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Kinect to reach 7.6 million in 2011 - Report

Screen Digest predicts Microsoft's motion-sensing peripheral to narrowly outpace Move's 7.3 million in first full year on sale, tempers near-term expectations for 3D TVs, game streaming on demand.

Last month, Microsoft upped its estimates for its Kinect motion-sensing camera peripheral, saying it expected the add-on to build an installed base of 5 million by the end of the year. Analyst firm Screen Digest believes Microsoft will ride that momentum in 2011, naming the Kinect one of a handful of top tech stories it expects to cast a large shadow in 2011.

Screen Digest expects Kinect to outsell Move, but not by much.

Screen Digest expects Kinect to outsell Move, but not by much.

While Sony's motion-sensing Move controller launched months earlier than Kinect, Screen Digest believes Microsoft's add-on will be able to overtake its counterpart by the end of next year. Through 2011, the firm predicted a worldwide Kinect installed base of 7.6 million, just edging out a 7.3 million Move-enabled PlayStation 3 user base.

Another of Sony's initiatives made the Screen Digest report, though probably not in the way the electronics giant would have wanted. The firm doesn't expect 3D TV sales to catch on next year, even though the sets have been introduced in essentially every major market around the globe.

The firm suggested current 3D broadcasters place too much of an emphasis on live sporting events and non-recurring programming, and that the glasses required of current 3D TVs will serve as a deterrent. As for glasses-free 3D TVs (or "auto-stereoscopic" sets), Screen Digest doesn't expect those to become mass market options for another decade.

Another trend that might not have a near-term impact on the industry is streaming games-on-demand services like OnLive and Gaikai. Such services provide a poor value proposition at the moment, the firm believes, and might not take off until they focus more on the TV and console market than PCs.

[UPDATE]: A Screen Digest analyst has contacted GameSpot to clarify the firm's forecasts. The 7.6 million Kinect and 7.3 million Move-enabled PS3 numbers represent new sales in 2011 only, and do not include either peripheral's 2010 installed base.

486 Comments

  • lizzardman666

    Posted Aug 28, 2011 5:47 am GMT

    People actually buy this crap?

  • 10679

    Posted Jan 7, 2011 12:47 pm GMT

    @andy1992uk
    "Now look at developers who do know how to program for the PS3. Look at naughty dog, santa monica, guerrilla. 360 games cannot touch the games made by these developers interms of graphics."

    You still got proof that those games can't be done on the 360. I have played killzone 2 and it ain't that great in terms of graphics.. I mean gears of war 2 is just a good and even gears of war 3 is just as good than kill zone 3 or unchartered 3. The only game that really looks good is god of war 3. i even feel modern ware 2 and COD black ops is better looking than kill zone 2. I think one of the reviewers didn't like the graphics of killzone 2 and said that it was nothing special which i happen to agree with him especially after finishing the game At the end of the day which game looks better is entirely your opinion and not fact.

    You do know that halo games is never about graphics. Its all about gameplay and multiplayer hence it never will be that great in graphics department.

  • andy1992uk

    Posted Jan 7, 2011 5:13 am GMT

    @10679
    360 is similar to a PC in hardware architecture, hence games are easier to develop for and its easier to use the raw power. The ps3s power is difficult to harness because most of its power is held CPU cells which are very difficult to program for.

    Now look at developers who do know how to program for the PS3. Look at naughty dog, santa monica, guerrilla. 360 games cannot touch the games made by these developers interms of graphics.
    To be honest, the only thing I got from that was him moaning about how hard the ps3 is to develop for. I bet you he is eating his words, since the video was made long before the ps3 sprung into life.
    On paper and inpratice the ps3 delivers better visuals.
    Do you want real life comparisons?
    http://www.lensoftruth.com/?p=25645
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eTvYPiEi4eU

    Before anybody calls me a fan boy, it is not possible because this is fact.

