Future Zelda titles sticking with Skyward Sword slashing

Welp, A die hard fan of Zelda dies today.

Motion control for Zelda is a bad idea. One of the comments below said it best that the technology needs to be 100%, you can't have a half-made control system for something like Zelda. I haven't finished SS because the controls were too frustrating.

The only way I can see the motion control working is if the Wiimote and other motion-paraphernalia had wireless firmware updates from the Wii that increased the accuracy of the controls with each update 

NO MORE MOTION CONTROLS!!!!!!!!!!!! wasnt a fan of it when it first came out and i am not a fan of it now.i prefer the traditional control scheme.nothing beats using buttons and a d-pad.

If they're going to insist on continuing with the motion controls for Zelda titles then Nintendo needs to do an extensive poll of its fanbase to a) see how many truly want to continue down this path and b) figure out how exactly to improve the combat because it was anything but impressive.  While the Motion+ controller picks up movement and orientation to a certain degree it sucks at utilizing that same orientation and depth.  For instance, you might be up against an enemy that blocks with two swords held vertically in each hand, leaving you with a vertical slash opening down the middle.  However, if the controller isn't in the position to attack from that direction or angle and you happen to move your hand too swiftly while preparing to swing veritcally, it'll take that preparatory movement as an attempted swing and have you ricochet off the enemy's defense leaving you very open.  The Wii doesn't recognize that I'm holding the controller further away from the screen as if drawn in towards the body or that it's in a vertical position in my hand and thus not pointed for a thrusting or slashing attack, but it does register the movement.  It would take something like the Kinect or Move technology to pick up such important details and my opinion on the matter is if you can't do that kind of motion control gameplay 100% right then don't do it because half-assed controls on games like that can ruin the experience fast.

Also, please please please add some variety to the combat.  I felt like for the vast majority of the fights in Skyward Sword I was just shield bashing (close to the point of dependency) and inhumanly fast slashes.  Put some empahsis back into Link's agility and evasion along with enemy weakspots.  Last and probably least, do something about Link's animation while his sword is out.  He looked like a child terrified of the dark with a lit candle in his hand trying to chase away the shadows in Skyward Sword.

If i have to use the touch screen on the wii U tablet for combat  I wont be happy.

DAMMIT! I think the motion controls ruined Zelda as a game. I played TP on the gamecube cuz i couldn't stand the thought of the motion controls. But i was forced to play SS with the motion controls and it ruined the game for me. I loved the whole game, but the controls took away the smoothness of the gameplay and added unnecessary frustration. i just wanted to play it like a normal freakin game! Like game cube TP. They should give you the option to play it with normal controls. And if you so desire to flick and swing the controller around like a retarded monkey, then you can have that option too.

ur going to use the wiimote and nunchuck and the tablet on ur forearm as a shield huh wat about that

LOVED the motion controls, but I am sympathetic to special needs gamers (muscular dist. ect) who should have their own option.

People tend to overexert themselves when playing SS. you don't need to swing it so hard! Quick, but soft flicks of the wrist work just as well. Once I had this somewhat obvious realization, its been so much easier.

Skyward sword still better than any other.

If Nintendo is really going to use this to push Wii U sales later (which is what they should do) then they have to use the gamepad otherwise people aren't going to really see it as a Wii U game even if they decide to use the graphics from the E3 display. Button controls will never get old so they really shouldn't feel obligated to use motion controls just because they used it in a previous title.

I wondering this the moment Nintendo said that they will use the Wii U controller for the next Zelda. It seems like a good idea to use the controller to display menu screens, inventory, and health so that the main screen is clear, but at the same time Skyward Sword's controls were innovative and really made serious sword fights in Zelda games a possibility (I still want to fight Darknuts with the motionplus controls). What to do? Maybe they will let players choose between the two controls but I think that would compromise the gameplay.

with the gamepad I figure they will have you slashing your finger across the screen for sword fights like that ninja fruit game...

and perhaps pulling back you finger and releasing arrows, or throwing knives or what not.... lots of swiping gonna be going on....

I´m a big Zelda fan, since I was four and my sister and me bought Ocarina of Time, and I have to say that in my opinion Skyward Sword was great, yes, it´s fun sometimes, easy, nice graphics... but there´s the problem: EASY. In Twilight Princess I had to think a lot in some temples and I was totally lost at some points of the game, but in Skyward Sword it was SO easy... I mean, the Hero mode was nothing! it took me just a few hours to finish it 100%! 

And apart from that... it´s supposed to be the ``first´´ The Legend of Zelda... come on, it didn´t explain anything... just how the Master sword was created, okay, the origin of Ganondorf, and a few more things, but i could explain the origin of the Gorons, for example, or the origins of de Dekus, or how the sacred flames for obtaining the Master sword were there, or whatever. Come on, what was that?! the explanation of that is just like ``Yeah.... magic. The End´´. I think its story could have been better, and in the name of quiet a lot of Zelda´s fans, we would like to have more explanations of the things happening in the Zelda universe, and Skyward Sword was a perfect game for that... it´s a pity.

Another thing is that you had so less objects than in other games... I think that there are just five ``attacking´´ objects (bow, sword... you know), but in Twilight Princess you have a lot, just like in Ocarina of Time, or Majora´s Mask, or Wind Waket, etc...

