'Poor quality' 3D movies hurting games - Sony Europe exec

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@Parrot_Of_Adun exactly, just give Sony time. They already announced a $500 3D TV at E3, and that's gonna shift the market drastically.

what he is saying is 'buy our TV's".... another way 'Sony' want to gouge your wallet

classic monson21502 bashing on Sony

@neosantana Well that's one of the few problems with playing PC games actually. If your sitting at a desk looking at a monitor, you're likely sitting close enough to cause minor problems (granted, over the course of like... a decade).

@Parrot_Of_Adun Who views TVs that close anyways? If you sit close enough to cause eye damage, you can't even see the screen properly!

That 2% probably represents several million which could have been used to improve game-play instead of adding eye-candy that fewer than half the community is interested in. I bet that 42% is actually a high estimate too. -_-

This is a classic chicken-and-egg problem. AAA games already cost millions of dollars and years to make. Extending that time or cost by 2% isn't really trivial, especially when the payoff in terms of sales may not even net the 2% increase that was spent.

i don't mind 3D. I don't get any pains of sort by watching 3D and you can get used to the glasses too. But since i don't have a 3D TV and probably won't for a pretty long time(like most people), who cares?

New technology always has problems for which the media latches on to to generate spin. Users/sales are then end-all decider in any technology. Will 3-d be a fad only time will tell.

People don't want 3D.. that's all it is. Don't really think it's a matter of bad movies. I'd much rather just play a normal 2D game any day of the week, can't be doing with it all. It's a shame because I know how hard companies are pushing 3D, but it's an old tech trying to be re-invented.

@neosantana Oh, I know. But all kinds of TVs, when viewed too closely, can cause a vision problem (that I can't remember the name of), which new active shutter 3D glasses tend to act against by adjusting your gaze slightly. None of it should be a problem anyway, as people shouldn't be sitting so close that it would matter.

@Parrot_Of_Adun actually, HD and 3D TVs are much safer for the eyes than the old 4:3 tube TVs, even try it, if you look closely at a tube, it hurts instantly. things have changed in the past 30 years, 3D isn't the blue and red paper glasses anymore. But people don't seem to get it.

The release of Jackass in 3D, renders Sony's argument VALID. (Don't get me wrong, I'm the biggest fan of Jackass, but it was really piontles to use 3D)

@Jamyskis To be perfectly honest, I have a Move (Well, it's my brothers') I don't play with it much, it was fun for the first 3 hours, then I was really bored. But I'm starting to notice that Sony are using this as part of a puzzle, every few months, they release new things that support each other. So, I'm giving the companies some time, just to showw us what they got. 3D on a portable is an idiotic gimmick, 3D console gaming.... I'm on the fence. Remember, Blu-Ray was considered a gimmick up to last year, now everyone wants it.

@monson21502 3D is a good technology. I have a 3D TV and I do occasionally play games that have the 3D feature. Killzone 3, Gran Turismo 5 and Wipeout HD. 3D is a good technology and when incorporated into the development from the beginning that it is great. 3D technology will develop and it is the future.

3D don't float my boat in the slightest, it was gimmicky back when I was a kid and although technically superior now it still does nothing for me. Plus, there's no way I'm sitting in my living room looking like Ray Charles, my eye sight's bad enough as it is without wearing sunglasses indoors.

3D don't float my boat in the slightest, it was gimmicky back when I was a kid and although technically superior now it still does nothing for me. Plus, there's no way I'm sitting in my living room looking like Ray Charles, my eye sight's bad enough as it is without wearing sunglasses indoors.

I hate watching 3D movies because I hate wearing annoying glasses. I like the 3DS because you don't need glasses.

That's because they're making new films just so they can make use of the 3D. They did it not only for Resident Evil, but also Saw and Pirates of the Caribbean. I still believe 3D is just a gimmick since the movie industry cant come up with any original ideas for a good movie and the ones they do come up with are poorly executed.

@parrot_of_adu The glasses dont mess your eyes up, but its the actual 3D itself, being able to see some things in the distance and things up close actually send negative energy to your brain waves, which are beyond use to seeing life and such without 3D glasses causes those headaches that everyone keeps talking about.

Personally, I had 3 HDTVs already (a 65" DLP, a 46" high-end Samsung, and a 32" Sony XBR), but am a big fan of plasmas, and had never owned one. So I killed two birds with one stone last year, and put a 50" Panasonic GT25 (a 3D TV) on layaway at my place of employ. Not only did I get a midlevel/lower high-end plasma that puts my other TVs to shame, but I have the ability to play 3D games and watch 3D Blu-Rays. I'm not a fan of most 3D movies. Mostly, in my 12 or so 3D Blu-Ray collection, I have nature docs, plus 2 3D music video EPs from the band Genki Rockets (Tetsuya Mizuguchi's band...he's the one who made Lumines, Meteos, Rez, and Child of Eden) that I imported from Japan because they are not available here. Now THOSE are my showcases for 3D. I also have 7 3D games on my PS3's HDD, and another 5 disc-based Three Dee games. Really, though, the game that made me decide to go with 3D is not even out yet...it's the Ico/SotC Collection. The Last Guardian most likely will also be in three dee, and I'm guessing that Child of Eden will also be in 3D when it finally comes out on the Pee Ess Three. Between Super Stardust, Motorstorm Apocalypse, and De Blob 2, as well as the 3D Blu-Rays, and the gorgeous image quality that comes with a good plasma, I've more than justified my purchase.

classic sony.. try to milk a fad that was over before they released it... then they like to blame others for their stupidty:P

@Killingspree303 The term "high definition" has been used whenever there was a leap in resolution for TVs for the past 70 years. They're probably just going to start calling some new thing "HD" like a decade from now, and pretend no one's ever used the phrase before.