  • 10679

    Posted Jan 7, 2011 3:19 am GMT

    @andy1992uk
    Some have said its better and some has said it doesn't change it thing. I think its doesn't make a difference at all. I rather kinect be used for unique games rather than a patch to the old games like move is . You sound like this entity from the future who claims to know whats new next best thing LOL.

    " When people like 10679, who I can guarantee dont own a PS3 ,say that "in practice, it isn't graphically superior", dont know what they are talking abou"

    Whats your psn ID . I will add you just to prove you wrong. ActUally i got that from john carmack himself. Do you who he is? I rather get tech info from a professional and is know to create awesome tech engines for games. He would know more than you about which systems is graphically superior in practice.

    Heres the link :
    http://gamevideos.1up.com/video/id/20047

    "As a gamer, I need precision, lag free, buttons, tactile feedback and most importantly genres that I play."
    Move ain't perfect either and far from lag free. The street fighting game called fight light out ( i think thats the name) has quite bit of lag. I t doesn't respond to every punch you throw which can quite annoying. The gladiator game in sports champion has quite a bit of lag as well but not as bad as the fighting game. Tiger woods game is horrible with move . That has the most lag of the three.

    "When people like 10679 say that the move is inaccurate, when in fact it is alot more accurate than the kinect is fanboyism since it is a lie. It is a fact that the move is more accurate." Thats just my opinion and definitely won't say it as fact. You may disagree with me which is fine but your opinion is not more right than mine.

  • 10679

    Posted Jan 7, 2011 3:16 am GMT

    @andy1992uk
    "You obviously have no move but decide to make these atrocious claims about it."

    I do . Got it as birthday gift from my friends. Where i am from , i am stuck with euro version of he starter pack which means you get the wand eye toy camera and 9 demo games which is different to the US version where you get sports champion. That time those demos were teh games that you get at the launch and the only that i really liked was tumble. The rest was either average or really crap.

    "The future is 3D gaming, nintendo know it, Tv manufacturers know it and sony know it but yet microsoft still neglect to recognise it even though the xbox can do 3d (those with a hdmi anyway). Do you know why?"

    Not really as how many people in todays economy can afford a 3d tv. Yea because its illogical to go 3d when its so expensive to own a 3d TV. They most likely will go 3d when its time which means the time where 3d stuff is affordable. Look at 3ds , the price of that hand held is a price of one xbox360 cconsole. To me thats pretty expensive for something 3D. "Why was RE5 made move compatible and not kinect? Why isnt Gears 3 kinect ready, they have the time to do it?" Easy . Why ruin a good shooter experience like gears of war with motion controls when using traditional controls is alot better. With re5 they hoped that by using move , their horrible control scheme.

  • andy1992uk

    Posted Jan 6, 2011 11:39 pm GMT

    @10679
    GT5 was long delayed, I dont think they should have made it move ready and delay it further. Not to mention it is a racing sim and deserves a steering wheel set up. Why was RE5 made move compatible and not kinect? Why isnt Gears 3 kinect ready, they have the time to do it?
    You obviously have no move but decide to make these atrocious claims about it.
    The future is 3D gaming, nintendo know it, Tv manufacturers know it and sony know it but yet microsoft still neglect to recognise it even though the xbox can do 3d (those with a hdmi anyway). Do you know why? Because the xbox cant do 3d with the kinect present. The use of infra-red on kinect interferes with that of 3d TVs. the move can be used with 3d so is not out of date like the kinect.
    I wont reply to anymore comments because you are boring me, much like kinect genres.

    good day.

  • andy1992uk

    Posted Jan 6, 2011 11:30 pm GMT

    @thenephariouson

    please, I own all 3 consoles and a self made PC. I know my hardware. When people like 10679, who I can guarantee dont own a PS3 ,say that "in practice, it isn't graphically superior", dont know what they are talking about.My reply is not a case of opinion it is fact. When they quote a john carmine, who doesnt exist according to google, is fanboyism because they cannot make their own descisions.Do you have your own eyes? The proof is in the pudding, ps3 exclusives are the pudding. If you cannot see the difference you dont deserve to play games and need to buy a wii.

