When they add good games to Kinect and fine tune it a bit more this may be a very promising product. Hopefully they will make a fps or a game that will make the Kinect worth the price 200 dollars.
Motion-sensing add-on goes deca-platinum, sets Guinness record for fastest-selling consumer electronics device.
In January, at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, Microsoft announced that the Kinect had shipped more than 8 million units--and that Xbox 360 sales had topped 50 million.
Now, Microsoft is celebrating another milestone for its motion-sensing device. According to Xbox.com, the Kinect has now sold 10 million units worldwide since its launch. The peripheral went on sale on November 4, 2010, in North America, November 10 in Europe, and November 20 in Japan.
Microsoft did not break down sales by region or say whether or not the figure was for units sold-in (shipped) or sold-through (actually sold to customers). However, the figure was apparently good enough to qualify the Kinect for the Guinness World Record for "fastest-selling consumer electronics device." According to the beer-backed record book, the Kinect averaged 133,333 units sold per day for a total of 8 million units between November 4, 2010, and January 3, 2011--its first 60 days on the market.
Currently retailing in the US for $150, the Kinect system does not require any controller whatsoever. The system launched with 17 titles, including Dance Central, Kinect Sports, Fighters Uncaged, and Kinect Joy Ride. The system also comes with the minigame compilation Kinect Adventures and is available bundled with both the 4GB and the 250GB versions of the Xbox 360. To date, the company said some 10 million Kinect games have been sold, presumably not counting Kinect Adventures.
Just why on Earth are there no kinect games in which you use both the controller and your body (throwing grenades, meleeing, or some kind of scripted event, using special moves)? It could extend way beyond the 16 buttons+2sticks on a controller and open up new horizons in control schemes.
@MEDzZ3RO Thats just unlucky then mate. I got RROD and YLOD..but both since are gems, and the xbox tray is abit naff ill agree on that. As said I play both PS3 and Xbox, so I dont like to be biased. I have my ups and downs about them both..but for me its about the games and social side...whilst I my play my xbox more, I couldnt imagine not having a PS3 to play some epic games out there. Cant stand fanboys though (btw that wasnt a dig at you). Keep smiling
That figure only goes to show how many casual gamers are now gaming and how many people with more money than sense who would buy anything touted as the next big thing in gaming and Microsoft fanboys LOL. I have an XBox & PS3 & a good PC and dont consider myself a fanboy of either. I have move with the Killzone 3 and the sharpshooter and its ok but I wouldnt want to have to jump around the room to interface with games as i need a controller in my hands to enjoy it. Kinnect has nothing for the hardcore gamer only casuals
I'm interested in buying a Kinect, and I'm also waiting to see how Nintendo and Sony are going to respond to Kinect's success, are they going to unveal that they too are developing Kinect style devices for the PS3 and Wii. I'll give MS points for taking a gamble with Kinect given Sega tried marketing a similar device, the Activator, with the same tag line "You Are the controller" and failed miserablly, I'm hoping they make more games that take advatage of Kinect's technology
I can imagine they using the left hand for movement, will be awesome, just thinking after I see the Child of Eden preview.
I must agree with the perspective of AncientDozer. Kinect, Wii and Move (Motion Games) in general are a fad/trend not denying that there is a market for the target audience but bluntly stating that this target audience is far from the "Gamers" which play real games. These games are aimed for none gamers who want casual pick up and play easier than mainstream interactive experiences as opposed to games such as exercise, virtual pets etc. I don't know wither or not motion games are here to stay but just about every gamer I have worked with or spoken to dislikes motion games, some found them fun for a short period of time but the novelty has worn off long ago.