The 3DS will be my only 3D source for a while, until things go down in price.

@SkamArtist - the benifit? The same benifit as anti-aliasing. The same benifit as HD resolution. The same benifit as using polygons instead of the old sprite graphics. The same benifit as having 32 bit color instead of 32 colors. It looks FAR better! Assuming the system is set up correctly, mountains that are miles away look like they are miles away. Something that's half way between you and the screen looks like it's half way between you and the screen, too, though that effect gets messed up if it gets cut off by the edge of the screen. Unfortunately, a lot of 3D out there is pretty weak. Instead of the mountain looking like it's miles away, it looks like it's maybe a foot inside the screen. You can tell it's further away than other things but not by much.

i like 3D it looks great i only go to the movies to see 3D now cause 2D sucks i cant wate to have an 3D tv to play games on i want a big tv though

just got Samsung 51" 3d for $749. FPS such as Killzone are hard to play because of constant eradict motion, but slower games look and feel much more natural so far. A lot of people are coming over just to watch the games which is fun. Movies are spectacular, with very good spacial distance between frames. For PS3 I'll rate movies A- and games C+, can't wait for Uncharted 3, 3d trailer is jawdropping

Errr, what the hell is he talking about? You need to blur the gun in order to keep players from focusing on it!? Only newbies that are still in awe of the whole 3D thing, and they will get over it pretty quick. Another problem in this area is advertising. The only place you can really advertise a 3D game is right before a 3D movie or on a 3D TV channel. Gamespot can't show you 3D. Magazines certainly can't show you 3D. Gametrailers could show you 3D if you had 3D Vision and if they would switch to Silverlight but that doesn't seem likely.

@Philly1UPer There's no evidence that suggests 3D glasses harm your vision. Actually, at close distance, it's been theorized they may blunt the vision harming effects of staring at a screen (given how it directs your eyes).

3D isn't quite what Sony is making it out to be, but they're right about this part. It seems like only mediocre films bother with 3D, and even then, the majority opt for post-conversion, which looks horrible.

sony 3D isnt really ready to be in games.. plus the good 3dtvs are still too pricey... but nice try though:)

@Philly1UPer Yes, but too close to the screen is like 1 foot away. Average user is between 6 and 10 feet away so the eyes are fine.

@Philly1UPer yeah you might be right not really sure though

@shadowhunter0 TV actually does destroy your vision, but that will only happen if your sitting to close to a screen for a certain amount of time.

@Philly1UPer that is what people thought the tv was going to do rot out your brain and make you blind

Really see no need to destroy my eyes to game.

@majere613 yea like tetris in 3d I heard that there was a patch to make a tetris game on the ps3 in 3d I agree stuff like that is pointless

@Sepewrath and that was a problem with hdtvs when it first came out and also I remember people calling it a gimmick has well now look at it once the cost of it come down and the tech gets better then people will stop calling it a gimmick and buy one it is only a matter of time that 3d will become standard in one form or anther

Interesting. It's an odd choice to illustrate the article with RE:Afterlife which not only did pretty well at the box office, but also featured very good 3D. I'm not that bothered about 3D myself, but it's entirely true that a bad conversion (Clash of the Titans, anyone?) is a horror to behold. As for what 3D can add to games, the simple answer is depth perception. The majority of FPS games at the moment can't feature precision jumping because you can't accurately see the distances involved, so a game like Mirror's Edge would definitely benefit from well executed 3D. It should also make perceiving moving objects in the distance easier. At the moment, however, I'd say 90% of 3D software and movies are pointless shovelware.

@Evenios yeah on movies it isn't really that great unless done very will like avatar in games that do it right they some much better in 3d. @everyone that is complaining about the headaches that goes away the more you use it hell the first 3d movie that I saw was avatar and I didn't got a headache on my 3dtv I only got a small headache until I got used to it which only took a couple of days

@shadowhunter0 Of course the price will go down eventually, but that is the current problem, the cost incurred for a family to get a 3DTV, is high and most probably just don't see it as worth it. Don't forget on top of the TV, everybody needs a pair of glasses too.

3D may be a gimmick, but so was/is motion controls. I don't see motion controls dying out, and I wouldn't be surprised if we're stuck with 3D. At least there are no 3D only games.

the problem with 3d movies is there too gimmicy the 3d is used mostly to throw crap at you which i hate. It gives 3d a cheap feel and shows it as a gimmic rather then something to immerse you really. 3d in games can be much better as instead of having crap thrown at you.. it can be use to give the entire game world a real sence of depth this can be seen even in pc games using anaglyph mode. use it on world of warcraft and it really gives you a real sence of depth. 3d movies i think overall kind of hurt the whole image of what 3d can be. not as a way to throw crap in your face so to speak but a way to make the world it takes place in "come alive".

We already have 3D in real life. I don't want it in the games I play.

3D= GIMMICK!

"By 2015, almost 40 percent of all TVs will be 3D." --Hocking. Get out of here with this crap. It's great news that 3D if finally dying in theaters. So soon we won't have to worry about theaters only showing crappy 3D with overpriced tickets and gimmick glasses anymore. I hope that effect finally kills it for games too. I can handle motion sensing over 3D crap....I think.

"He laid out some rules for games developers looking to make games in 3D, saying they needed to 'embrace and exploit the benefits of 3D'" If by exploit they mean gimmick, I'll pass. The only reason I would want to play a game in 3D is for realism, not tricked out effects.

This guy must be a "manager" because he's clueless...I can point to 100 comments on the board that make more sense that what this guy is saying.

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