@SythisTaru If the "HDD" specification is they mention is correct ( 256 GB ), then it definitely is an SSD. A hard disk drive can have the stated size of 160, 250, 320 GB etc, but not 256.
PlayStation 4 dev kits shipping to developers - Report
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Dan Chiappini, Editor of GameSpot AU
Sony is allegedly conducting briefings on the capabilities of the next PlayStation device; features and hardware were detailed.
While Sony has remained silent on the next iteration of its home console, details are beginning to emerge, with sources close to VG24/7 reporting that Sony is beginning to share its plans and specs for the PlayStation 4 with key partners.
The electronics giant is believed to be currently conducting briefing sessions with select US software developers on the capabilities of the PlayStation 4, which is being referred to only by its code name: Orbis. Some game publishers are believed to be taking delivery of an enhanced version of the console's development kit now, with version one understood to have been little more than a graphics card. The current "modified PC" update, and January's upcoming third refresh, is believed to be indicative of the final specs, before the unit is provided "next summer" (in the US), ahead of a predicted pre-E3 reveal of the device to the public.
Sources went on to disclose that the console will be powered by AMD's A10 APU, a combination CPU and GPU single chip, with dev kits featuring either 8GB or 16GB of RAM, a Blu-ray optical drive, and a 256GB hard-disk drive. Ethernet, HDMI, and Wi-Fi functionality are all believed to be making the jump from the PS3 to its successor.
Sony is also reportedly briefing developers on some of its intentions for the device, with suggestions that the user interface on the next PlayStation will be overhauled and that activating the PS button on the controller mid-game will allow users to explore any part of the system, including the PlayStation Store to buy DLC, without the need to leave the active session.
While no pricing details are known, tipsters confirmed that Sony's approach with its next console is to offer something "very affordable" that "isn't a slouch."
GameSpot contacted Sony Computer Entertainment, which declined to comment on the rumours.
An analyst report had predicted that both Sony and Microsoft will have their respective future-generation consoles on store shelves by the end of next year. Sony's PS4 is rumoured to boast the same graphics card as Microsoft's next Xbox.
For more on the PS4, check out GameSpot's rumour roundup feature.
By
Dan Chiappini, Editor of GameSpot AU
Raised by the warm glow of arcade machine monitors and TV screens, Dan's lifelong passion has always been games. PC, console, mobile, handheld, you name it, he'll play it. He also enjoys photography, long walks on the beach, and clichés.
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sounds good but it would be great if i could listen to music from my mp3 to my ps3 whilst i play online as you can on xbox
1 Like I will keep gaming on the ps3 for a while and xbox360,just like i did with PS2. Hopefully PlayStation is going to support the 3 like it did with the2,then everything is ok.
@Borrizee They have confirmed to support it through till at least 2015.
http://www.gamespot.com/news/ps3-support-to-continue-through-at-least-2015-6396885
@Borrizee I'm going to wait till both consoles have been released to see which ones our selling better, which ones mates have got, hardware issues and plays the best games then make a purchase.
@ziggyww damn right dude. Its allways looking out when the next gen "war" begins. Nintendo is started so we see whats next. I'm not the type a guy that is saying "allways Sony or Microsoft"its what they offer and at what cost. Friends not so important for me because i don't play on the net. Greets
The new PS4 and XBOX will be out at the end of 2013.
They will not be a massive change compared to the consoles of today, just a bit better graphics, blu ray player for the new xbox and for the PS4 it will have 4K TV support. They will also have a new kinect sensor with the new xbox.
anyone know any more about the new gen consoles?
@GH05T-666 I have heard the PS4 is going to have two GPU in it but if the new Xbox has a blu-ray drive in it which is what alot of people are saying are they not going to have to pay sony for them?
@ziggyww that would make sense that PS4 has 2 GPU in it, if it has 4K TV support. im unsure if it is true or not though, we'll have to wait and see.
blu ray discs will be the standard disc so yeah i guess they will have to buy them, i think its made by sony and philips.
@ziggyww @GH05T-666 It's the same thing with Apple and Samsung. Apple products use Samsung displays/screens/components.
@GH05T-666 I know Sony is part of the Blu-ray but not sure who with Philips does sound right though. If that's true doesn't that give Sony a huge advantage
Sony will be able to get their Blu-ray drives cheaper because they make them and make money from selling them to Microsoft but every game that is sold on the next Xbox will then be a Blu-ray disc which who ever the publisher is will have paid for also some of the money going to Sony again. So I think when ever you buy a PS4 and a PS4 game money is of course going to Sony but also when you buy a 720 or a 720 game.
