Next-gen Xbox design lead swapped, system due in 2013 - Report

Please, we dont need another console, Microsoft. MS = Money Suckers

On my 5th 360 and would by another cheap refurb in a heartbeat but I have no problem saying that M$ has a horrible track record with the 360 hardware, that said, M$ Live is great and well worth the cash.(had a ps3...might get another)

(joke) At first I thought the new one would just be a 360 without all the problems.(joke)

dx11 and quad core, please. Will they let a Sony product in their Xbox ? costumer replaceable HD ? The new Xbox will be a Tablet ..... ha ha ha ha

I'm interested in the next console from Microsoft and I wonder how powerful this machine will be? Will they partner with AMD or Nvidia for the graphics chip? Who will they choose to lead development for the cpu, IBM, or Intel?It seems like IBM has the strongest track record,so I'd assume they'd use them. One thing is for sure, they'll be doing a lot of research this time, and actually make sure the hardware is dependable from the start. I just really hope it is backwards compatible.

@ digi-demon yeah I know MS is Bing, but Bing sucks, and hardly anyone uses it, Microsoft has failed on that one. As far as upgrades go, I think at least being able to upgrade memory would be good enough. But as I said before.... as if....

@ digi-demon; yeah man the bwcompat was poo, sad too. hopefully they won't have much choice this time round, what with the Kinect etc I think they are planning to have that compatible with the new xbox aren't they? if not it was a grand spanking waste of time imo. I love the Kinect, didn't think I would at all but its actually really good fun and its getting a lot more use. I just hope they are smart and make it nice and seemless, unlike when they completely ditched the orignal xbox as soon as the new one came out

2013! That's just in time for the graphics' war. So will this force Nintendo to boost their polygon count on the WiiU for 2012? And if so will this then force Microsoft to come out with an even more powerful machine? (Play Jeopardy theme song here).

@valdarez Dude its pretty sad how desperate for attention you are

I'm a PC Gamer and the LGA 20 11 Socket, X79 chip set is here. How far now is the consoles going to be from the PC! I want the "Next Generation" in gaming for mul ti-core games!!!!!!!!!!!!! Console Gamers should go on strike that my opinion. Why for "updated hardware"! PC right now puts consoles to shame and thats sad, I'm not hating but for better video games consoles hardware should be about the same to PC' s hardware my opinion!

@DiscGuru101 Like Apple? Do you own a Mac? Doesn't look anything like an Apple design. Apple is known for having the best user interfaces designed. Heck, it's usually the UI that sells Mac products.

@valdarez - My biggest gripe is that the new interface seems heavily influenced by Apple. But it's hardly a deal breaker. Skipping the dashboard is over the top.

@Lazerith91 And yet they've done it before, with the very console that's currently on the market. Perfect logic.

@valdarez All consoles have problems when they release. That goes with out saying. Only a fool would think otherwise. What I was saying (like 2-3 weeks ago... way to be slow) is that they wont release a console thats worse than the 360 just to compete with nintendo. Microsoft is greedy but their not stupid... *Edit* Wait your that person who all ready complained about my post and replied. Only I ignored you on this and instead sent you a personal message. So your just trolling... Way to be mature loser...

Seeing as the 360 is only MSs SECOND entry into the console market, i'd say they have achieved success on a massive scale, lets not forget that they entered the cut-throat and ruthless market amidst already proven companies such as Nintendo, Sega and Sony all of whom already had established reputations. Yes MS undoubtedly made some mistakes with the 360 as we are all more than aware of, however they did not give up, and now they continue to push forward largely helped by the competition provided by the likes of Sony which i think is only a good thing. I look forward to seeing what both MS and Sony pull out of their hats next, and as always will make my next Platform decision based on my personal opinion. All in all, im a gamer and not a slave to a partiicular manufacturer.

@Lazerith91 You think Microsoft won't release a faulty console? Learn your history. They KNEW the XBox 360 was failing! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xbox_360_technical_problems

@DiscGuru101 Shiny. :) (Browncoat?) What's truly bad about the new Dashboard is it violates a slew of UI design guidelines that even I, as a software architect, not UI designer am aware of. How sliding pictures, and unwanted advertisements circa 1995 horrid everybody's www.homepage made it into the M$ Dashboard is just beyond me. Making the UI primarily support Kinect, which MOST of the users don't have... really Microsoft? That's smart??? Aesthetics aside, it's a bad design that doesn't live up to current design standards (heck going back a decade now) that maps poorly to how users interact with the system. What's even more unforgivable is that Microsoft created an early release program knowing there would be push back, and then completely ignored the feedback of the users and pushed the Dashboard on us. Anyhow, I'm not using it anymore and haven't spent a dime on DLC since it was released. Can't stand the Dashboard long enough to cycle through something to buy it as it takes forever to find anything now (6 items on a screen!!! ughhh). All my DLC goes to PS3 now.