@DarthVeng_basic I'm not attacking you for no reason, sir. I'm not attacking you personally. I'm attacking your point which you did not express as opinion but fact, that ten million people are in fact tools who only follow trends (and that the Kinect is only a trend). That is what you said. I can go back and grab it if you want. That has been your entire argument and rather than defend that point, you accuse me of being an internet bully. And I am willing to bet you're going to say something asinine like "why don't you drop it" or "why did you take so long". Let me stop you before you do and remind you that sometimes people don't spend their entire days on websites. And remember, it is a courtesy, as you said, to reply when able. I'm extending you courtesy. You have been snippy. I don't even know why you're denying it. You told me I'm not letting go, that I need to take a chill pill when, and you accuse me of being "obsessed". That's not civil. It's called slander. Maybe you're an elaborate troll. I don't know but at this point I'll willing to say "yes" since you've refused to go back to your original point. I've been giving you the benefit of the doubt but rather than defend your argument, you've turned this into a pity party.
Well GS and IGN both reported this news wrong it's sold 10 million, not shipped thats what it says on Major Nelson.com, and the Offical site........... Plus G4, and Joystiq both reported the same thing. U guys are showing your Sony love by saying shipped instead of sold like everybody else says.
@andy1992uk Once again, you missed the whole point of my post. You really should try reading up on what was going on before you jump in and start swinging (and understanding it would not hurt either). You have no clue. You are having a one-man argument. Good luck with that.
@MEDzZ3RO I'm still on the first one and havent picked up the second one yet. I have two kids now and play time is pretty scarce but I will probably pick DA2 up or download it soon. Here is my games list that I still havent finished or really played much yet: 1. Uncharted 2 2. Killzone 2 and 3 3. GOW 2 4. GTAIV 5. Crysis 1 and the add on game 6. Halo Reach 7. Red dead redemption (and zombie pack) 8. starcraft ii 9. battlefield bad company 2 (actually this is the only game I can play online for the xbox. I pick it up, play a couple rounds, turn it off lol) and so many more. I just buy them, play for a day then they collect dust.
@hordaak I know what you mean.PCs is designed for RPGs,RTS, FPS and MMO really; they do them incredibly well. Cod 4 and Counterstrike are really addictive, more so then Cods console counterpart. On the subject of Dragon Age 2, what do you think about it?. I preferred the original if I'm honest, I'm not liking the new combat system because it seems too easy.
@MEDzZ3RO I also prefer console gaming to pc gaming but usually due to convenience. However, I still play and have played ALOT of PC games now and through the years. I play dragon age II on the PC vs the consoles ( it looks better and to me the keyboard control is better). RTS games are waaayyy better on the PC as are point and click puzzles (my wife plays). FPS are better on the PC graphics and controls wise. If I used a mouse and keyboard vs. someone using a console controller, I think I would have an advantage in precision. So it would be sad to see PC gaming go away. But I agree with you, it appear that is what is happening.
@hordaak I know consoles will. Don't get me wrong I prefer console gaming to PC gaming. PC gaming will die sadly, I reckon the next generation will do it. Why consoles don't offer full keyboard and mouse support for all games I don't know, I could see alot of PC gamers coming to consoles if one of them offered that next generation. All they need to do is split the online servers dependant on whether you're using a gamepad or mouse/keyboard and offer the choice of entering the one you choose for the sake of balancing. Computers are too much hassle for most to deal with when comes to gaming. Hence why I personally prefer the consoles. Things like Xfire and Steam do make PC gaming easier though.
@MEDzZ3RO The early 90's computers had issues regarding compatibility among video cards, expensive ram (a good gaming rig with enough ram back then was probably over at least $2500 bucks. 1 Megabyte was like 40 bucks). I guess what you are arguing about is the computer games vs. the console games starting around 2000-ish. thats when systems were cheap enough to build using a pretty decent graphic card. And then today, where the systems are really cheap and can out-perform the ps3's and 360's of the world. well....unfortunately, the PC is a multifunction device. For most people, games are an afterthought. Console games, from the beginning (like I described in the late 70's) are built to be played for games. they are relatively cheap. they play on any TV. They dont "crash" as much as PC's. The playing experience is equal for all players on a console, where on a pc, some people have faster processors, better graphics. There is no standardized communication system like xbox live or on the ps3. its just too....broken up to compete with the console. The PC vs. Console war rages on. IMO, consoles will replace most PC gaming. Apps on mobile phones will replace most PC functions. And PC's will go back to being used for spreadsheets, word processing, creative use (movie making, music making), business uses, and software creation.