And, of course: the world was TINY. Okay, big temples, big levels, but look at Twilight Princess, it was AMAZING how big the world was, and how everything was connected... in Skyward Sword you have to use that pidgeon every time you want to go to another world... almost the same as in Wind Waker with the boring scenes of Link changing the direction of the wind, and the way they put the limits of the worlds is... I don´t know, very ``simple´´... just a wall or whatever... In Twilight Princess you could see mountains or forests in a quiet ``realistic´´ way, but here is a bit ``boring´´.

And, talking about the motion control... I think they really sold it very well, I mean, everyone of us was like ``Woaaaaaaah! you can move your sword in every direction and you have to open doors describing a circle with the sword!´´, but then it was like ``okay, I use it in... one temple?´´ and excepting some specific enemies, the use of the ``totally-controlled´´ sword was a bit... unnecesary. I prefer a button control system, but I admit that the Twilight Princess for Wii, was very good, and the controls were fine, I mean, you can move the sword but at the same time you could use more or less the buttons... that was right... I think that at the end you can get bored of using always the same movements for the same items and the idea of ``it´s the way to interact with the game´´ it´s completly false: you almost don´t have t move your hand a few centimeters to make any movement that is required in Skyward Sword.

So, in conclusion, I think Skyward Sword was a ``normal-good´´ game with a big potencial, but for the next game they should keep a bit more in the same line that in previous games and try to explain more things so we´d be anxious to know what new knowledge it´s going to be told in the next game and that will explain so many things of other games.

I sceptical about the utilization of the wii u gamepad in games until i got one for myself, works incredibly and was completely blown away by the interactivity it provides in games, finally nintendo gimmick that can enhance gameplay.

No thanks, Nintendo. There's nothing being done by Nintendo that couldn't be handled with a standard controller. The Zelda games are fundamentally the same, but now I have to look like a spastic while playing them.

For the record, will someone define hardcore gamer? Is that like, people who just love playing all types of games, professional gamers, certain games? Idk. And I think motion controls would be fun if done right, especially sword fights.

Video Games are unfair for blind people too.

I'm thinking about buying the wiiu at the moment, exclusevely for playing Nintendo classicis like Mario, Zelda, Metroid, etc...For me, Zelda is the most fun and important Nintendo game.

I think the new gamepad offers great possibilities...but swinging a sword with it is certainly not one of them.

I don't like motion controls in general, not because of motion control itself, but because of the implementation they usually have. For example, I think that Metroid plaid really well with motion control, while Zelda didn't.

Anyway, lets just wait and hope for the best here.

Been a Zelda fan since the day I was able to play gameboy. I stopped at Twilight princess because I hate motion controls. It's not just the wii, I dont even use my kinect.

"The linear progression of the game was great and really supported the inclusion of story with the game. We can never go back to exploration and a sense of adventure." After the 2 DS games and Skyward Sword, that's what I imagine them saying.

Sales determine if they stick with a system, not what the producer wants.  Besides, from what I have learned at a much later date, he didn't want the controllers to begin with and Skyward Sword had horrible sales, fell off the charts pretty quickly.  So, I figure that they will either drop it altogether or have a choice, since the stupid nature of the controllers is what made me never want to play it.  And by the way, I have a Wii, so I was merely a skeptic, but I like the motion controller, even if it's not for every game.  (^_^)  Some games need traditional controllers, others can't work with traditional controls.  

To appease the hardcore gaming crowd Nintendo should make motion controls optional for all games on their new console.  Eiji Aonuma please read these comments and see what the fans are saying.

there will never be another Ocarina of Time.

Stupid!!! STUDID!!! STUPID!!!!! Oh we cant go back now. Well then maybe we cant buy anymore zelda games. I hope Nintendos next console is next gen and has absolutely no wii mote type crap. I want to sit down and relax when I play games, not wave my arms around like an idiot furthermore the controls for Skyward sword where finnicky and horrible. Im going to go leave a zero or 1 star reviewfor Skyward  Sword. You would think the game designers could take a hint from the low score skyward sword recieved

Complaining about Skyward Sword having Motion Controls is like complaining about a sports car having a manual transmission or paddle shifters. if you want an automatic, don't buy a car w/ a clutch. If you want a Zelda game which uses dual analog controls, buy Twilight Princess for the Gamecube.

I was actually considering getting the WiiU until I read this article. I skipped Skyward Sword because I wasn't going to invest in a Wii motion + just for one game. I haven't powered on my Wii in almost 2 years, tried the Kinect for 5 minutes until I was ready to scream from the futility of it all, and I am ready for these stupid Kinects Wiis and every other stupid gimmick they pawn of as innovation to go away and die.

They need to get back to the glory days of Nintendo and make HARDCORE gaming consoles like the SNES and N64. Sure both console had silly peripherals and other gimmicks, but they were designed to appeal to hardcore gamers. If more motion controls and stupid crap like Miiverse are a sign of whats to come for the WiiU I guess I will pass, buy a high end PC, and wait for these games to run on an emulator with regular controls patched into them. 

Motion Controls are unfair to handicapped gamers.  My brother in-law has muscular dystrophy... and is unable to do all this wild swinging around.  Kinect is even more of a burden to him.   He is the definition of hardcore gamer since he can't really do anything else.. he games all day everyday.   It's just not fair.   Want the motion controls.. fine! but, at least give the option to use a standard controller..... 

In my opinion motion control gaming is a mistake. It's fun for some games like arcade games such as Fruit Ninja or WII sports. But for games like LoZ and what not I like to come home and sit down and relax as I play instead of waving my arms like an idiot. But that is my opinion