Phil Harrison warns Valve, Nvidia of hardware dangers

I wonder if they consider buying AMD since that company is on hard times right now. With the losses the company is experiencing, I doubt they have a high net value. They would be able to provide better hardware and prevent NVIDIA monopoly.

I think Nvidia has quite a bit of experience in the hardware industry. Albeit a different monster, concepts are similar, and while 3rd parties produce most of their hardware, I believe in them. Do I think they will take down Sony or M$... No, not right now, nobody will, not right now.

The nvidia shield is going to be a huge flop quote me on it. The steam box has potential

3rd party will be the hard ones to get on board with valve, linux/pc is just to easy and open to hack. People will buy the valve hardware but wont buy the games like they do currently for xbox. Despite xbox being jtag'd etc. it is quite difficult to do whereas pc/linux would be relitively easy to hack/mod i would think

And so the heavyweights send the message, "If you try to outdo us, we will outspend you".  As far as I'm concerned, get rid of all the consoles.  Computers are much faster and more adaptable.

I'm still waiting for Sega to return..... *waits*

@Rockie44 How do you nkow it's just for 360. PS3 has trophies now too.

 In other words "we don't know if Xbox is going to get lucky twice, so please don't eat into our user base"

Oh come on Martin!!  This is your second blatently misleading headine in three days!  You're own articles says it:

"I think that any new entrant, without being specific to any company or brand or product, any new entrant ..."

He's PROBABLY alluding to Valve and Nvidia but he is absolutely not warning them directly which your headline says without reservation.  The difference between the two (in my opinion) is huge.

So if I understand Phil right, I need to have people in China make all of my hardware. *Looks at checklist* Okay, check.

I certainly hope steam can prove otherwise AND stay humble... power corrupts

Don't be scared!

I'm all for the Nvidia Shield. I've always wanted to play my Steam games from my bed or in my living room. I love Steam especially because I've come across the best Indie games through it. Some Indie's I never bought because I didn't feel I could really enjoy them as much as I would if they were on a handheld. Now there's no excuse. Can't wait!

@Fooforaw @Psycold dont worry we'll try and keep up with the new tech

"They can be successful at small scale. But it's very rare for a new hardware entrant to get to scale, and I mean tens, hundreds of millions of units. There are a very small number of companies that can make that happen." Valve CAN :)

For me Nvidia poses a big problem for both Sony and Microsoft. As a leading GPU manufacturer they can really do damage to both companies. They can hog GPUs and licenses for there own consoles. At the moment as Shield is a portable system Sony is the one that should be worried because Microsoft has no portable system yet.

It's really nice to see someone looking out for others, but at the same time you sometimes have to let people learn from their mistakes. If they don't take heed and end up failing, then that's all on them.

thanks, phil. any more crazy truth-bombs you want to drop?!

Certainly is when your with microsoft....did so well on the 360 in the beginning right...?

PS3 yellow lights are at least for the most part user error from not keeping it clean and free of dust(i am serious if it yellow lights, open it up, you will be hugely surprised).

I am actually very curious about how Nvidia plans to distribute their upcoming system.  Nvidia as a company is heavily focused on R&D and licensing which leaves most manufacturing, marketing, and distribution to partners such as Asus and EVGA.  So the question is will one of their existing partners or multiple partners distribute the system?  Though Harrison's question about manufacturing is silly.  It'll probably be made by Foxconn like most consumer electronics and Nvidia products.

Interesting. So a representative from the least experienced gaming console manufacturer warns a company with more than a decade of hardware manufacturing experience and an other one yet to release a bad game or develop a bad business model. I own an Xbox 360, but facts are facts.

Valve and Nvidia have some great ideas, and both companies have massive respect from their customers, I really hope they both can pull it off. If the steam box allows you to take parts out and send them back (similar to the xi3 piston thing they invested in) for improved parts at a small cost and they market it with half life 3, I reckon it will do really well. 

In two years you should expect 8th gen consoles could gets beated by Tegra 6 . 

Like extended console life .

"warns competitors it's a "really tough business."......" Yeah so is PC software sales due to 'piracy', but that isn't a problem for Valve now, is it.  Great companies will innovate in great ways, and Valve is a great company. 

Valve should target people who are scared of pc gaming. make a base console with all the hardware parts EASILY (i am talking something like a cube with slots for various hardware parts) that can be easily slid in and out without dealing with the wires and screws etc. They will continue to sell hardware this way at the rate the people are ready to upgrade meanwhile us much more involved gaming crowd can use our custom desktops.