    When people like 10679 say that the move is inaccurate, when in fact it is alot more accurate than the kinect is fanboyism since it is a lie. It is a fact that the move is more accurate.

    Please show me where my 99.9% of comments are opinion and not fact.

    This comment thread is full of people who have purchased a kinet and must justify having one. People who play danceparty and comment how the move "cant do shooters or is inaccurate for racing". when its is a FACT that the kinect is far worse at mature genres.

    I dont like the kinect,(this is an opinion) because it is for the casual gamer, it is a system designed for my grandma.

    As a gamer, I need precision, lag free, buttons, tactile feedback and most importantly genres that I play.

    http://www.t3.com/reviews/gaming/consoles/xbox-kinect-vs-playstation-move-review

    ^this expresses my view

  • thenephariouson

    Posted Jan 6, 2011 1:11 pm GMT

    @andy1992uk,

    Please dont take this the wrong way, but why do you feel it neccessary to vent what would seem like all your hatred, distain and negativity at what i can only describe as a trully outstanding piece of gaming technology.

    Maybe you feel insecure about your current console and therefore are fostering some kind of envy (Insert I have all console & Peripherals here), whatever your reasons may be 99.9% of your previous posts are based simply on your 'Opinion' and therefore count for nothing.

    As a 'Gamer', i currently only own a 360 & Kinect, thats my 'Choice' for no other reason that they fullfill my gaming needs in addition to enjoying the experiences they provide, and im not the only one with this view.

    Ultimately, i love gaming for no other reason that its how a certain game / experience makes me feel, and not because im loyal to a partiicular manufacturer or brand.

    Appreciate what you've got instead of bashing the things you dont.

  • 10679

    Posted Jan 6, 2011 12:54 pm GMT

    @Psychokillaz
    "Who said anything about Move? I would not buy that either, although at least iit is somewhat a controller & I do not have to pretend to hold a wheel with no control of speed or dance by myself lol"

    I was commenting on your previous where complaining how you had to control games using the kinect. I was just illustrating that controlling some move games is down right pathetic and embarrassing. Take for example just dance . You have to shake that glowing sex toy quite badly and depending on the some song, you have to do it vigorously. It will be the same thing if move was used for GT5. If move was that gd for racing game, then why the creator of GT5 didn't implement it on GT5 . Its easy because it will give the same effect as pretending to hold a wheel in the kinect . Both inaccurate for racing games. At least kinect will be provide unique ways to play games where move won't be as its just an add on to the normal controller and when given the option to use a normal controller most of us will try it for a wee while before getting bored and then switch back to the traditional controls.

  • 10679

    Posted Jan 6, 2011 12:43 pm GMT

    ". Kinect has trouble recognising dark skinned users in bright light, so there is no way itll work in the dark, i find that very hard to believe."

    That was said to create media for it. I have dark skinned friends and my kinect worked perfectly fine. Even MS said that it shouldn't happened. If it doesn't recognize you , then you have to re calibrate at different lightning conditions. That way you are training it to work in those conditions. I had to that once playing in the dark and after that it worked perfectly in the dark. You obviously have no kinect hence your ridiculous post about it . Try it before criticizing it.

  • 10679

    Posted Jan 6, 2011 12:40 pm GMT

    "What are you talking about?, ps3 exclusives are head and shoulders above that of the 360s in terms of graphics."

    You got proof or it just your opinion. You must remember opinion is not fact. Have you heard john carmine interview where he said that the only advantage the ps3 has over the 360 is its blu ray storage. Apart from taht he saaid that 360 is better. I think he will know more about the ps3 graphic capabilities than you. He even said that ps3 in theory is more powerful than 360 but in practice it ain't. ". Both devices were shipped with terrible games, but the move was shipped with more games released and more mature games lined up.:

    Actually kinect game lineup was way more than the move. It shipped with 17 games. Really , so i am guessing eye pet is really for mature audience, sports champions, start party, the shoot , tumble ( the only actual gd move game), kung fu rider. There are others that i can't remember at the top of my head. As you see here non of the ps move launch titles are aimed at adults.
    I would say dance central is more aimed for mature audience, dance masters would be should be as well. The current line for it like steel battalion , project draco and forza 4 is pretty much for mature audience. But for the move , having it available for socom , killzone 3 is pointless as it will alot better to use the controller than the move . People will ultimately choose the con roller over the glowing sex toy. .

