can i just clear all this up consoles pc and whatever even new consoles coming out e.g the 720 n ps4 will still behind in graphics as they will either use ati or nvida.with owning a pc u roughly have access to these sort of hardware now but you have to pay for it.the problem is e.g your gtx 600 or end of this year gtx 700 the deveolopers will not beable to utilize all of the power because they are to focused on consoles meaning more money which is at the end of day it comes to.and console ports the only benefit really is higer rez n unlocked fps.new graphic engines of course will push the boundries but i would say e.g frostbite engine 2.0,i cant see a frostbite 3.0 until end of nextgen 720 ps4 with it only coming out now.u got take in2 account the lience fees n all that,getting money recouping money back from each graphic engine made .
Gears of War studio showing off Unreal Engine 4 behind closed doors at next month's Game Developers Conference in San Francisco.
What might the future of gaming look like? Epic Games is answering that question next month at the 2012 Game Developers Conference, where it will show off its next-generation technology behind closed doors.
The company today detailed its GDC 2012 presence, noting that it will bring its next-generation technology--the Unreal Engine 4--to the show, which runs March 5-9 in San Francisco. A preview of the engine will be offered to "select" licensees, partners, and prospective clients during the show, with those parties forced to sign a nondisclosure agreement.
As for the next generation in general, speaking with GameSpot last summer, Epic Games president Mike Capps said, "It's hard to know exactly what's going to happen. We're bullish on the next generation. We're excited about it. But there's a big risk that nobody cares because they're all too busy playing [Zynga Facebook game] Empire and Allies, and they don't need a next-generation console box."
Of the three major console makers, Nintendo is the only company with a next-generation console announced and on the horizon. The Wii U is due for a worldwide release this holiday.
Epic also reiterated that studio design director Cliff Bleszinski will host the 2012 Game Developers Choice Awards. Fans who can't attend the awards show in March can watch a live stream of the event here on GameSpot (and through GameSpot's YouTube channel) the evening of March 7 at 6:30 p.m. PDT.
@ErDige well, PC games are boring, thats why i keep upgrading try to look for something new but at last i decide to get myself a new PS3 slim, now my gaming mood is back, PC gaming is not that good, PC is not for serious gamers anyway.
@amazon09 @ErDige What a load of rubbish. If anything PC gaming is for the more serious gamers, unlike console gaming where you can just pick up a pad and off you go. Not that I'm some kind of fanboy, I have a high end gaming rig and all three of the current crop of consoles. Boring? Most games now are released on all platforms so if you find pc games boring your probably bored of gaming in general and should find a new hobby.
@amazon09 I played Crysis 2 with hardcore sttings -__-.. I could not do the same with battlefield 3, so i played it in other pc. But those graphics are Good, but should already be the lowest graphics we should get by the end of this year. I want more, I don't know if you do, But i really want a lot more. we had enough of this gen already
@ErDige gtx260 on laptop is a weak card, i think ps3 or xbox360 can beat it, battlefield 3 on PC is a good looking game but console isn't far behind, what consoles are lacking for battlefield 3 is vram, battlefield demands more than 1GB vram on high setting, and i dont see my hd6950 is so much better than my PS3, thats why i said we dont need new console at all
@amazon09 Are you freaking dumb? I like nintendo, but if i get another sistem i'd get an xbox 360... I game on my laptop (i only have a gtx 260 but t's good enough)... And I want this freaking gaming generation over ASAP. I'm tired of the same graphics, the same poor physics, the same textures... The ony 2 games that i REALLY enjoyed WAS CRYSIS 2 AND BATTLEFIELD 3 (ON PC) Becaus fo few moments i felt like I was watcing a movie instead playing a 3d game because of its sunning graphics. I wwant that in every single game! So i want this whole generation over already. I'd love to see wii U's, ps4 and xbox 720 graphics now! I don't want to wait 2 more years for it!!!