@valdarez - You know, I didn't really feel much about the New Dashboard either way, until I read your comments. It definitely lost originality and clarity, but it looks shinny. My GF loves the new Live GUI.

If a model: 1) launches at $399 with full backwards compatibility and 2) I'm working -- I'll likely early adopt. Hopefully it will push more Direct X11+ games to the PC too.

If they focus on that kinect bs I'm going PS4

It'd better be a well-designed machine. And by that I mean extremely powerful, tons of RAM, and very, very reliable. Microsoft needs to bluntly accept the fact that they're going to lose money on Consoles (like they are now) to make it up in software and online microtransactions. Don't bring out a $500 console, that spells failure. And no fancy motion controlled bulls*** -- leave that to the grandmas and 5-year olds playing Kinect. Respect your base, and you will win.

@JtAgentX I agree fully. It's too early for me.

@TheTHCGamer Wii & GC have same video chip manufacturer - they share similar video modes - they however are not 100% identical - Wii however is slightly more powerful. Btw Imo both X360 & PS3 should be powerful enough to emulate ANY last gen console with 99% accuracy.

@digi-demon thats because the Wii is essentially a gamecube with wireless controls so of course backwards compatibility is going to be cheaper/easier.

@jedediahpelland >> :lol: Console history shows that HDD upgrades are the only worthwhile upgrade ever created. BTW, MS is Bing - dont reckon they would even entertain use of a 'Google' search, but whsh they could give XBL users a proper internet search function - even the stilted PSN allows this ;)

@digi-demon LOL, right??!! Does anyone here even use Bing? Now change that to Google and were in buisness. As far as next gen consoles go, I gotta say it would be great if they made them upgradeable somehow, as if.....

While I think it's good to get a new generation of consoles, I really don't know what kind of revolutionary difference they will make. PS3 doesn't need a new console but Xbox desperately needs a Blu-ray player for future games. Better textures, bigger levels, more content, 1080p cutscenes. It would have the same interface, but simply better hardware. I have no problem with that. Bring it on.

Sony needs a new UI big time for the ps3. I don't think it has ever changed.

Am I the only person that's NOT ready for next generation consoles. Hell, I barely even got the full experience of this generation. Hopefully it comes out as late as 2014, because anytime early, I will still be rocking the 360 and PS3 until I feel like upgrading. For right now, I'm more than satisfied with what I got.

@DCUltrapro Agree - Xbox 1 backwards compatibility sucked - not quite as bad as the lack of PS3's supposed PS2 back compat' mind. Wii's GC back compat' got it right imo.

How can I dump the naff Bing button?

I predict that the system will be shown at 2012 e3 and be released early 2013 so nintendo doesn't have too much of a head start with the wiiu. right around tax season.

can't wait for the new system, 360 was amazing and I won't be investing in the next system straight away as I still much love for the 360. I will only upgrade if it has full backwards compat etc and assuming I can carry my records/information/account history over to the new machine, it should be seemless if they want to keep the same customers happy going forward. The only thing that really miffed me about the 360 was the distinct lack of backwards compat. Ok they did support a number of games but it can't have been more than 50%?

"Recent rumors have placed the console launch at as early as 2012" early? Its been f******g 7 years (counting 2012)... wake da f****** up MS and replace that outdated white box we have for ages.

I love Xbox360. Its a great device. It was not, but now they have improved it a lot. Its amazing to see how much time Microsoft has put into fixing the device and bringing it to the optimum level. Though it was their fault to begin with, but now they are on the right tracks. So I hope that the next gen console wont be as faulty as this one was at the start. Since only Nintendo is coming into the market soon, MS wont be alarmed as its main competitor is Sony.

