It would be nice if they explored rap and hiphop music the next game. If there are no instruments involved, it could be possible and the most logic next step.
Next game from Rock Band developer to trade in toy instruments for procedurally generated gameplay.
MTV Games didn't pay $175 million for Harmonix Music Systems just for Rock Band. The studio also has at least one other project in development, as revealed by the programming guide for the 2008 Game Developers Conference.
Harmonix senior designer Chris Foster will be delivering a 60-minute lecture at the conference titled "Your Music is the Game: Designing the OTHER Project at Harmonix." (Emphasis in the original.) The session description explains that Harmonix has a history of creating "beatmatch" games in which users tap buttons or strum guitar controllers to match onscreen beats, but the studio's next project would be a bit different.
"Beats would not be authored by tech-savvy musicians," the description said of the next project, "but would instead be algorithmically generated, and the game would lack the dedicated peripherals that were critical to the success of the Guitar Hero series."
The purpose of the lecture is to share how the developers had to change or scrap parts of their established gameplay design in order to meet the needs of the new project. "Special attention is devoted to: the development of procedural gameplay algorithms; unique input mechanics; and triaging unexpected changes in scope and schedule."
Foster's bio on the site says that he's been handling the port of Rock Band to the PlayStation 2, and "on [TITLE DELETED], Chris has split his time between design and programming to bring Harmonix's patented music gaming to a new and uniquely cool platform." Over the course of 15 years in the industry, Foster has worked on massively multiplayer games such as Lord of the Rings Online: Shadows of Angmar and Asheron's Call, as well as the Lord of the Realms and Caesar strategy series.
The exact date and time of Foster's presentation haven't been finalized, but the 2008 GDC is scheduled for February 18-22 in San Francisco.
berlindex has a very good point, and I think that he is partially right. However, I think that because they are not selling the songs, it's not their problem to make sure they have the rights to it. So if they sell a game that can make any song playable which they hinted was what was going on last year at E3 or TGS or PAX, I don't remember which one it was where they were talking about this, because they were all so close to each other last year, but that's what it appears to be to me. Like I said though there should be no problem with music rights, except for the songs that they include in the game...if they include any music. This is ingenious if you really think about it because it gives the gamer the ability to have whatever songs they like without them having to do all the programming, music recording, and all of the other production steps that they normally have to go through. Also they don't have to go out and get the rights and permission to use any songs, because they aren't providing the music. The user provides the music and since the user is not using the music for something profitable they have the right to use it for whatever use they like(as far as I know). Also I looked at the GDC site, and to me it looks like the preliminary name of this project is Phase...that's the way I read it anyways.
So while Activision churns out biannual Guitar Hero rehashes, Harmonix continues to develop new, interesting games.
Don't get ahead of yourselves people you must think first! Do you think they can make a game where ou can put "your" music? Have you heard of a little dumba** thing called copyrights? They know you would be putting other bands songs in the game (that's not even arguable because you all know you thought of playing the unforgiven or master of puppets in it...=P). So even tough choosing the music you would put in the game instead of having to play trough songs like "Hit Me With Your Best Shot" to get to bands that I in fact like (The Who, AFI, etc...) is really really interesting I personally don't think that it is viable or possible *hopping to be dead wrong and that someone shoots me in the face for saying this* :P This is nothing but my opinion but, before getting your hopes high, think that I may in fact be right... P.S: If this is in fact possible and true I'm creating PUNK BAND! Oh well I can also dream...xD
is it possiable to just get the the Dics cuz i heard that the guitar fom Guitar Hero 3 is compatiable with Rock Band
My theory: They will design an algorithm to pull data from CDs so that you can play a beat game with any CD you insert into the machine. Imagine it, a track list of millions of songs.
Anything that is remotely close to Freq/amp formula and without Sony as publisher makes me very, very happy. Harmonix ftw!
Alright... Now we need to get Harmonix to talk with Codemasts and MTV to produce a new MTV Music Generator. The first 2 iterations of that series were awsome. Then something bad happened with the 3rd and it disappeared off the radar. I believe Harmonix would be the best candidate to bring this awsome series back on the next generation platforms. So much more could be done with the amount of space available on a Blu-ray disc. I really hope that someone hears the cries of Music Generator fans and gets us out a next-gen sequel that revitalizes the IP.
I remember hearing about this, supposedly music from MP3s (Like ipods Zunes, etc) will be connectible?... if that is how it works, it will be amazing! Can't wait to hear more about it.
the algorithm makes it sound like you can put in your own songs. If you could do that AND use the old guitar peripherals this would definitely be a must own.
So its a cross between Frequency/Amplitude and Vib-Ribbon...interesting. I'm looking forward to this since it sounds like they're returning back to the gameplay from Freq/Amp, and if its algorithmically generated that means an infinite songlist/your own songs.
Sick. Harmonix, to me, is one of those developers with a "halo" around them - they can do no wrong. (At the very least, not make a bad game.) Can't wait to see what this turns out to be.
[TITLE DELETED] ? I saw on another site, a rumored patent but I'll probably get modded if I post the name of the rumored game here.
well, this should be interesting. Own music would be sweet but doing it would take a lot of coding and writing. Good idea though.
Sounds like you'll get to use your own music...if this is going to be music related. If it's not music related it should be pretty sweet anyways because procedurally generated stuff is kick ass...more companies should get in on it.
Umm...they make bad music games....who cares? Why not try and do something, um......DIFFERENT!!! Not everyone likes Rock N Roll
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