@Phatjam98 LOL , get a life, you do not have any prove to justify your lies, you are the one who tried to convince yourself but you failed, sad case :)
@amazon09 All I hear is the same song on repeat. Let me know when you have something of substance to contribute. You are getting boring. You can keep repeating your silly ideas all you like but you are only convincing yourself. Actually it seems as though you are trying to convince yourself.
@Phatjam98 LOL childish, get a life, you do not know anything about PC Gaming at all, every1 knows current PC of $400+ are stronger than both xbox360 or PS3 in terms of graphics, i said so it doesnt mean my PC is just a $400+ PC, 400+$ PC can give you an athlon x4 and ati 5770 spec combined, do you know what are the things i mentioned above, i guess you don't. Get a life, you know NOTHING about current tech and price, but act like you know, and start telling lies,you will just try anything with all your jokes to win this argument , this show how pathetic you are and everything you said totally cannot be trusted, even you are NOT HAPPY with your xbox360, you will act like you are happy, typical fanboy and typical liar, you got NOTHING to justify all your statements, LOL again for saying 400$ PC at the moment only play HL2 at medium setting, obviously you are living in your own world and you only know all those old games, go to PC forum you will look like a fool by saying that :)
@amazon09 LOL someone's got sand in their vagina it seems. You are one sad individual. Tell ya what, build a computer and then you will know the current prices of computer parts. Tell ya what, go ahead and game on your $400 pc while the rest of us enjoy top notch games on our 200-300 360's. I'll enjoy my 1500 custom PC for any PC gaming and programming I do, while you run your $400 pc for word processing and playing HL2 at medium settings. Oh, and if you actually think a 400pc can output better graphics and quality than a PS3 or 360 you again just prove how little you know about current tech. Sorry, again you fail in your insane comments. Do a little research on why it is that current consoles(that have been out for years on end now) can produce high quality graphics at such a small price. You'll actually figure out why it is a PC has to have such high specs to produce the same quality as a Console. But hey, you aren't one for research, that is clear. So I will look forward to your next insane post about how amazing your PS3 was in 08 with is amazing 2 games. And how your 400 pc is just so kick a$$
@Phatjam98 LOL again at your comment, you cant even justify your gormless statement, now you try to change topic, you are the one who dont know the current tech, you said i live in the past??? I talked about resistance 2 and some 08 titles because you said good games only released on PS3 this 2 years, I just tried to prove PS3 had great games since 2008 , i got a hd6950 on PC and a new PS3 slim, Who is living in the past ?? i feel you just simply don't know what is happening in current tech but failed to cover up your childish statement by saying Geforce 9600 was TOP END card few years back, get your facts right. Dont just argue, and one more thing i wish to tell you, you said 200-300 console will perform as good at 800-1200 PC ?? NO!! nowdays a 400$+ PC will be more powerful than both xbox360 and PS3 consoles!! Once again, you fail big time!! You are the one who is living in the past, OH NO,sorry, in fact you dont know anything about the past tech as well !! LOL at you again
@amazon09 Its silly how little you know about PC hardware. But keep talking sparky. You make my case with each post. So put your big boy pants on, and realize your entire opinion that Xbox owners hate their systems because they are excited about the next Xbox is possibly the dumbest thing that has ever been said in these forums... and that is saying allot. Clearly you live in the past and will enjoy living back in 08 for years to come. The rest of us will enjoy new technology as it comes out, along with new games, graphics and physics while you continue to play CS: Source and WoW. I'm done with you, but please do not deprive everyone of your little hilarious gems, your take on tech and society keeps me and all my friends laughing to the point of crying.