This could be very interesting in terms of business.
I for one do not see Launching a console in 2013 as a great IDEA. There will be NOTHING NEW!!! The games will be the same just with better graphics!!!
They need to wait a few more years till AI is a LOT better!!!
Better Voice recognition
Better Voice synthesis
Huge improvement in physics
A game which can integrate FULLY multiple abilities. Grand Theft Auto with full fighting like fight night, or Cage fighting, and car physics and driving abilities like Grand Turismo, go to a park and play a full game of soccer like in PES. ....
Not limited like the game engines of today. BUT something MUCH MORE. I DO not see this happening with ANY console coming out NEXT YEAR!!!!
1 Like @Ravenlore_basic Maybe not next year, but we will certainly see more impovement over PS4's life cycle. I mean, there will be brand new game engines like the Unreal Engine 4. Also is you are to believe DICE, their Frostbite engine will be able to deliver much more on a next gen system. Just look how much PS3 have envolved over all these years.
If Sony goes by the same approach again as they did for the PS3, the PS4 will be built for the future.
@Ravenlore_basic @NexusSpawn It looks like it's going to have a lot more RAM compared to current consoles.
This means they could store a lot more different mathematical variables in the RAM to be processed by the CPU when its needed meaning better physics etc and as the PS4 looks like it could have 16X more RAM. If so i think graphics will be better and a lot better but still not what a lot of people are expecting but physics in games are set to get a lot better which is what I'm most looking forward to more then anything eles
I'm just glad they're finally upgrading these outdated consoles. It's a step forward at least.
3 Like I have 360 and PS3. I don't like how Sony started the PS3 journey by sailing into a storm of their own arrogance, however the console is now a success, is profitable, and has a good range of exclusive titles. I am confused by how people are mistaking this with the losses Sony have in their camera, TV, and other divisions. The 10 year life of the PS3 boasts are another piece of foolish bravado and hubris that Sony now seems to have left behind them. I'm looking forward to seeing more about this new console, along with the XB720, or whatever it is called this week.
@farcorners it will be a 10 year lifespan... its been out what 6 years? Then it will continue to be supported atleast another 4 hence 10 years...
@Dominicobaggio @farcorners Right now, seems like Wii U is starting to divert some of Sony's profit to itself.
@alrepairs @Dominicobaggio @torres_unix @farcorners I think the Wii U even though more powerful is offering much new to many already PS3 and 360 owners. I for one don't wish to buy a whole new console to play batman which i played a year ago but to play ACIII and Black ops 2 which i admit is looking better but still nothing on a much grander scale then for it to be slated when the PS4 and 720 come out next year.
The Wii U is a better console but I don't silly why most people would want to buy one when they have a PS3 or a 360 and all that money for what just one year until much more powerful consoles are aimed to come out. Seems like a waste of my IMO even if i admit its currently better then the 360 and PS3 as it doesn't bring that much new is more of a PS3.5 then a true upgrade.
Only when comparing to the Wii does the Wii U show a huge jump but compared to the others just not enough to warrant a purchase and knowing that its greater power will last for just ONE YEAR then its back to the worse of the looking console games and limitations...NO THANK YOU. If you want one get one but it think these reasons are why a lot of people might be staying clear and I don't think it will do aswell as the Wii did.
@Dominicobaggio @torres_unix @farcorners Following the flame bandwagon, Dominicobaggio?
Think of the Nintendo consoles before Wii, garnered to hardcore.
One console doesn't outline a companys vision. The Wii only existed to compete directly with 2 Multi product divisions. Better the idea of the Wii than end up like Sega.
Think for a second. If you solely made video games, and 2 other companies enter the fray with TV's, DVD players, and BILL GATES to back them up, how else did you expect them to survive the gaming market..even if the Wii had hardware of PS3?
If you ask me, although my Wii collected dust, their marketing tactics to gain revenue and stay alive were of brilliance.
Now, they're coming back to us (hardcore) with rage. Wii only happened to remain competitve against powerful companies.
2 Like @Dominicobaggio @torres_unix @farcorners Wii U is direct competition my friend, they updated the graphics, and are now supporting AAA titles, how is that not direct competition? Mass Effect 3 on Wii U, Assassin's Creed 3 on Wii U!? Those don't seem like titles for children.
1 Like @torres_unix @farcorners lol wii is a different market. Not directly in competition. Its for children like move and kinect. Sony dont need to worry.