  • thenephariouson

    Posted Jan 6, 2011 10:15 am GMT

    @jhpeter,

    "Microsoft already told us that only after 18 mouths the core games will be implemented in Kinect, so this is another Microsoft´s cheap talk."

    Really??

    http://forzamotorsport.net/en-us/ForzaMotorsport4_VGA/

  • jhpeter

    Posted Jan 6, 2011 5:46 am GMT

    I have a Xbox and I doubt this. Microsoft already told us that only after 18 mouths the core games will be implemented in Kinect, so this is another Microsoft´s cheap talk.

  • andy1992uk

    Posted Jan 6, 2011 5:10 am GMT

    @10679
    In practice it performs very well. Try table tennis on the kinect then try it on the move and you will see and feel the difference.

    "In theory it may be more accurate but in practice is what we look for and so far it hasn't shown that. Like the ps3. In theory is a more powerful than the 360 but in practice it is not ."

    What are you talking about?, ps3 exclusives are head and shoulders above that of the 360s in terms of graphics. I'm not saying the ps3 has better games or has better exclusives but graphically they are unsurpassed. "So far you have just managed to show sony managed sony fanboyism for the move. Seriously have tried the kinect and the games that came out. I for one have both and find the lineup games alot better on kinect than move."

    Is there a kinect game which isnt made for the ages 3+? I don't think there is one. Both devices were shipped with terrible games, but the move was shipped with more games released and more mature games lined up.

    "The lag is on software. Look at dance central and dance masters . Both those games have no lag. You can play games in the dark. I have kinect and i have been playing with it in the dark and it works perfectly fine." I couldn't care less if dance games are lag free, i don't play those. Kinect has trouble recognising dark skinned users in bright light, so there is no way itll work in the dark, i find that very hard to believe.

  • Psychokillaz

    Posted Jan 6, 2011 3:40 am GMT

    @ 10679
    Who said anything about Move? I would not buy that either, although at least iit is somewhat a controller & I do not have to pretend to hold a wheel with no control of speed or dance by myself lol

  • 10679

    Posted Jan 6, 2011 12:57 am GMT

    @ andy1992uk
    So far you have just managed to show sony managed sony fanboyism for the move. Seriously have tried the kinect and the games that came out. I for one have both and find the lineup games alot better on kinect than move.

  • 10679

    Posted Jan 6, 2011 12:57 am GMT

    @ andy1992uk
    "They both don't seem to lag that much, but when using the kinect it was slightly slower, but then microsoft blame the software. Move can be used in the dark, who plays hardcore genres in a lit up room?"

    The lag is on software. Look at dance central and dance masters . Both those games have no lag. You can play games in the dark. I have kinect and i have been playing with it in the dark and it works perfectly fine.

    ":I doubt alot of people who already bought the 360 own one." How can you be so sure. I got one and i know alot my friends who have a 360 bought one as well.

    "Move is far more accurate. It offers 1 to 1 mapping, a three-axis linear accelerometer and a three-axis angular rate sensor as well as the ball for its location in 3d space. it records at 120 fps compared to 60fps of the kinect. "

    In theory it may be more accurate but in practice is what we look for and so far it hasn't shown that. Like the ps3. In theory is a more powerful than the 360 but in practice it is not . "Shooters will work on the move and wont work on the kinect because you cannot move the character and precision is low.: It can but it will require alot of work. Have you seen people control wow character using the kinect. Have you seen the one where the person controls a virtual reality character and makes it walk?