@hordaak I couldn't agree more, PCs are dependant on the consoles even where hardware is concerned. PCs are arguably being held back this generation by the consoles having a longer cycle (possibly until 2015). Console gaming however has learnt from PC gaming too, the FPS and RPG genre derived from PCs but consoles improved on the formula with titles like Goldeneye and Halo. PC gaming is sadly dimishing now, there's an article link (not mine) on my page that explains it in greater detail. PC gaming is quite affordable now. I'm currently researching something called a Vidock which is essentially a box you can plug into any computer (with an express card slot); and fit it with any graphics card up to a Radeon HD 8780. It will let a run of the mill PC play games to a high standard via this external graphics card. For the box it's £189 and for the top-end card it supports it's £180. It will run most games on highest settings.
@MEDzZ3RO You bring up some valid points regarding the faults of the xbox 360. It had its issues in the beginning, and I can see why you would not want to continue purchasing MS products. Regarding PC's vs. Consoles, there is a reason and history as to why consoles are winning vs. the PC's with regards to gaming. Back in the late 70's, consoles like the atari, colecovision, vectrex, and intellivision were really the only gaming you could participate in at home. Trust me the games on the Dos age PC's sucked (mostly text based adventures) although the apple II games were ok. Also, most people I knew didnt have a PC. they were REALLY expensive. Then the nintendo nes and sega mastersystem came out. This competed against the "home" computers like the c64, c amiga, and atari home computers (and the black and white macs, the first color macs). The nes and sega were WAAYYY cheaper than than those computers and the games were arguably better at the time. Then the next gen systems came out, genesis, super nintendo, NEC turbo graphix...IMO the games on those system were better than the computer games. (to be continued)
@hordaak Again, why is everyone singling out the PS3, I've mentioned Wii and PC. Is it my profile picture or what is it? In Europe, most of the features you Americans get are not present. The most attractive feature is cross game chat but it's something PC has offered for years. Do what my brother does, he plays PS3 with a 360 remote with the XCM cross battle adapter, it works a charm. Download / update times are the only downside I really see with the PS3 but they tend to be one-offs when you first get the game followed by a few 200mb updates that take 15-20mins every now and then to patch issues. I use MSN and Skype for cross game chat whilst playing games, it works quite well. Both Sony and Microsoft have made their motion peripherals not to "expand gaming" but rather to cash-in on Nintendos success. It's all for money. Has it not crossed your mind why they didn't do it last gen?, it was because the Eyetoy didn't sell well. It's only since the Wii has done so well that they've seen it as a viable business plan. Wii has outsold PS3 and 360 because it's controls are gimmicks, different. The best Wii games are not the ones focused on motion controls but games that offers superb gameplay (Mario Galaxy, Twilight Princess, Super Smash Bros, Monster Hunter,Goldeneye 007..etc..)
oh, and when I mean "expand" gaming, try the exercise "software". The fitness "game" kicks my f@t ass. To those that say "well, just go to the gym fatso!!!" (im really not that fat) look how many kids are overweight and just play a whole bunch of games. This can possibly change that. that is just one example of "expanding" gaming. kinnect- expands gaming. hardcore games- use the regular controller. so for those of you arguing about the hardcore game stuff....ITS NOT MEANT FOR THAT.
@DitchyJ You've seen me alot for 2 reasons:I have an xbox and have experienced all 4 gaming platforms and 2 because I'm quite an active member when it comes to commenting. My worst experience has come from Microsoft. Mine broke in 1 month of purchase due to a "hardware issue" so Microsoft said. It scratched 2 discs beyond use courteous of the loose 1990's disc tray it used. The replacement lasted longer but got RROD 6 months later. On our 3rd now, I've given up with it but my 8 year old sister uses it for Kinect. That's where I think Microsoft are thick, if the 360 moves with a disc in it it scratches it beyond use yet they promote people jumping around near it with Kinect. I payed £40 for the online, the online that doesn't offer the features like it says it does (because I'm not American) and I couldn't play Halo or Gears Of War online because it kicks us out even with the correct ports open. On Wii, PS3 and PC I've not had any such trouble with online games. That's why "I care". I don't want people to make the same mistake I did.