2 Like Just to explain to everyone here who seems a little confused. Ps3 made money and is a very sucessful console. Quality reliable hardware. The loss you all are thinking about is Sony as a whole which includes tvs, cameras etc. They have suffered with a slowdown and people ngoing for price over quality ie microsoft and samsung. Unfortunately modern consumers dont have much of a clue as displayed very often on here lo.
@Dominicobaggio It's likely that modern consumers do have a clue, hence the reason why PC is on the rise against crippled consoles like the PS3. Sony's days as a gaming company are numbered.
@torres_unix @Dominicobaggio flamer. I disagree with @torres_unix in nearly everything i have seen you wright about on this wall and you probs disagree with mine but Sony isn't dead and PC is always on the rise at the end of every single console cycle...EVER!!! because some people just can't be patient. Its like the same as at the start of ever console life cycle there is a huge rise in people buying consoles...DUH its could the product life cycle, you should learn about it!
3 Like @torres_unix. Case proven. Check sales figures, check which format gets most support. Sony are still the premier company when it comes to games and exclusives. Everyone knows it just some dont like to admit. I used to be a pc gamer but its dead now, all games are made with the big console market in mind. No longer any great sims or fps or adventure on pc. They are all simplified games for console. The only good thing pc has left is total war. Sorry to say the masses prefer consoles just like they prefer cheaper samsung tvs over quality panasonic or sony. Its life!
1 Like @torres_unix @Dominicobaggio The PC platform succeeds in the multi platform single player games side of things, but it will not be the "best" choice of gaming until it has an online service with the quality of LIVE and the amazing exclusives the PS3 has. All platforms have their own perks, PS3, 360 and PC all have something they're better at. It's all about picking the platforms that best suit your needs which is why I buy exclusives for my PS3 and anything multi platform I but a PC copy of the game. And I am very happy with MY choice of how to approach my gaming and it's served me well all these years.
@Dominicobaggio In what world my friend!? Sony and MS over-inflate their numbers, the rising cost of development and the lack of over-all sales will bring the industry down. When you produce 10 titles and only 1 sells millions while the others tank, that doesn't sound like success to me. What you will see is much more lack of variety vs true innovation, which will pose an opportunity for the rise of PC gaming with independent developers leading the pack.
What Sony should do is make the PS 4 a tablet console. It is tablet in all shape and form but it has console guts. It's the only way they can compete with the tablet market. The PS4 tablet console has control options- touch screen, virtual control and the main controller - the famous PlayStation controller. Its got rear and front facing cams, its got tv connection, of course wi fi and all those things. But what would make it different from the ordinary tablets is that it has a cartridge slot for AAA games.
@iAmristar There is a reason you haven't got any likes!!!
Why would I want to play on a smaller screen and not use my huge TV that's in front of me?
Why would I want a smaller resolution then my TV?
Why would I want to have to worry about charging the damn thing?
Why would I want my fingers covering a lot of the screen and the part of the screen which is typically where the most important parts of the HUD are kept, leaving the bottom and left and right of the screen pointless?
Why would I want less buttons and also creating a bigger risk of pressing the wrong button because they are all laid out on a smooth flat surface and not a defined controller?
Also Tablets will never be as powerful as what a stand alone game unit will be. No matter what point in time Sony, Microsoft and Nintendo will always be able to make more powerful consoles then tablets. The current tablets out on the market are not even powerful enough as current gen let alone next gen. I would hate it if tablet's became the way main and hardcore gaming was going and I think most people would.
What if Sony just drop out of the race altogether - strap the PS4 and release nothing. Discontinue all games and focus on something that is actually profitable. Everyone can enjoy more Halo & Battlefield 3 also ports of Wii U and Kinect. Sounds like fun? Why invest in a failing business to begin with? Sony loses more then they profit from. Invested more then they gain. Since they have a love for expensive technolgy - why not be the Ferrari of tech and just dish the gaming industry altogether and make tech only for the rich who can afford it. Gaming console is something Nintendo caters to - and actually works. PC caters to those who can afford the rich experience. Sony neither off Pc GAMERs the power they want nor do they profit when they do. Sony gaming industry is it not a failing busness? It's already outdated Lets just call it quits. PC gamers can look forward to Wii U comparisons. Who needs more Grand Turismo, God of War, Uncharted, Last of US, Two Souls, Kart and AllstarsWont we all be better for it without Sony? Let it die like Dreamcast - and let us look forward to more Halo and Mario. Lets us enjoy Battlefield 3 50 with awful single player in full hd and 60fps with DX60. This is gaming! Im bored of it already. I experience the best graphics and I walk away from it with a void. I remember when Mario 64 meant something. I remember when I didnt know what jaggies was. I remember when resolution didnt matter. I remember when games was so flawed yet i enjoy them. What has graphics, tech and gaming done to the pure pleasure of enjoying a game for a game. I no longer can enjoy a game now lest it has realistic animation and visuals and yet i am still discontent. It'll never be realistic enough. It all will never be good enough. And yet the very tech has put game companies out of businesss and cost many people their jobs. A self-fish hobby and yet I still love it. Looking forward to PS4.
