Forza Motorsport 5 will run in 1080p at 60fps

@CraigNinten @somatzu yeah, it's probably your monitor's maximum refresh rate. you have to buy a monitor that specifically states that it has 120 or 144hz

@IceJester45 Exactly and by having stupidly high standards all you are doing is making your own experience of gaming worse.

@Dannystaples14 East to explain: Console-only gamers have lower standards when it comes to performance. But, Dark Souls' Blight Town dropped below even those low standards.

And, plenty of console ports, including Skyrim, have performance issues about which people complain. Just Google "Skyrim PlayStation 3 framerate." 

I personally know several people whose saved games were boned on the Xbox 360 because a character didn't spawn or a conversation didn't trigger. On the PC, that's a quick fix: just go into the console commands and bring the character to you or whatever. Better visuals are just part of the perks of playing on PC.

@demonkingx5 It is because since I have been getting back into gaming since the PS4 conference all I have heard is graphics this, graphics that, PCs are better because they have awesome graphics. 

The fact that those same graphics totally rape a game into the ground and make it almost unplayable in the sense that "I would rather cut off one of my testicles than play this piece of shit any more", just gets glossed over.

I miss the time when games were for playing not just to look at, like most PC players suggest, since their only selling point of their system is that they have more power. Cheap games as well but no matter how cheap a crap game is I still won't buy it.

We need to get out of the graphics rut, the industry is digging itself into, and PC fans banging on about how shit consoles are because of their "out of date" graphics, are not helping.

@demonkingx5 @Dannystaples14 HAHAHA

@demonkingx5 @Dannystaples14 HA HA LOVE THIS RESPONSE!

@Dannystaples14 somehow my factual comment offended i assume a grown man over the internet. even though i didn't say anything negative about the plastic he seems to hold emotional feeling for.

@Dannystaples14 @CraigNinten @ManatuBeard @handsome2222tx Well, you've made up your own mind, its impossible for anyone to persuade you. Still, I will just throw away a few opinions here, you believein what you like.

First, benchmarking across these platforms is not possible, however, we all know wii is somewhat similar to original xbox in terms of performance - demonstrated by both gaming and running homebrew software. And its a fact that Xbox 360 is a few times more powerful than original xbox, we can safely assume the same happened to wii.

Second, like previouly stated, benchmarking is impossible, however, due to the fact that both next gen consoles are based on same architect, is safe to assume that hardware matters more because software is the same, and from what we know, PS4 is 50% more powerful hardware wise, therefore...

references: google

@CraigNinten @ManatuBeard @handsome2222tx "Wii, which was a few times weaker...", fucking hell. That has got to be the most untechnical and unscientific sentence I have ever read in my life.

Get me some benchmark stats up about both and we will talk about it being 50%.

But since there are no benchmark stats why don't you wait to see some games before slapping 50% more power onto it?

PS4 is right now, more powerful than the Xbox One. But saying it is 50% is delusional.

@Dannystaples14 @ManatuBeard @handsome2222tx Actually, yes. Because Nintendo had wii, which was a few times weaker than 360 and PS3, but sold more. Now you might think wii is a piece of crap that deserves no love from our gamers, but that's not the case in the eyes of MS and Sony. To put it simple: they want money, that's why they decided not to pack a i7, titan and 32G of ram into their next gen consoles, because as long as their consoles sell, the performances of these consoles actually matter little to them.

@ManatuBeard @handsome2222tx The ESRAM is there to simplify the process, its super quick so it allows developers to do complicated tasks quicker and cheaper.

Sure the GPU and memory are inferior to what the PS4 has, but the ESRAM is there to reduce the difference. I'm expecting there to be little or no difference between the xbox one and PS4 in cross platform games, its the exclusives where we will see both consoles strengths.

@handsome2222tx @ManatuBeard If you want a console for games ... no

X1 is a mess if you are a core gamer.

ESRAM is massive and takes lot of space, so the GPU has to be smaller. 

PS4 having a much more simpler design and OS ends up being better if what you want is pure gaming.

@Messenger360p All those manufacturers in Japan didn't predict very well with 3D did they?  They are not infallible.  Most consumers were raised on the concept that you buy a tv every 10 years or so.  The market has just tipped over to 50% adoption of HDTV's now.  What makes you think they're going to dump all their new purchases to get a 4K tv just to make Japanese manufacturer's more profit?