@MEDzZ3RO I know why people would buy a xbox 360...because Halo and Gears of war. there you go. plus the games play better on the xbox than they do on the ps3. the online is waaayyyy better. I could also list reasons to buy the ps3. its also kick @ss. I have both. I play most multiplayer and multiplatform games on the xbox and some exclusives on the ps3. when it comes to multiplayer games, I feel NOTHING comes close to the polish of Halo 3 and gears of war. killzone 3 feels "floaty" when it comes to the multiplayer parts and just doesnt come close. This is my "opinion" just as you stated yours. I like the single player portion of killzone 3. I like the xbox controller alot better than the ps3 as well. the ps3 controller doesnt feel as precise, especially the trigger buttons. you can talk all you want about the online being free with the ps3, but I tried to play MGS online and had to register this and that and it took forever, and when I had to upgrade a game, it took like an hour, and downloading games was a mess. its just not as integrated, cant party chat during games with my boys. just isnt the same. anyhoo, these are reasons people (in america) buy waaayyyyy more xbox 360's than ps3's (IMO)
@Death_Blade_182 "...I just can't understand how a GIMMICK like this can get so popular and take so much money from its naive audience who think it's "innovative" just because it detects your movements... yeah, big deal." The gameplay consists of free movement and its fun. The wii was also fun to play with and both were extremely innovative. In kinnect sports you kick, jump and move around. Its a blast. It "expanded" gaming to moving your body just as the wii expanded gaming by moving your arms. If gaming to you is just the basic controller and wiggling your fingers, then this definately takes gaming in a whole new direction and expands what is possible. You may not like it and cry about it success, but hey, to each their own.
@MEDzZ3RO Not being funny mate, but I have seen you on a couple of Xbox related posts now and you reak of fanboyism. Going around telling people "no point having an xbox if there is a PS3 and PC which are better etc" is just proper face palming material. I have a PS3, Xbox and a decent Laptop..and I can tell you a real gamer doesnt care...I get to play any game that I want on any of those platforms...why? Well because I enjoy gaming, and jelousy doesnt make me jump on a huge building banging my chest waving a huge PS3 flag. Im not saying I hate you or think your a mong, but as I said, you have fan boy opinions that are wrong and no matter how many forums or messages you post on, it will not stop people buying xbox's instead of PS3's....millions of people cant be wrong. Play your PS3 and computers, and stop trying to use anti xbox statistics and plagerism to try and persuade not to get an xbox...play an xbox, because Fan boys = Jelousy/envy Keep Smiling
@sleepnsurf , You noob, anybody who plays on a PC knows where the real action. I was playing on a PC while you were still a sperm. All console games were developed on a PC. You continue playing Bad company 2 at 30fps at 720p on sub par graphics, low res textures and jagged edges. While I will play at 80fps, 1080p and superb graphics. Yeah you just stick to 360, which is actually a old fashioned 2005 pc, enjoy. @raptures330 So what if 360 cost less? Its like saying, my ford is cheaper than a ferrari, does it make it faster?...please use some logic.
@blkgsr I agree with that statement, except for that fact that I will now be on my 3rd XBOX 360 within 8 months. My new X360S lasted about 1/6 the life of my June 2006 model. Microsoft's been making this hardware for almost six years; if they haven't gotten it right by now, they never will.
Purported Microsoft sales figures for Kinect are meaningless. I err on the side that the 10 million units are shipped numbers, not sell-through. If'n the sell-through numbers are accurate, we, as consumers, will see that through 3rd party support of AAA games. No peripheral has ever been successful (I could be wrong here). There is no reason to invest in Kinect. If'n the technology is sound, Microsoft will include it in the Next Generation Xbox.