@Phatjam98 hey gormless kid, was geforce 9600gt top of line card few years ago ??? Seriously, no...!!! it wasn't !!!!! 8800gt and 8800 ultra were released in nov 06/07 and they are still much faster than your so call top of the line card 9600gt which was released in 08, so it definitely NOT top of the line card even at its prime!!! Never ever!!In fact 9600gt was a cheap trim down version of geforce 8 series card !!! A single hd4850 which was released in 08 will completely destroy a geforce 9600gt, so you are lying again, seriously just stfu, you don;t know anything about pc tech, i will LOL at you again for calling geforce 9600gt top of the line card for pc few years back, LOL
@amazon09 Hey sparky... do some research on computer tech. The GeForce 9600 was the top of the line video card a few years ago. Guess you didn't know that huh? But I dont know anything about current tech right? Seriously, you clearly do not know what you are talking about. Apparently you cannot understand that I am making fun of your backward thinking and desire to stay in the past rather than move forward into the future. But good job proving my point that you do not know what you are talking about with your lack of knowledge of Nvidia products. Good job. Burn on me right? LOL(yup laughing at you again)
@Phatjam98 LOL you are a kid, do i have a 9600 geforce?? no,,,6950 is from ATI, you know nothing about current technology, don't talk to me all these tech, you lose. i never say ps2 was a huge success, did i ?? ps2 "sales" was great but ps2 users wanted ps3 so badly as ps2 graphic and community were so bad we were not satisfied at all, can you differenciate between sales and user satisfaction?? i guess you don't, don't use the word "LOL " too much as you are not funny at all because you know nothing and tried to act cool but fail miserably, LOL
@crazypunk8 You clearly are uninformed. While PC's will always have superior hardware, consoles of this gen and next gen will perform at the level of a high end PC for a fraction of the cost. The reason is the console hardware is made specifically to pump out games. Every resource (mostly) is dedicated to the current game rather than having to manage multiple background programs like a PC does. So yes, a PC can always outperform a console, but the cost difference is huge. Currently a 200-300 console performs at the same level as a 800-1200 PC. Next Gen will cost 500+ but will perform at the same level as a 2k-3k PC at launch. Not only that, Crysis was the last game that really pushed the limits of gaming to where it could only be played on the PC. Let us all know the next time a game comes out that the consoles cant handle.
@amazon09 LOL you live in fantasy land. Tell ya what, when you have some facts to back up your insane opinion that 360 owners hate their system let me know. I love my 360, yet as a tech junkie I can hardly wait for the next version. That is called forward progress. Apparently you could care less about the PS3 because the PS2 was such a huge success? Is that really your argument? Or perhaps you think that tech that came out 7 years ago will outperform tech that comes out now? So the Core 2 Duo must perform the same as the i5 or i7 today? You say you are a PC gamer now, because your PS3 crapped out on you, oh and you mentioned a whole 2 games that are just great on the PS3. So you must be rocking a 9600 GeForce on your PC and you apparently have a whole 2 games for your busted PS3 from 08-09? So you live in the past is what you are telling everyone? Nice, good to know where you are coming from. LOL what a joke you are.
@crazypunk8 consoles are all the same. PCs are not. You can play the same bf3 on a $300 xbox(or much cheaper if it's used) you would play on your super uber bajillion dollar PC.
@crazypunk8 there's no pc or console in this world that can give you a better multiplayer or ai experience than xbox 360. also you have to buy a new graphic card every 2-3yrs if you are a pc gamer.
No, the Wii U is NOT next gen, WRONG. It's playing catch up, and I have no interest in it. Anyway, I could only imagine what a new Gears of War would be like on a U4 engine, dear god....
are you people all retarded? UE4 is basically UE3 with a lil updated things. Also CryEngine 2 and 3 are already Next-Gen and look way better than even UE4 will, also forget next gen consoles, they will be outdated right out of the box. PC today kills a "next gen console" easy because of the extreme CPU's and GPU's in High-End Gaming PC's. Crysis and Crysis 2 on PC are still the best looking games on the planet, and always will be.
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@innocent69 fanboy detected, we are talking about gamers experience and satisfaction not about console wars between microsoft and sony, thank you.