I for one like the new UI and the direction its taking with apps and such...I admire the fact that they are constantly welcoming changes to improve the overall experience whether they may be good or bad...The last update with its bright white menus were driving me a little mad but I figured they would rectify the issue over time and they did The reason I switched from SONY was mainly for that reason...I trusted that M$ would not only be a major player from the get-go but would also break new barriers with its own innovations like the kinect and the ever expanding online experience which is microsofts bread and butter as far as im concerned. I own PS3 as well and I must say there exclusive titles such as Uncharted/GOW are impressive to say the least...(I dont even think the 360 would be able to technically handle these games) But Sonys lack of interest on improvements to things such as UI/online experience and even controller design is where they lost me...not to mention there ridiculous lengthy updates, marketplace downtimes and god help anyone trying to transfer system files to a new unit..These are all problems due to lack/ fear of Investment/change and Microsoft seems to welcome new ideas whether they work or not...as a person with similar values I will remain on there side...That is until GOOGLE gets into the gaming industry...and it appears they just may!

I just want it to be controlled only by motion and fully 3d. Maybe every game will be required to be online all the time and we can pay microsoft monthly fees for every game on it and also a larger yearly fee for xbox live.

@DrKill09 you are a dumbass, and I am sure the $300 you don't spend on an x box has microsoft crying all the way to the bank as it goes to cash in the billions it has made of the x box 360

@DrKill09 seriously what is your problem? do you really have to comment on every article relating to the 360 about how much you hate it? Stop being a fanboy its immature and frustrating.

the dashboard update was/is bad. This news does not make me optimistic about the future of gaming.

I think in terms of graphics capabilities the xbox is at its limit now and the ps3 may of been more powerfull but dosnt mean diddley squat as developers would of pushed it way beyond the 360 by now and it hasnt and both consoles are on par with each other. Its all about how the developers take to using the packs that microsoft and sony give them, as stand alone games are few compaired to multi platform games these days. I dont think either will be worried to much about disk formats as the future of gaming will be purley downloadable in the most part, which could be unfortunate if you play off line. Graphics will be better on next gen but i think with the launch of the new 360 apps on the dashboard shows they want to break in to an overall entertainment system with more of these to come. gaming i think will become a whole lot more expensive in the future but will have more choice and accessablilty. the ps move and xbox kinect have been out a while and was to test the water and introduce casual gamers but we could see a more more improved versions for core gamers hopefully. I initialy thought a 2012 realease date for next xbox but cant see that now as to0 much is at stake so min 2013 giving us snip bits of info during mid 2012 onwards. Both will see how nintendo wii u gets on and take notes from them before realeasing new hardware from the two giants of gaming. And dont forget theres a world recession on and people cant afford to go out in there droves and buy a new console so until that improves you wont see any new consoles apart from nintendo who have no choice as the wii has died a death now and def needs updating.

to Sun_Quan "Well, as long as they keep backwards compatibility with the 360 (I think that's a given) we'll be fine" I think you are going to be extremely disappointed. This year I have bought 3 new games. MW3, Black-ops, Skyrim. Thanks to having to install updates to play these new games, I am now unable to play 16 of my other games. If they won't let us play the games we bought for this console, there is absolutely no chance that the next console will be backwards compatible. What really made me angry was that there was no warning that this might happen. Given a choice I would not have played the new games. Profit, and stuff the customer. They don't give a damn about you, just your money.

STOP SHOVING THE FUTURE DOWN OUR THROATS! I have all three current consoles all are fine I have a great time with them and it feels to soon

@Albaficas ... Sony pays Microsoft to put Windows in their pc's, so why wouldn't Microsoft pay Sony for Blu-ray? I think you're completely wrong and have no clue about anything you just said.

anw we all know sony yet again will have the most powerfull console so i dont care what m$ gonna do

krishnaV_ it wont have blu ray keep dreaming blu ray belong also to sony so i dont see M$ pay them for it...beside didnt M$ BASH blu ray at start and got completely wtfroflpwned with that failure HD-DVD?

If the recently released dashboard is any indication of Microsoft's direction the next Xbox is going to be one big Advertisement. You won't be able to fart without getting suggested advertisement base on your recent action.

More than when it hits the shelves, I wanna know what this beast would be capable of.. Enhanced Kinect is a no-brainier.. Improved GPUs, a massive HDD, and a Blue Ray component are some of the things I'm hoping to see. The UI is not a major concern.. were gamers after all, we adapt pretty quickly.

perfect time for a new consle

Well, as long as they keep backwards compatibility with the 360 (I think that's a given) we'll be fine, but they better go beyond standard DVDs for their discs. They need to.