I have all 3 systems and a gaming PC and I have to say I play my xbox more than the rest of them combined. I like my PS3 for playing movies but damn do they need to update the interface on it, its not been changed since the day I turned it on plus all those damn updates and it takes way to long to download stuff on the PS3, dont get me wrong I love uncharted infamous and others but most of the Multi-console games run better on the 360
with the way sony's been acting towards its consumers i can only look forward to the release of the next xbox, rumour has it microsoft is hiring people to design hardware ... this could probably mean just that
So does this mean Microsoft succeded where Atari's Mindlink, Nintendo's Power Glove and Sega's Activator controllers failed in terms of creating a controller that you don't have to hold Also does the fact Kinect sold well mean that Sony and Nintendo are going to up the playing field by making Kinect esq controllers for the PS3 and Wii
@frankblack789 lol I only mentioned two games there are more that are Move Compatible and really plenthora was just a metaphor but there's still a whole lot more Move Compatible games that are actually good then there are on Kinect.
congrats microsoft, lets hope this wont mean that their main focus will be casual games and forget about AAA xbox exclusives....
@AncientDozer : All your doing is attacking me for no reason sir and putting words in my mouth over and over again. That's all. I do not have to explain myself nor do I feel any need to. I posted an opinion, and that is where it ends. I said I don't care what you think about my opinion, that's all. However your obsession with me and what I say is curious and completely unwarranted. I NEVER said anything uncivil towards you and I certainly have not been snippy at all. You seem to have something caught in your craw against me for no reason. Nothing you say effect's my opinion, nor will it change it. I am not here for a pointless debate, nor do I care to engage in one because they are frankly pointless. So, what exactly is the point in your continuing? None. What will it all prove? Nothing. Your the one getting all the thumbs down now and making yourself look ridiculous, it certainly is not me doing it. Find another victim in your games, because I am not participating. Good luck. END of line. I will reply no more.
And I'm curious why you all still think that Kinect is a controller replacement? It isn't marketed that way, it isn't intended that way. Regular games will still be played with a controller and Kinect games are played with Kinect. its really that simple.
You kids are so funny. You throw the term "Hardcore Gamer" around like you know what it means. In your written opinions, a "Hardcore Gamer" is one that only plays FPS or the occasional 3rd person game from RockStar. I would argue that a "Hardcore Gamer" is someone that plays all game genres. That includes Wii, Kinect and even Facebook games. I play anything and everything that is fun. I'll even try crap just to make sure it really is crap. I am a "Hardcore Gamer", you kids are FPS Gamers and thats cool, but don't keep trying to steal Hardcore, it doesn't fit. Now I see some people talking about how the Wii had all these Kinect games 5 years ago. Thats all well and good, but the Wii doesn't hold a candle to Kinect. It is a totally different experience to play a game with no controller. Its fine if you aren't into the motion control games. But you shouldn't pretend like you give it a fair shot or even that you care. Kinect has opened up the Xbox market to young and old people alike and that is why it is selling the way it is. Its workout software is amazing as I have Fitness Evolved and it kicks my rear. The social aspects of it are great for WebChats. And its way too cool being able to control movie playback with voice commands or using your hands. Games aren't really my favorite on kinect except Sports is a party must have and Adventures is just fun from time to time. But they will all make you sweat LOL.
Even with the 'hands free' sell point you can get a Wii and games for price of Kinect. Half if not all the people who bought Kinect will be back playing in the traditional fashion by the end of the vweek anyway. YES its a great socail tool but lests just say I'm glad my mate bought it and not me. It meant I could try it properly and realize that with all the god-looking 'traditional' games like Gears 3 and L.A Noire I would survive without this toy.
@raptures330 Last month: http://stingygamer.com/deals/2011/02/hmvs-160gb-ps3-price-drop-is-mouth-watering/ This month they've dropped further,like I said at £160.
@UserName521 What does it matter to me?, Kinect supports 22 games currently and if you want to spend £100 on a device that offers games the Wii did 5 years ago with a different peripheral, be my guest. You do realise my 8 year old sister has Kinect?, if I was a bonified fanboy I wouldn't of suggested it to her would I? Having an opinion which doesn't match yours does not make me a fanboy.
