same thing with Gears. Looks like Sony found away to do it without it impacting their servers.
@Gamer_4_Fun, that's best CONSOLE version of the game. Mouse and keyboard will still work better. What I don't get is - why bother? Portal is not a demanding game. Any PC not loaded with malware should be able to play it just fine. I'm not really expecting massive graphics or anything from Portal 2, either. So why not just keep it on PC?
Valve do good work, and I've been enjoying their products on PC for ages. Gabe Newell is an asshat though, pure and simple.
As much as I also can't stand the PS3's ad campaigns or arrogance, the Steam integration is something that I pray the 360 will have. 360 players of Left 4 Dead are gouged for DLC because EA controls it and it has to go through the XBox Marketplace. Auto-updating and DLC direct from Valve means those would be problems of the past.
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