  • andy1992uk

    Posted Jan 6, 2011 12:08 am GMT

    @10679

    Move is far more accurate. It offers 1 to 1 mapping, a three-axis linear accelerometer and a three-axis angular rate sensor as well as the ball for its location in 3d space. it records at 120 fps compared to 60fps of the kinect. Therefore fast movements on the kinect will not be picked up as well. They both don't seem to lag that much, but when using the kinect it was slightly slower, but then microsoft blame the software. Move can be used in the dark, who plays hardcore genres in a lit up room? Move can be used with stereoscopic 3d whereas kinect cannot because the infrared technology interferes with the IF from the TV.

    Shooters will work on the move and wont work on the kinect because you cannot move the character and precision is low.

    As they said half of kinect sales were with new consoles, probably for use as a family/casual platform. I doubt alot of people who already bought the 360 own one.

  • 10679

    Posted Jan 5, 2011 10:51 pm GMT

    @Dominicobaggio
    "N as a proud ps3 fanboy i will suck mass effect 2, with exclusive comic intro, all the add ons and better graphics. N enjoy the taste, enjoy playing football in your front room lmao."

    Lol actually the ps3 owners won't get the full blown experience of mass effect because of the comic intro. Having a comic intro that allows to make important decision is not the same as having played and experience the world of mass effect one. Plus the graphics are pretty much same on both consoles . It has been done by digital foundry. The only real advantage you guys have are the DLC attached with mass effect. All in all i rather have both mass effect 1 and 2 than a comic intro and DLCs

  • 10679

    Posted Jan 5, 2011 10:17 pm GMT

    @kiraburu

    Yeah you can . According to calibration you have to train kinect in different lighting conditions . For example train it in the morning , afternoon and night. It should work after that. Thats what happened to me and after i did that it worked fine

  • 10679

    Posted Jan 5, 2011 10:15 pm GMT

    @COPMAN221
    You still don't believe that it has surpassed 5 million. here is the proof from the horses mouth .

    http://ces.gamespot.com/story/6285921/xbox-360-sells-50-million-kinect-8-million/?tag=latestheadlines;title;1

    apparently i was wrong and has sold 8 million units in 60 days. See ya and have a nice day

  • Dominicobaggio

    Posted Jan 5, 2011 12:48 pm GMT

    lol hordaak you nugget, how do you play football on a computer in your front room without a controller?

    Yeah you can jump in the air, swing your legs about, how do you tackle? Slide tackle? Pass? jink round players, trap the ball.

    You xboxers have been watching that made up advert microsoft made for the kinect and yuo believe it. I tell you, i really want the marketing gold that is nintendo and ms. The American market seems to lap it up!

    N bowling, i mean, its a pretty crap sport when you go to a bowling alley, remove the beer, friends and alleys, you have one of the dullest computer games in the history of man, cept maybe a kinect cricket game...

    N as a proud ps3 fanboy i will suck mass effect 2, with exclusive comic intro, all the add ons and better graphics. N enjoy the taste, enjoy playing football in your front room lmao.

  • hordaak

    Posted Jan 5, 2011 12:31 pm GMT

    I have to laugh when people actually think the kinnect (or the move) was made to be used with hardcore games. First of off, they both were made to open a new world in gaming. You like it you buy it. if not, don't. Hardcore games will be still made with the intent of using the standard controller. with that said, the new games to be made with both the kinnect and move will take alot of imagination to get right. the kinnect is more innovative and submersive in its approach. for example, when you play volleyball, you just naturally move around, bump the ball with both hands, and get this...JUMP when you spike. the move, well, you need two s e x toy controllers to play archery. then, you have to get the nunchuck copy to play another game. kinnect's approach may make people question the lack of a button, but when you play volleyball or soccer...do you need a button? or bowling for that matter? the motion control revolution is not meant to replace the standard controller, but rather to open a new world in gaming so all the hardcore talk is just foolish. The wii started it with their controller and it was a success. the move just copies the way the wii works (with some depth involved). the kinnect takes it farther with total body movement interaction (kicking, jumping, all limbs digitized and tracked) so therefore IMO the kinnect is the winner and the future of this genre. oh, PS3 fanboys can suck it, thanks.