@rusky4ever @shadowedkiss How did it fail...A lot of people read about how Sony have made a lose this year which is only the Q2 figures after the new year sales and after christmas when people don't really buy as much because of all the money they had spent not many months ago and in the middle of summer.
They forget that's it is including the whole company and not just PS and also forgetting that they made a loss of about $200 million but brought Gaikai for $380 million so they would have made a profit, only through their choice of expanding and creating products and services and R&D have most likely with next gen they made the loss.
Also the PlayStation as a department is also now profitable so the PlayStation brand and name is not dying...far from it
The whole Sony PS is losing money just seems to be a smear campaign and a spin on things to make the news in the hope people won't look or notice the bigger picture that is at play.
7 Like PC people. Please stop bashing hardware. PC hardware will ALWAYS be better then console. But you know what? PC has to run ten million things besides your game! A console is DEDICATED. Let me say that again DEDICATED hardware. WIll always be better then a loose OS.....SO deal with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!8 gigs of ram on a console is like 32 on a PC
4 Like PC people (Well Me) isn't bashing hardware.
You said 8 gigs of ram on a console is like 32 gigs on a PC. Let me make a point clear.
JUST LIKE you don't need 32 gigs of ram on PC, you don't need 8 gigs of ram on Console LOL. It's pointless resource that could be invested in say, a more powerful GPU for the PS4? These aren't company servers, they're GAMING CONSOLES!
I don't care either way. My point is that Sony need not go the route of PS3 and make an overly beast console, or else they'll lose more money. If that happens and they fade to black (already seeing red), it'll be both the gamer's fault for demanding such pointless resources, as well as the manufacturer for listening to such idiots.
You want the company to succeed, stop demanding so much from them.
2 Like @alrepairs @Godly_Kongming PC people! LOL, RAM on consoles has always been a necesity but never a hindrance, it's mostly used to store variables since the hardware does most of the mathematical operations needed for the complex rendering. Microsoft and Sony are essentially selling you dumbed-down PCs.
@torres_unix @alrepairs @Godly_Kongming Exactly.
If you ask me, dumb down the RAM to 4 GB as people also agree that Console OS's don't use resources like Windows Vista / 7, and invest the remainder of cash toward a good separate GPU to make a powerful, yet affordable console for the next 10 years. 8 GB of RAM is utterly wasteful, useless on a console, even if PS4 had the option to boot up Windows 7 it'd still be useless LOL.
If people want power, know what kind of power is beneficial to them and yourselves.
1 Like The CPU & GPU are allegedly on the same chip which is possibly why the the RAM is so high. It's allegedly a much more powerful GPU.
@rschrake86 That makes sense, the GPU still needs a high amount of ram to maintain all of the geometry information that it needs to render.
2 Like Allow me to shed some light.
Although the A10 CPU chip has an HD GPU built in, it's abysmally weak, meaning (Just like MY gaming PC CPU at home), you need an external graphics card to handle heavy loaded graphics processing.
The A10 GPU alone is capable of current gen image rendering, but not at any playable speed, running literally at 1 frame per second (Similar to a Microsoft Powerpoint Slideshow). Check this link out which is about to support what i'm conveying.
http://www.legitreviews.com/article/2047/5/
Now look at the Grey Blue bar, labeled Graphics in those charts for a 3dmark 2011's Next Gen demo test. Now, my score at home is 7,000, Which makes the benchmark run at playable speeds, at slightly over 30 frames per second (98% of PS3 and 360 games run, to become playable). The A10 processor alone is showing a score of...less than 1,000?!?
Hopefully you get the picture. The Ram is costing them more, because they won't be able to render medium to high end graphics with that A10 processor alone, meaning they're also investing in an external GPU as well, which hasn't yet leaked to the public.
Sorry for such a long explanation, lol. Overall, 8 or 16 gigabytes of RAM is pointless....COMPLETELY pointless :(.
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