Lair dev Factor 5 shuts US arm

such a shame to see a once great developer go under.

Stuff happens sometimes, companies close doors and designers lose jobs, but the important thing is that the HQ is still standing.

@ TehUndeadHorror: thats what happens when you make ****** games.

So many companies closing... :(

Sorry to hear about this.

Shame... I have such fond memories of the Rogue Squadron series. I still play them every now and then on the Cube.

Lol, excuses excuses.And non biased i might add. *rolls eyes*

I love it when people say "Lair" sucked. Boohoo for you you couldn't handle the learning curve that once over it made it an amazing gaming experience that should have scored 8s and 9s. Face it it got poor reviews because the reviewers were lazy and there has been a significant slant against PS3 games that is just barely starting to disappear. Drakes fortune was truly a 10, yet only got 7s and 8s (most saying because its lack of multiplayer and online. Uhuh because all games should be multiplayer and online right?). Heavenly Sword again should have been given a 10, again 7s and 8s (this time because it was too short, again because the length of a game has such a huge effect on gameplay, and somehow the too short story is still better then the majority of story driven games). Lair's only problem was it tried to present something new and innovative to a generation of gamers that wants to be shovel fed crap games like GTA VI (a game which got 9s and 10s despite the constant glitches the stagnant gameplay, and the drab environment. Saints Row 1and 2 may be clones of the older GTA's but it's obvious they got all the good genes). So please stop putting down an excellent studio that put out an excellent game that reviewers were simply too lazy to learn.

Can you people read teh story before posting your hackneyed R.I.P messages. factor 5 inc. is seperate from factor 5 GMBH. F5 GMBH are the ones that brought us all the games that we liked and will continue to do so for quite some time in my opinion. I do hope that F5 can get the rights to do another RS game (please correct me if they still hold the rights). It was unfortunate the way that Lair came out as it had buckets of potential.

LAIR was n is a good game a 6/10 for me :)

It saddens me when any developer goes down.

Just as I was hoping to possibly see a Rogue Squadron in some form on the Wii. Imagine the use of the control scheme to pilot an X Wing! Good bye Factor 5, May the Force be with you.

Not only that you have to actually release games you are working on to make money.

Sad that the PS3 killed the Factor 5 radio star. Lair sucked. We were so pumped for it. But it just bit. It was a great idea, but none of the features seemed finished. They just bit off more than they could chew. They would have been better off making a remake of one of their SW games for the PS3.

Oh no... This is bad fot everyone. I'm remember of the Turrican series (Sega Genesis, Super NES and the "Amiga" system). So as the Rogue Squadron series ("ah, the good old times never dies"). "God bless you guys, and thank you for everything".

R.I.P. Factor 5 :cry:

Rogue Squadron was a great series. hate to see factor 5 go...

Factor5 should always be remembered for the awesome Rogue Sqaudron games and not for Lair.

Lair wasn't great, but it was fun to look at. The best stuff Factor 5 has produced always originated from the German teams, so today's news isn't especially bad. These guys have some great games left in them, and some spectacular engines to come. All this "r.i.p." nonsense is misinformed.

Lair sucked butt, i owned it... loved the overall LOTR feel to the levels, but the actual gameplay was horrible. Even if you got used to the controls, the levels had ridiculous time limits which kept you from taking your time and having fun destroying every thing in sight. If you wanted to do an elaborate take down animation, you'd be lucky to manage one per mission. too bad they failed with Lair.

Lair could have been really good but it felt rushed. I bet most people who are bashing it never even played it.

Personally, I am very sad to see F5 go away. Lair was an absolutely fabulous game, although I never played the unpatched mess that everyone complained about. I still play Rogue Squadron now adn again, trying to get every gold medal. Hope they find gainful employment.

So much for that new Kid Icarus game.

After releasing Lair, they should've closed down a longgg time ago.

That is unfortunate, but it's the nature of the beast.

This is a sad day in the world of video games. I just hope they are remembered for more than just Lair. I know that there is a lot more that goes into it, but I don't see why Nintendo can't just pick up F5 as an official second party. That would please a lot of Wii owners like myself.

SON OF A B****!!! They were working on Kid Icarus for Wii. So I guess that means it's canceled now.

I guess Brash was a bad investment um? I have much empathy for the laid off employees. Greedy suits!

TheRealMantera: I know this is the internet, but I don't appreciate your sarcasm. I don't think you understand what mobile detailing is. I don't wash trailers, and I've never lived in a trailerpark or even been to one. I wash things like cars, limos, even airplanes. It's a legitimate business, and one that I'm glad I invested in before everything went all fubar. Now I'm my own boss, and I absolutely love it. Why try to piss on my parade?

golbez 77- an "abortion of a game"???? you say.... hmmmmmmmm..........

intrakitt- it's nice to hear that mobile trailer detailing is booming. always a good economic indicator when trailers/trailerparks etc. do well!

Damn, the Rogue Squadron games were so excellent...really don't know what happened with Lair.RIP to what was once a great dev.

like i have said before. how they run this game dev company's are freak en idiots. oh we just dev games only. well that only works when you getting money to make it otherwise you screwed. it better to be a multi media company doing cgi,game engine etc. not just make one thing

They should have developed another Rogue Squadron game instead of LAIR. What where they thinking?

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so sad................

So if they had stayed working with Nintendo they might possibly still have a job working on another Rouge Squadron? That sounds harsh, but think of the DS games we'd have bought by now.

@ darthogre While it may not be the sole reason for this outcome, it surely didn't help that they tarnished their once credible catalog with that abomination.

Government is bailing out everyone else, why not some of these developers? :) That't too bad though - RS games were really fun.

Not good, another developer gone to the wall, this is bad news for all gamers in general! Rogue squadron for the N64 was a classic, so i'm sorry to hear of this.

So they didn't develop Lair? :-) Why not put that in the title? It's the game that most gamers associate them with.

So, I guess we won't be seeing "Rouge Squadron IV". :(

The economy isn't doing anything its an abortion of a game they decided to release.

I like how Gamespot put the title as "Lair Dev".....trying to say that alone put them into bankruptcy.

I loved playing Rogue Squadron on the N64. Too bad to see these guys go :(

damn you, economic climate...

Hmmm....maybe they shouldn't have left Nintendo's side. At least their games didn't blow when they had them to report to. :|

Bummer, I dislike seeing Game Makers go under....... Good luck to them in their futures though

This economy is seriously killing off some of the better developers of our time. When will it end, sadly...someone uses their talents well.

wow the economy sux