  • 10679

    Posted Jan 5, 2011 11:32 am GMT

    @Psychokillaz
    In think the move is just as bad as kinect and both are still not accurate enough to enjoy it Lol what about move games ? Wave the wand to pretend to cuddle a virtual pet, pretend to draw hearts for him which then comes to life, pretend to be a gladiator, pretend to dance which looks really strange with move .. yea i know you going to say that the move can be used on the hardcore games , but games like heavy rain is pointless to use as it adds no additional experience to the game and teh game liek re5 and killzone 3, would be better to use teh controller as thats more accurate.

  • 10679

    Posted Jan 5, 2011 11:27 am GMT

    Whoever reported me should get a life and grow up. Funny thing the only post that got deleted was my opinion about the move , where i said that its a you really more skill to wave around a glowing sex toy ( andy post said that you require more skill using the move) and that its just as accurate as kinect and compared to the wii , it depends on the game.

  • Psychokillaz

    Posted Jan 5, 2011 9:10 am GMT

    Kinect is the dumbest thing in gaming! Yeah I want to dance by myself or pretend to hold a wheel. pfft. The only way anyone 18+ should even consider this is if they come out with AO Porn games.

  • thenephariouson

    Posted Jan 4, 2011 1:21 pm GMT

    @andy1992uk

    Regarding Sales, i found this article, and please dont take this post the wrong way:

    http://worthplaying.com/article/2010/11/30/editorials/78555/

  • buying1999

    Posted Jan 4, 2011 10:43 am GMT

    Man this is real innovation. Not like Sony's PS3HDWii copy.

  • 10679

    Posted Jan 4, 2011 3:42 am GMT

    "Having studied economics, shipping of products is there to meet demand. Retailers wont want a product if it does not sell, their room in their stock room is precious.
    Shipped is the most effective way of evaluating demand and therefore sales. End of."

    Also to play the safe card and better to be overshipped than undershipped , in which this case sony did that, anticipating that it will sell well, I yet to hear from sony about shipping more units of move if it was doing well. I guess either 4.1 million was just nice and way to much and fail to meet sony expectation.

  • andy1992uk

    Posted Jan 4, 2011 1:20 am GMT

    @10679

    Are you seriously trying to tell me that the kinect sales are not shipped figures? So Microsoft Contacted every single retailer and asked them how many they sold? By the time they would find out the figures would be out of date.

    Having studied economics, shipping of products is there to meet demand. Retailers wont want a product if it does not sell, their room in their stock room is precious.
    Shipped is the most effective way of evaluating demand and therefore sales. End of.

    You neglect the fact that most kinects were sold as bundles with new 360s by parents for their young children over christmas.

    Sony dominace in Japan is much, much, MUCH bigger than Microsoft dominance in the americas.
    In japan 1.4 360s sold vs 6.1 million ps3. (ps3 outsold 360 by 335%)
    In americas 29.2 360s vs 18 million ps3. (360 outsold ps3 by 62%)

    having used both, the skill level required in move is much higher. In table tennis, you can tilt the bat in all directions, step forward for close shots etc. Plus holding something in your hand makes the whole experience more realistic. Whether you like it or not the move is more accurate (when using your hands) than the kinect, the same game on both devices I am 100% sure would play more accurately on the move.

  • Rekunta

    Posted Jan 4, 2011 12:56 am GMT

    So has a patch come out that allows dark skinned players to be able to use it? Man that was funny.

  • 10679

    Posted Jan 3, 2011 10:10 pm GMT

    @theJBlounge
    "but Sony also has a stronger worldwide market, including Japan."

    In america 360 has very strong market against ps3. Its like ps3 dominance over 360 in japan. In europe its pretty close so at the end of it i would say that sony has slight worldwide market lead over 360 .