@raptures330 In most of the stores you can get a slim for under £195,my local GAME are selling at that price, HMV in my local area is selling them at £160; for whatever reason the 120gigs are more expensive then the 160gigs. I have no idea where you're looking but you're getting ripped off, try the highstreet?. Even at your raised prices the difference is still no more then a years worth of Xbox live, 2 years down the line and you've paid more. I don't see why an adult would buy a 360 over a PS3 or gaming PC now, PS3 has more exclusives to get excited about NOW (360 had all the exclusives at the start of this gen) and the PC offers most of 360s best with the only major exceptions being Gears Of War and Halo (which now Bungie has gone will go down the pan). Bungie was the driving force behind Halos success, they're superb developers. Look how cheaply you could make a custom entry level gaming rig capable of beating consoles performance: AMD Phenom II X4 955 - $ 140 ASUS M4A785-M Motherboard - $ 75 2 GB Ram - $ 25 HDD 500 GB - $ 40 500 watt psu - $ 40 XFX HD 5850 - $ 170 Casing - $ 50 K/b , Mouse - $ 30 TOTAL - $ 570 = £ 353 With a PC you don't just have all the current PC games either you have all past PC titles and all the console emulator titles; the catalogue is massive. Not to mention the games are cheaperand the online service is better.
@AncientDozer : I reply out of courtesy. Two days later and your still bantering on when the issues is long dead. You really have no idea what my reasoning is and are only making assumptions about one sentence I said as if they are fact. How exactly can you know "how things work" towards someone you do not even know? YOU are generalizing. I've been civil as well and said nothing wrong to you. Not a single thing. I don't know what your deal is but its not worth all your obvious animosity. The only person needing to win and have the last word is you. Everyone has different opinions, it is no excuse to tear them a new hole as if you are somehow superior. Who exactly appointed you this task? You simply want to harass someone to make yourself feel or look better. People doing thumbs up and down matters not. Now, move on. It's really enough already.
@andy1992uk I was merely pointing out that he compared in price the 160GB PS3 to the 4GB Xbox. They do not cost the same or even near. I was proving that. You've suddenly invented a whole post of mine where I say a lot of things that you are debating with me in your post. Nothing you say has the slightest to do with what I said. @MEDzZero Amazon.co.uk: PS3 160GB £229.99 (Cheaper than HMV!) 360S 250GB £189.99 -- Quoted: MEDzZ3RO: A new PS3 160gig slim costs Â£160 in HMV. A4 gb 360 S costs Â£140. I own all 3 systems , the prices wouldn't really effect me now would it? --- If you do have somewhere that they sell 160GB Slims for £160($256) then that is not the norm, and if I were you, I would buy a few and resell them. The matter was not how it affects you but what the price actually was to make the comparison you made viable. -done- I will not respond further. I have made my point.
@UserName521 Indeed. As I was trying to tell Veng, people are accepting and appreciating the Kinect. We know that at least 10 million have been shipped and it's a safe bet that at least 7 million have been sold. So I'd put it in the 7-10 range which is respectable. If it gets to 12 million, it will surpass the number of WoW users, which is kind of interesting.
@DarthVeng_basic See, Veng, that's another cliche. "Not caring". I don't need to know you, I just need to know how things work and I'll have a better idea about the person. First, you assume no one cares and yet I've received a number of thumbs up. Clearly someone agreed with me. You, however, received a number of thumbs down and the funny part is I didn't even contribute. Secondly, for someone who doesn't "care", you've been diligent in responding to my comments. That takes some amount of "care". I don't know, maybe you want to have the last word and feel special. And yes, of course it's your opinion. That doesn't mean it's somehow immune to criticism. You have your opinion, and I have mine which concludes that yours is a baseless claim and an unfair generalization based on your ridiculous bias. I've been nothing but civil. You, on the other hand, have been getting very snippy because I shot your thoughts down and you haven't anything to come back with. If you don't want to risk "discussion" or "debate", don't post. The moment you put up a comment, your words are fair game and you either back them up or back off.
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