@Phatjam98 are you serious or are you a joker? you are the real fanboy, it is true that xbox360 users like you dont enjoy xbox360 at all and eagerly await new xbox to be released, and ps3 had great games since 2008 such as resistance 2 and motorstorm pacific rift and so on, don't try to find excuses, the fact is you don't enjoy xbox360 and start to look for new gaming system and hope forbetter gaming experience, i am just giving my opinions, i stop gaming on PS3 for the past 18 months as my PS3 fat got YLOD, since then i game on PC, i just got another ps3 slim recently because i know i will have great fun with my ps3, '''""'This means that the Xbox will have yet another jump start on Sony and should move further ahead""""" This is a false statement here, we are talking about the gamers experience, if you think your xbox360 is great and fantastic you wont eagerly await the new xbox to be released, thats what i am trying to say, i feel it is pointless to talk to a fanboy like you. there are some rude and arrogant PC gamers tried to insult console on other website such as youtube, i tried to defend xbox360 as well, so what is the point for calling me a ps3 fanboy?
"...This means that the Xbox will have yet another jump start on Sony and should move FURTHER AHEAD..." Very True :)
@amazon09 LOL you are funny. PS3 owners have been burned for years by Sony and only in the past 2 years have good games begun to come out for that system. The Xbox has had quality games in mass since its launch. Xbox owners have been more than satisfied with the system and only PS3 owners such as yourself have your opinion. You clearly have never had an Xbox or you would know that PS3 has simply copied what they can from XBLive. PS3 is behind the 360 in sales, games released on both systems have largely performed better on the 360. Get over yourself because your opinion is 100% fanboy. Clearly I love the 360, but I can be objective and look at the facts of both systems. The PS3 has maybe a couple more years of life left. The 360 is nearing its peak and is time for a new system. This means that the Xbox will have yet another jump start on Sony and should move further ahead in the console wars. Sony messed up with the PS3, take a look at statements by Sony themselves, developers who jumped ship from Sony and install base then make a rational statement or simply say, you are a huge fanboy.
@neotheinstein no i am not a fanboy, i love xbox360 too, i am just surprised that many xbox users wish to have 3rd gen xbox, is it xbox360 not good enough for you all? i really dont know, this isnt an issue for PS3 users as ps3 games and online environment/community are great, and in fact, current higher end graphic isnt much greater than xbox360 at all. i have hd6950 (slightly upgraded from hd5870) so i know.
I really can't wait to hear about UE4 and it's capabilities,i really hope that they've implemented a Real-time GI solution,that enough can be a game changer,i also really hope they haven't revamped the UI too much,boy i can't believe it's happening,i wasn't expecting this to happen for at least another two years!...But i guess as others pointed out it will take some time before we can get our hands on it...can't wait!
A new Engine is always good news. But it's going to take a while to see games running on this beast, so, for now, I'm happy with Unreal 3, CryEngine 3, Frostbite 2 and the like.
@he_GooBear ue3 uses the same nvidia physics technology cry engine does. It's not about the engine, it's about the game.
I can't wait to see what next gen will look like. I'm expecting them to come out with a new franchise to take advantage of this engine, like GOW did for Unreal Engine 3.
Microsoft failed, i can feel the unhappiness amongst xbox360 fans or users, i thought xbox360 was great too, but it seems not, many of xbox360 users wish to have a new console or some of them call it 3rd gen xbox, most PS3 players included myself do not wish to have a new console at all, PS3 is simply amazing ( except YLOD ), i am just speaking truth, nothing against fanboylism, thnak you :)
@professorXzaver Far from that. The Cell Broadband Engine is capable to deliver twenty something GFlops performance, as it was targeted to be between the CPU and the GPU. As of now the GPUs are capable to deliver a few TFlops so based on this the "next-gen" should be able to bring at least 100 times better performance. But as the tech evolves and how fast it does that, the consoles will be already behind at least one generation in GPU when they will be released. If the rumors are true, and the next Xbox will use a HD 6xxx, than it is much likely that it will deliver 2-3 TFlops performance if it will not be pulled back.
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