  • RO-nIn187

    Posted Jan 3, 2011 6:07 pm GMT

    @MTMind2

    of course we'll have to see what games will come out for kinect and for move... i think action adventures, puzzle games, maybe even some rpgs will work with kinect but i dont see a shooter being exact using just the cameras... lol, i even saw wow with kinect on youtube

  • thenephariouson

    Posted Jan 3, 2011 11:10 am GMT

    @theJBlounge,

    Sorry but i dont mean to come across as pedantic but 'What Dilemma' as:
    1, MS have developed a truly unique and outstanding technology, it is only natural for them to spend Millions on its marketing, as it actually works exceptionaly well, and opens up a whole new avenue of potential, for both the Gaming and non-gaming arenas.

    2, Yes, Sony does have a 'strong' worldwide market, especially in Japan, this is not only natural in the fact that Sony have been involved in the Console arena alot longer than MS and therefore already had a massive existing user base (PS1 / PS2), but are also a massive force in Japan, mainly due to the fact that the Japanese market do not embrase foreign technology as warmly as the ROW.

    The fact that MS have effectively walked into one of the most aggressive business arenas in the world which was totally dominated by Nintendo & Sony, and have established themselves as a serious contender is nothing less than remarkable.

  • daniel_droid

    Posted Jan 3, 2011 11:01 am GMT

    ok peace my people i have bought the kinect like 4 days ago and i have to say this thing is simply "awsome" it is way Way better then what i first thought at first i thought it was gonna be non responsive and laggy but i am very wrong it is very responsive and their is no delay it is worth every penny! im very happy at this product and i recomend it to all fellow xbox owners.
    But with all the fast hate from gamespots comments from snoby people saying it sucks and it is not responsive and for some reason the ps move is better even though they never tryed the kinect i wasnt gonna get it but i did any way im very happy i got it

  • theJBlounge

    Posted Jan 3, 2011 8:38 am GMT

    The dilemma is how Microsoft has spent a lot more money pushing the Kinect, but Sony also has a stronger worldwide market, including Japan.

  • thenephariouson

    Posted Jan 3, 2011 6:10 am GMT

    @NWA90s,

    Wow, your in depth informative 'Opinion' really has persuaded me to get rid of my Kinect and change my whole attitude to the point where i am now discusded with MS & Sony for developing such attrocious technology.

  • NWA90s

    Posted Jan 3, 2011 5:18 am GMT

    ps move sucks, but kinect is even worse.
    seriously...just look at it

  • AssassinJul95

    Posted Jan 3, 2011 12:59 am GMT

    I'm just glad the Kinect didn't fail. Microsoft went out on a limp by investing in new technology, and fortunately for them it didn't turn out to be, as the Internet says, an EPIC FAIL.

  • 10679

    Posted Jan 2, 2011 10:19 pm GMT

    @BirgitteSilve
    "Microsoft's numbers have *always* been shipped, just like Sony.:
    Nope they don't . When they announced 2.5 million sales of kinect in 25 days , they said that it was actual sales figures to customers.

    "Who are the people who will buy Kinect that haven't already? It was sold out briefly but there are stacks and stacks and stacks of them around now. But you can say the same move.

    Plenty as it can be used outside of gaming which has been seen by kinect hacks. It can be used in businesses and in the academic world such as universities.

  • 10679

    Posted Jan 2, 2011 10:15 pm GMT

    @godzillavskong

    Fair enough . To me it was the worst one , as it was more action oriented then stealth oriented which was seen alot more in MGS1 and 2 which to me were the best one. Plus the story in MGS4 was a bit boring. Its seems that Hideo tried to hard to do a hollywood style blockbuster action movie but didn't execute it that well. It ain't a bad game . Its not a terrible game but its not great or awesome game either. I would give it 7.5 which is good score.

  • MauroVG

    Posted Jan 2, 2011 8:05 pm GMT

    Kinect, it's just a secondary gaming add-on, its not like you will always play games on it.

  • godzillavskong

    Posted Jan 2, 2011 6:23 pm GMT

    @10679
    I agree with you on MGS4. Maybe not the worst in the series, but not worth all the hype that was surrounding it, or the rave reviews that Gamespot gave it. Review = opinion, but in my own opinion I think it was probably a solid 8.5.

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